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legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 21, 2018, 09:44:55 PM
I mine zec to btc

I hold a little btc 0.5-0.7   not that little I guess

A few ltc

mostly cash cash cash at this time.

I am waiting for a buying opportunity in newer gear.

full member
Activity: 284
Merit: 102
February 21, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
also i don't know there is much chatter in this thread over ZCL/BTCP.  Anyone taking a gamble on the ZCL -> BTCP pump?
full member
Activity: 284
Merit: 102
February 21, 2018, 08:12:22 PM
nuff GPUs... lets talk Asics.

My group has a sizable Scrypt and X11 ASICS farm hosted overseas.

With dwindling revenues in Scrypt and X11 algos, especially X11, we had to make a decision on what to do with the farm.

The farm is about 70% ROI, consisting of Innosilicon A4s, Bitmain L3+s and D3s.

Total hash power around 11 GHs Scrypt and 350 GHs X11.

Keep or sell off the farm?

Conclusion: Keep the farm alive for special project, as long as the power stays cheap (ie. cheap Canada hydro power)

Special project:

Acquire LTC, ETC, RDD, XVG and VTC for long term.

Using prohashing.com, a Scrypt and X11 multi-algo pool, we portioned a fixed % for these 5 coins (to be auto-exchanged)

There are a number of other coins that prohashing can auto-exchange to, depending on your preference.

Too bad prohashing.com only supports Scrypt and X11 mining.

For more algos & coin pools, MPH is a good choice but it allows only 1 coin type to auto exchange.

you are looking to get some ETC for long term hold?  I like it.  what have you heard with ETC that makes you want to keep long term
VTC seems like it was pretty popular around here at one point.
RDD - i have tlook look into this one.
XVG - was a massive pumper earlier, i have some.  you see a bright future for this one?


I respect your opinion a lot, always like to see why you like certain coins, etc.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
February 21, 2018, 06:22:16 PM
@Romi and @Tadeus
It's a Sapphire rx470 reference, with blower. So, no dual bios, and no way to see inside without removing the blower Sad

After looking at mine, they DO have dual BIOS - though the switch is not real obvious and tiny.





I wish it would be the same for me, but I triple checked and found nothing.
Maybe different batch from yours ?
Would you be kind enough to take a picture ?

Even better: Click for some google search results
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
February 21, 2018, 05:18:29 PM
@Romi and @Tadeus
It's a Sapphire rx470 reference, with blower. So, no dual bios, and no way to see inside without removing the blower Sad

After looking at mine, they DO have dual BIOS - though the switch is not real obvious and tiny.





I wish it would be the same for me, but I triple checked and found nothing.
Maybe different batch from yours ?
Would you be kind enough to take a picture ?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
February 21, 2018, 03:55:57 PM
@Romi and @Tadeus
It's a Sapphire rx470 reference, with blower. So, no dual bios, and no way to see inside without removing the blower Sad

After looking at mine, they DO have dual BIOS - though the switch is not real obvious and tiny.



full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 233
February 21, 2018, 01:53:01 PM
Nvidia = trouble free.

I want to do 6 card  1080ti hybrid   only

3 year warranty  I can crank up and down power  almost zero work


these
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card

or these

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6598-KR


run smos  

Im with you on this bud, ever since i went all watercooled on every gpu i mine with except my test rig... my average hashrate increase across all the rigs already nearly payed for all the work it took to convert them all to water... the new waterpump setup im running is showing to be super stable and i was actually able to add a variac to reduce the waterpump down to about 40% of the output it was running at previously and still have plenty of overflow flooding the supply side of the system.... temps down here have been up to 89-90F during the peak of the day already and my gpu temps are still peaking at 57c on the loop

variac = great gear  I used them when I built kit audio amps.

Prebuilt Waterblock from evga and msi or corsair are far better  then any air cooled  1080tis.

