Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! - page 109.

dragonmike

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Quote from: P00P135 on January 06, 2018, 12:05:09 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 06:08:53 PM

Quote from: citronick on January 05, 2018, 05:57:59 PM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 05:25:49 PM

One of my friends is getting his hands on a 19-slot mobo... Funny thing is he has no idea how to set up the damn thing.

What's the latest on Windows' support for more than 8 GPUs of the same brand? Would I have to set him up a Linux distro if he wanted to run 19 GPUs on that mobo? Or is 16 doable under Win10? I wasn't recommending that mobo to him due to the major point of failure risk... but hey ho he went for it. Now I can see myself setting it up for him... Cheesy

That board needs 6 x P106 Mining card, as pre-req to work.

See full rig setup by BBT here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M

He did it with Win10 - 19 x GPUs

Does it NEED those P106's though? Can it run 16 cards (8 nvidia and 8 AMD)?

If I remember correctly BBT started with p106's and started adding normal GPU's to max it out instead of the other way around. I would check the latest BIOS/chipset drivers for updates on compatibilty, but 8 normal Nvidia and 8 amd should work fine, or start with 13 AMD and add Nvidia one at a time. The worst part of that board is the crazy loading times and then trying to load OC values after that. Seems more feasible to stick with 8-13 GPU motherboards.

I agree, and that's what I told him. Easier to manage 2-3 smaller mobos than this juggernaught which will probably end up being a massive pain in the ass.

Everyone's jumping onto the mining bandwagon nowadays. Got colleagues at work flocking to me as they hear I'm into crypto. Helped one of them ordering parts. My plumber/electrician has setup a rig and I was walking him through how to get his mined coins out of Suprnova into his Coinomi wallet! Cheesy

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Elder III on January 06, 2018, 12:36:41 AM

Quote from: QuintLeo on January 05, 2018, 11:09:25 PM

btw, this Intel chip flaw thing.... now that changes everything .... will mining rigs be impacted?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-01-05/apple-says-chip-flaw-hits-all-macs-iphones-ipads-video

As I understand it any and every computer with an Intel CPU since the first "core 2" days is affected by it. There are two major security bugs, named "Meltdown" and "Spectre" - meltdown sounds far more serious of a threat, but I'm not an expert on these things by any means.... AMD is supposedly affected by Spectre, whereas Intel (and ARM I think) is affected by both.

The fix for the bug seems to be fairly significant for IO heavy things... hefty losses on 4K SSD writes for example, and for servers or data centers, but so far doesn't look too damaging for most home users, gamers, and probably not for the average miner.

The security risk should be the biggest concern for miners imo... I don't think it will affect mining performance much if at all.

Hopefully someone that knows allot more about these things can shed some more light on it.

as long as your miner has no sensitive info on it (hopefully you dont keep your wallet or banking credentials on it). miners generally, well, mine and that all they should do. BUT network passwords etc may be there, or perhaps exploits will be written later to take more control, as right now all it can do is read cache data.

anyway i have updated my win10 miners with the meltdown patch. along with all other machines we have. BTW havent really noticed any slowdowns.. maybe a *very* bit slower during heavy loads from the ssd on the daily driver (win7 rig) but i might be imagining that as its very slight, if indeed its there at all.

jimmykl

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Coindesk has a good update on the Spectre/Meltdown related to crypto https://www.coindesk.com/meltdown-spectre-cpu-flaws-mean-cryptocurrency/.

If you're not already using a hardware wallet now is a good time to get one. Also apply app and OS patches as soon as vendors release them.

Last of the V8s

legendary

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Be a bank

there are newses and updates re the speculative side channel vulnerabilities from at least nvidia. haven't looked yet for amd sorry
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4611/~/security-bulletin%3A-nvidia-gpu-display-driver-security-updates-for-speculative

naturally this page is covered in javascript lol

One of the main other things to ponder is cloud computing: that abstruse pool you use to mine xxx coin - where are their servers at, and how have they mitigated re spectre/meltdown?