 Long warranty 3 years and   higher hashing = make the extra cost back easy peasy.  they are quiet.  and you can do 130 to 210 watts on a card    which makes them  far more efficient


Hot in NJ so


look here

set to 175 watts

https://i.imgur.com/hC9Ljxw.png


set to 140 watts


 https://i.imgur.com/RSaozeN.png

Ya i agree with ya on that, ive been contemplating going a few hybrids... just been very happy with the normal air cards with universal cpu waterblocks.... the hottest ive seen the VRAM and PWR modules on the PCB's is 73c so far.. keeping an eye on them via thermal gun to see if i need to add a small amount of cooling to them, currently i have the naked cards with universal $13 copper CPU waterblocks attached to them.

To be honest with the lack of heat around the rigs due to the cooling being transferred outside, i wouldn't be shocked if you could place hundreds of these rigs in a single room with a small window a/c to maintain the room to around 80f or something cooler if you had to... the amount of heat in my rig room has reduced by like 90%

Example: just glancing at one of my rigs...
im averaging 939.31 MH on skein @ 151watts only on asus turbo 1080ti, before to get into the 930's i was in the 240+watt range
hero member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 556
February 21, 2018, 01:19:42 PM
Ah the joy of having 27 nvidia 1080ti's

and only 1 rx560

fuck bios flashing.

Proud to say never did a one.

Agreed 100%

My group's AMD farm was tweaked for ETH (2015-2016) and it was a bloody nightmare that BIOS flashing.

If I could turn back time, I would have used 1060s and 1070s any day.

No BIOS flashing needed, impressive MHs, watts and temps well under controlled.

That premium on NVIDIA cards vs AMD - is worth it.

Apart from Vega cards, all cards acquired since last year were all NVIDIA.

@R0mi - I had to flash over 300 x GPUs (470s, 480s) - it was no picnic.
I also had to do a crash course Linux because the farm went 100% SMOS and ditched Windoze.
Thanks to kind souls out there, I managed to write a script that will flash batches of GPUs at a time, in Linux.
Disagree 100%.
Yes, my RX 570's were a pain to flash and setup... A YEAR AGO. But that's because of a bunch of different issues. Immature drivers. Immature mobo BIOS. Little knowledge about the best mem timings to use... You guys need to put things into perspective here. Back then you were able to extract 29Mh/s out of a GPU that cost less than $200 BECAUSE AMD ALLOWED YOU TO DO IT. Try to get that out of any nVidia card at that price!

Today, not only are all driver and bios issues sorted, timings are widely available. You can get your AMD rig flashed, up and mining in no time. If there is stock building up in RX570/580 at less than $350 they are an extremely compelling option.

Dont get me wrong - the AMD farm is still alive and well - well optimised, undervolted and stable with the custom BIOS. Still the workhorse in the farm doing UBQ and XMR. Apart from some GPUs with failing fans, the farm is steady as a rock.

However.... If I were to do everything again, I will choose NVIDIA purely for speed to deployment, and probably worth more after sales because the BIOS are intact and seems components better quality. Its just preference my friend.
I hear you. Scale does add a factor to consider. However I believe the whole setting up of AMD cards is now a lot easier than it was last year due to the reasons I mentioned above.

Would I have setup a whole farms of AMD cards last year knowing what had to be done to get it running? Hell no.
Would I today? Yup. Certainly.
sr. member
Activity: 464
Merit: 301
February 21, 2018, 11:02:12 AM
So you lower the watts  7 x 35 =  245 watts  to manage heat  and drop hash  from 4750 to 4250


so 245 watts  gives 500 hash  which is  only 2.04 sols  per watt
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 21, 2018, 11:00:06 AM
Nvidia = trouble free.

I want to do 6 card  1080ti hybrid   only

3 year warranty  I can crank up and down power  almost zero work


these
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card

or these

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6598-KR


run smos 

Im with you on this bud, ever since i went all watercooled on every gpu i mine with except my test rig... my average hashrate increase across all the rigs already nearly payed for all the work it took to convert them all to water... the new waterpump setup im running is showing to be super stable and i was actually able to add a variac to reduce the waterpump down to about 40% of the output it was running at previously and still have plenty of overflow flooding the supply side of the system.... temps down here have been up to 89-90F during the peak of the day already and my gpu temps are still peaking at 57c on the loop

variac = great gear  I used them when I built kit audio amps.