Daaaveee

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 04:30:28 PM

Quote from: Daaaveee on January 05, 2018, 04:20:32 PM

Thanks guys, great help Cheesy

wishing you all a prosperous 2018!

DO NOT BUY THE EVGA 750GQ's!! THEY ARE CRAP!!!!

Seriously, I've rma'd two of them in the space of 2 months. They are not built to sustain high, constant load. The G2's are a lot better but do yourself a favour and AVOID THE GQ!!!!!

OK good to know, I already have one so will see how I get on with that one, but I won't buy another

Considering 1070Tis for the 6 gpu onda board too, so I'd have to pick a different PSU in that case.

Marvell2

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Eth transactional fees are atarting to go up , I dont think the calculators take that into account on solo eth pool i got my weekly block today and it was 5.2 eth! no uncle (uncle rate is about 40 percent now it seens I get one a month too)

I was like wtf , I look at the hash and tx and i see the block contained 222 individual transsactions all paying $6 or so in fees!!

anyway long story short ive been noticing the blocks i have been getting range from 3.1 to 3.3 eth per block never less and sometimes more and with that 2 eth uncle I think just looking at the calculators is costing folks $$

I know nano and flypool claim to share fees but somone would have to prove it to me, I mined at nanopool for the longest and my payouts always matched the calculators never exceeded them

Elder III

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Quote from: citronick on January 05, 2018, 11:20:00 PM

Quote from: QuintLeo on January 05, 2018, 11:09:25 PM

ASUS manual says not more than 13 "non-mining" cards, up to 8 each Nvidia or AMD - but that might have been because they RECOMMEND Windows as an OS and the drivers at the time didn't support more than 8 cards of one brand at a time (I'm not sure how the P106 mining cards get around that limit though).

Oddly enough, their CURRENT online manual seems to indicate that up to 11 AMD cards would work - but it only gives 3 "recommended" configurations and is VERY unclear about actual limits or if recent new BIOS versions have changed anything.

using fullzero's nvOC -- you can use all NVIDIA setup.... but you still need that 6 x P106 .... sigh....

btw, this Intel chip flaw thing.... now that changes everything .... will mining rigs be impacted?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-01-05/apple-says-chip-flaw-hits-all-macs-iphones-ipads-video

As I understand it any and every computer with an Intel CPU since the first "core 2" days is affected by it. There are two major security bugs, named "Meltdown" and "Spectre" - meltdown sounds far more serious of a threat, but I'm not an expert on these things by any means.... AMD is supposedly affected by Spectre, whereas Intel (and ARM I think) is affected by both.

The fix for the bug seems to be fairly significant for IO heavy things... hefty losses on 4K SSD writes for example, and for servers or data centers, but so far doesn't look too damaging for most home users, gamers, and probably not for the average miner.

The security risk should be the biggest concern for miners imo... I don't think it will affect mining performance much if at all.

Hopefully someone that knows allot more about these things can shed some more light on it.

P00P135

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 06:08:53 PM

Quote from: citronick on January 05, 2018, 05:57:59 PM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 05:25:49 PM

One of my friends is getting his hands on a 19-slot mobo... Funny thing is he has no idea how to set up the damn thing.

What's the latest on Windows' support for more than 8 GPUs of the same brand? Would I have to set him up a Linux distro if he wanted to run 19 GPUs on that mobo? Or is 16 doable under Win10? I wasn't recommending that mobo to him due to the major point of failure risk... but hey ho he went for it. Now I can see myself setting it up for him... Cheesy

That board needs 6 x P106 Mining card, as pre-req to work.

See full rig setup by BBT here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M

He did it with Win10 - 19 x GPUs

Does it NEED those P106's though? Can it run 16 cards (8 nvidia and 8 AMD)?

If I remember correctly BBT started with p106's and started adding normal GPU's to max it out instead of the other way around. I would check the latest BIOS/chipset drivers for updates on compatibilty, but 8 normal Nvidia and 8 amd should work fine, or start with 13 AMD and add Nvidia one at a time. The worst part of that board is the crazy loading times and then trying to load OC values after that. Seems more feasible to stick with 8-13 GPU motherboards.

Tidsdilatation

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Hi guys.

Whats ur feeling about nicehash as of after the hack? Is it back to normal? I started to use their service as of today, mostly due to lack of time to research new coin to mine. Just wanted to hear your toughts, since i know atleast phil used it before.

Dont want to invest several weeks into NH and then realize that one cannot withdraw etc.

Thanks.

citronick

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---- winter*juvia -----

Quote from: QuintLeo on January 05, 2018, 11:09:25 PM

ASUS manual says not more than 13 "non-mining" cards, up to 8 each Nvidia or AMD - but that might have been because they RECOMMEND Windows as an OS and the drivers at the time didn't support more than 8 cards of one brand at a time (I'm not sure how the P106 mining cards get around that limit though).

Oddly enough, their CURRENT online manual seems to indicate that up to 11 AMD cards would work - but it only gives 3 "recommended" configurations and is VERY unclear about actual limits or if recent new BIOS versions have changed anything.

using fullzero's nvOC -- you can use all NVIDIA setup.... but you still need that 6 x P106 .... sigh....

btw, this Intel chip flaw thing.... now that changes everything .... will mining rigs be impacted?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-01-05/apple-says-chip-flaw-hits-all-macs-iphones-ipads-video

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: QuintLeo on January 05, 2018, 11:09:25 PM

ASUS manual says not more than 13 "non-mining" cards, up to 8 each Nvidia or AMD - but that might have been because they RECOMMEND Windows as an OS and the drivers at the time didn't support more than 8 cards of one brand at a time (I'm not sure how the P106 mining cards get around that limit though).

Oddly enough, their CURRENT online manual seems to indicate that up to 11 AMD cards would work - but it only gives 3 "recommended" configurations and is VERY unclear about actual limits or if recent new BIOS versions have changed anything.

crap mobo any mobo that pushes or favors mining only cards does no favors to a miner.

Mining only cards are not a miners friend.

QuintLeo

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ASUS manual says not more than 13 "non-mining" cards, up to 8 each Nvidia or AMD - but that might have been because they RECOMMEND Windows as an OS and the drivers at the time didn't support more than 8 cards of one brand at a time (I'm not sure how the P106 mining cards get around that limit though).

Oddly enough, their CURRENT online manual seems to indicate that up to 11 AMD cards would work - but it only gives 3 "recommended" configurations and is VERY unclear about actual limits or if recent new BIOS versions have changed anything.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: GabryRox on January 05, 2018, 08:49:27 PM

Hey everyone... so I am looking at this 1500W Rosewill PSU (originally brought to my attention by Phil) to support a 1070ti build but have what is probably a stupid question...

All of my other PSUs (Rosewill and EVGA) have am 18+10 pin connector for main power. But, looking at this model, it doesn't have any port anywhere near that long. It does appear to have 2 x 14pin slots, which still equals 28 pins total like the other, but just trying to make sure that the other end of this connector will still fit a standard Mobo as I have not seen this configuration before.

yeah it does the wider end fits a standard mobo.

24 pins I thnk. but tokamak fit like normal on the motherboard side

and BTC is pushing 16500-17000

citronick

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 06:08:53 PM

Quote from: citronick on January 05, 2018, 05:57:59 PM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 05:25:49 PM

One of my friends is getting his hands on a 19-slot mobo... Funny thing is he has no idea how to set up the damn thing.

What's the latest on Windows' support for more than 8 GPUs of the same brand? Would I have to set him up a Linux distro if he wanted to run 19 GPUs on that mobo? Or is 16 doable under Win10? I wasn't recommending that mobo to him due to the major point of failure risk... but hey ho he went for it. Now I can see myself setting it up for him... Cheesy

That board needs 6 x P106 Mining card, as pre-req to work.