Prebuilt Waterblock from evga and msi or corsair are far better  then any air cooled  1080tis.

 Long warranty 3 years and   higher hashing = make the extra cost back easy peasy.  they are quiet.  and you can do 130 to 210 watts on a card    which makes them  far more efficient


Hot in NJ so


look here

set to 175 watts

https://i.imgur.com/hC9Ljxw.png


set to 140 watts


 https://i.imgur.com/RSaozeN.png
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
February 21, 2018, 09:36:13 AM
Ah the joy of having 27 nvidia 1080ti's

and only 1 rx560

fuck bios flashing.

Proud to say never did a one.

Agreed 100%

My group's AMD farm was tweaked for ETH (2015-2016) and it was a bloody nightmare that BIOS flashing.

If I could turn back time, I would have used 1060s and 1070s any day.

No BIOS flashing needed, impressive MHs, watts and temps well under controlled.

That premium on NVIDIA cards vs AMD - is worth it.

Apart from Vega cards, all cards acquired since last year were all NVIDIA.

@R0mi - I had to flash over 300 x GPUs (470s, 480s) - it was no picnic.
I also had to do a crash course Linux because the farm went 100% SMOS and ditched Windoze.
Thanks to kind souls out there, I managed to write a script that will flash batches of GPUs at a time, in Linux.
Disagree 100%.
Yes, my RX 570's were a pain to flash and setup... A YEAR AGO. But that's because of a bunch of different issues. Immature drivers. Immature mobo BIOS. Little knowledge about the best mem timings to use... You guys need to put things into perspective here. Back then you were able to extract 29Mh/s out of a GPU that cost less than $200 BECAUSE AMD ALLOWED YOU TO DO IT. Try to get that out of any nVidia card at that price!

Today, not only are all driver and bios issues sorted, timings are widely available. You can get your AMD rig flashed, up and mining in no time. If there is stock building up in RX570/580 at less than $350 they are an extremely compelling option.

Dont get me wrong - the AMD farm is still alive and well - well optimised, undervolted and stable with the custom BIOS. Still the workhorse in the farm doing UBQ and XMR. Apart from some GPUs with failing fans, the farm is steady as a rock.

However.... If I were to do everything again, I will choose NVIDIA purely for speed to deployment, and probably worth more after sales because the BIOS are intact and seems components better quality. Its just preference my friend.
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 233
February 21, 2018, 08:33:55 AM
Nvidia = trouble free.

I want to do 6 card  1080ti hybrid   only

3 year warranty  I can crank up and down power  almost zero work


these
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card

or these

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6598-KR


run smos 

Im with you on this bud, ever since i went all watercooled on every gpu i mine with except my test rig... my average hashrate increase across all the rigs already nearly payed for all the work it took to convert them all to water... the new waterpump setup im running is showing to be super stable and i was actually able to add a variac to reduce the waterpump down to about 40% of the output it was running at previously and still have plenty of overflow flooding the supply side of the system.... temps down here have been up to 89-90F during the peak of the day already and my gpu temps are still peaking at 57c on the loop
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 233
February 21, 2018, 08:26:06 AM
nuff GPUs... lets talk Asics.

My group has a sizable Scrypt and X11 ASICS farm hosted overseas.

With dwindling revenues in Scrypt and X11 algos, especially X11, we had to make a decision on what to do with the farm.

The farm is about 70% ROI, consisting of Innosilicon A4s, Bitmain L3+s and D3s.

Total hash power around 11 GHs Scrypt and 350 GHs X11.

Keep or sell off the farm?

Conclusion: Keep the farm alive for special project, as long as the power stays cheap (ie. cheap Canada hydro power)

Special project:

Acquire LTC, ETC, RDD, XVG and VTC for long term.

Using prohashing.com, a Scrypt and X11 multi-algo pool, we portioned a fixed % for these 5 coins (to be auto-exchanged)

There are a number of other coins that prohashing can auto-exchange to, depending on your preference.