See full rig setup by BBT here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M

He did it with Win10 - 19 x GPUs

Does it NEED those P106's though? Can it run 16 cards (8 nvidia and 8 AMD)?

Need specifically P106 mining cards according to BBT - its dumb actually - ASUS should have put this clearly before selling this board.

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Hey everyone... so I am looking at this 1500W Rosewill PSU (originally brought to my attention by Phil) to support a 1070ti build but have what is probably a stupid question...

All of my other PSUs (Rosewill and EVGA) have am 18+10 pin connector for main power. But, looking at this model, it doesn't have any port anywhere near that long. It does appear to have 2 x 14pin slots, which still equals 28 pins total like the other, but just trying to make sure that the other end of this connector will still fit a standard Mobo as I have not seen this configuration before.

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Toughit on January 05, 2018, 05:30:34 PM

Its -25 here. The fedex guy left a 1080ti in a box outside for hours. I opened it, now it is covered in moisture.

I don't want to wait hours,so should I hold it in front of the Avalon exhaust for a while?

just let it sit overnight. er inside that is Wink

i dont like taking chances with temp extremes like that. -25 to 140 (Fahrenheit i assume) in a matter of hours scares me unless youre talking milspec. but thats just me.

dragonmike

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Quote from: citronick on January 05, 2018, 05:57:59 PM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 05:25:49 PM

One of my friends is getting his hands on a 19-slot mobo... Funny thing is he has no idea how to set up the damn thing.

What's the latest on Windows' support for more than 8 GPUs of the same brand? Would I have to set him up a Linux distro if he wanted to run 19 GPUs on that mobo? Or is 16 doable under Win10? I wasn't recommending that mobo to him due to the major point of failure risk... but hey ho he went for it. Now I can see myself setting it up for him... Cheesy

That board needs 6 x P106 Mining card, as pre-req to work.

See full rig setup by BBT here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M

He did it with Win10 - 19 x GPUs

Does it NEED those P106's though? Can it run 16 cards (8 nvidia and 8 AMD)?

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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?

Quote from: citronick on January 05, 2018, 05:57:59 PM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 05:25:49 PM

One of my friends is getting his hands on a 19-slot mobo... Funny thing is he has no idea how to set up the damn thing.

What's the latest on Windows' support for more than 8 GPUs of the same brand? Would I have to set him up a Linux distro if he wanted to run 19 GPUs on that mobo? Or is 16 doable under Win10? I wasn't recommending that mobo to him due to the major point of failure risk... but hey ho he went for it. Now I can see myself setting it up for him... Cheesy

That board needs 6 x P106 Mining card, as pre-req to work.

See full rig setup by BBT here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M

He did it with Win10 - 19 x GPUs

Where do you source P106 cards? What is their equivalent? I haven't read much on them, but it seems they are becoming pretty prevalent..... I have this V1.0 D8P board, and I plan to use windows [hopefully]; so having two different types of devices may work for me being able to populate all 12 PCIE slots.

citronick

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 05, 2018, 05:25:49 PM

One of my friends is getting his hands on a 19-slot mobo... Funny thing is he has no idea how to set up the damn thing.

What's the latest on Windows' support for more than 8 GPUs of the same brand? Would I have to set him up a Linux distro if he wanted to run 19 GPUs on that mobo? Or is 16 doable under Win10? I wasn't recommending that mobo to him due to the major point of failure risk... but hey ho he went for it. Now I can see myself setting it up for him... Cheesy

That board needs 6 x P106 Mining card, as pre-req to work.

See full rig setup by BBT here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M

He did it with Win10 - 19 x GPUs

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: Toughit on January 05, 2018, 05:30:34 PM

Its -25 here. The fedex guy left a 1080ti in a box outside for hours. I opened it, now it is covered in moisture.

I don't want to wait hours,so should I hold it in front of the Avalon exhaust for a while?

yeah but at a distance then move it closer

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