Too bad prohashing.com only supports Scrypt and X11 mining.

For more algos & coin pools, MPH is a good choice but it allows only 1 coin type to auto exchange.

If you know anyone that is good at computer software have them write you a sell-bot...

I use my old Gunbot 3 exchange subscription to auto sell, i mine all my coins directly except for when nicehash was more profitable (recently removed them temp), but i have the Gunbot setup in Panic Sell mode, so every 60 seconds it checks the exchange for any coins on the pairs i mine directly, if it sees any it sell them within seconds of showing on the exchange. I offset the profit factor in awesome miner based on how easy it is to transfer the coins...

example, dgb since the coins are very cheap, i get a lot per block while mining, so i literally transfer after each block and it eats up about 1% of the profits from all the transfers paying the transfer fees, so i offset the profit factor in awesome miner so it only basis that coin to mine based on 99% of the current profit price... others like zec, which i get much less and the transfers eat up more of the profits, i only after xx amount accumulated i have it transfered to the exchange for sell off, so i tracked this and i found i was loosing between 3-7% in value on the coins between market changes and delay to send coins for selloff, so i set the profit margin at 93%.....

Then recently i went a step further and tracked the wattage each coin was drawing from the wall on the rigs, i found a 12% different between the most efficient coin vs the least efficient coin, so i setup the power tracking portion of profit switching on awesome miner, i found after setting this up... i went from mining mostly skein and blake2s to now most of my coins fall under phi and xevan after taking into account the power draw
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 21, 2018, 08:00:13 AM
Ah the joy of having 27 nvidia 1080ti's

and only 1 rx560

fuck bios flashing.

Proud to say never did a one.

Agreed 100%

My group's AMD farm was tweaked for ETH (2015-2016) and it was a bloody nightmare that BIOS flashing.

If I could turn back time, I would have used 1060s and 1070s any day.

No BIOS flashing needed, impressive MHs, watts and temps well under controlled.

That premium on NVIDIA cards vs AMD - is worth it.

Apart from Vega cards, all cards acquired since last year were all NVIDIA.

@R0mi - I had to flash over 300 x GPUs (470s, 480s) - it was no picnic.
I also had to do a crash course Linux because the farm went 100% SMOS and ditched Windoze.
Thanks to kind souls out there, I managed to write a script that will flash batches of GPUs at a time, in Linux.
Disagree 100%.
Yes, my RX 570's were a pain to flash and setup... A YEAR AGO. But that's because of a bunch of different issues. Immature drivers. Immature mobo BIOS. Little knowledge about the best mem timings to use... You guys need to put things into perspective here. Back then you were able to extract 29Mh/s out of a GPU that cost less than $200 BECAUSE AMD ALLOWED YOU TO DO IT. Try to get that out of any nVidia card at that price!

Today, not only are all driver and bios issues sorted, timings are widely available. You can get your AMD rig flashed, up and mining in no time. If there is stock building up in RX570/580 at less than $350 they are an extremely compelling option.

Remember  we are allowed to disagree.
If you made money  your way cool.
and this I will say amd cards have dropped in price  finding them at 300-350 is now possible.

Finding a new  nvidia 1080 ti under 900 = hard
hero member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 556
February 21, 2018, 06:26:15 AM
Ah the joy of having 27 nvidia 1080ti's

and only 1 rx560

fuck bios flashing.

Proud to say never did a one.

Agreed 100%

My group's AMD farm was tweaked for ETH (2015-2016) and it was a bloody nightmare that BIOS flashing.

If I could turn back time, I would have used 1060s and 1070s any day.

No BIOS flashing needed, impressive MHs, watts and temps well under controlled.

That premium on NVIDIA cards vs AMD - is worth it.

Apart from Vega cards, all cards acquired since last year were all NVIDIA.

@R0mi - I had to flash over 300 x GPUs (470s, 480s) - it was no picnic.
I also had to do a crash course Linux because the farm went 100% SMOS and ditched Windoze.
Thanks to kind souls out there, I managed to write a script that will flash batches of GPUs at a time, in Linux.
Disagree 100%.
Yes, my RX 570's were a pain to flash and setup... A YEAR AGO. But that's because of a bunch of different issues. Immature drivers. Immature mobo BIOS. Little knowledge about the best mem timings to use... You guys need to put things into perspective here. Back then you were able to extract 29Mh/s out of a GPU that cost less than $200 BECAUSE AMD ALLOWED YOU TO DO IT. Try to get that out of any nVidia card at that price!

Today, not only are all driver and bios issues sorted, timings are widely available. You can get your AMD rig flashed, up and mining in no time. If there is stock building up in RX570/580 at less than $350 they are an extremely compelling option.
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
February 21, 2018, 04:38:17 AM
@Romi and @Tadeus
It's a Sapphire rx470 reference, with blower. So, no dual bios, and no way to see inside without removing the blower Sad
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
February 20, 2018, 08:44:52 PM
nuff GPUs... lets talk Asics.

My group has a sizable Scrypt and X11 ASICS farm hosted overseas.

With dwindling revenues in Scrypt and X11 algos, especially X11, we had to make a decision on what to do with the farm.

The farm is about 70% ROI, consisting of Innosilicon A4s, Bitmain L3+s and D3s.

Total hash power around 11 GHs Scrypt and 350 GHs X11.

Keep or sell off the farm?

Conclusion: Keep the farm alive for special project, as long as the power stays cheap (ie. cheap Canada hydro power)

Special project:

Acquire LTC, ETC, RDD, XVG and VTC for long term.

Using prohashing.com, a Scrypt and X11 multi-algo pool, we portioned a fixed % for these 5 coins (to be auto-exchanged)

There are a number of other coins that prohashing can auto-exchange to, depending on your preference.

Too bad prohashing.com only supports Scrypt and X11 mining.

For more algos & coin pools, MPH is a good choice but it allows only 1 coin type to auto exchange.

Well, if you change your mind let me know. I have a few rigs in Labrador and just sent 2 more A7 rigs there today ....and am looking for a couple Scrypt rigs. I wouldn't have any issue buying rigs hosted by either Cryptoboreas or Great North Data.

Given up on the D3s.... but the L3+ and A4s are worth keeping... new Asics are very expensive now, and the scalpers are making things worse.
HGS
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
February 20, 2018, 08:24:53 PM
nuff GPUs... lets talk Asics.

My group has a sizable Scrypt and X11 ASICS farm hosted overseas.

With dwindling revenues in Scrypt and X11 algos, especially X11, we had to make a decision on what to do with the farm.

The farm is about 70% ROI, consisting of Innosilicon A4s, Bitmain L3+s and D3s.

Total hash power around 11 GHs Scrypt and 350 GHs X11.

Keep or sell off the farm?

Conclusion: Keep the farm alive for special project, as long as the power stays cheap (ie. cheap Canada hydro power)

Special project:

Acquire LTC, ETC, RDD, XVG and VTC for long term.

Using prohashing.com, a Scrypt and X11 multi-algo pool, we portioned a fixed % for these 5 coins (to be auto-exchanged)

There are a number of other coins that prohashing can auto-exchange to, depending on your preference.

Too bad prohashing.com only supports Scrypt and X11 mining.

For more algos & coin pools, MPH is a good choice but it allows only 1 coin type to auto exchange.

Well, if you change your mind let me know. I have a few rigs in Labrador and just sent 2 more A7 rigs there today ....and am looking for a couple Scrypt rigs. I wouldn't have any issue buying rigs hosted by either Cryptoboreas or Great North Data.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
February 20, 2018, 07:55:29 PM
nuff GPUs... lets talk Asics.

My group has a sizable Scrypt and X11 ASICS farm hosted overseas.

With dwindling revenues in Scrypt and X11 algos, especially X11, we had to make a decision on what to do with the farm.

The farm is about 70% ROI, consisting of Innosilicon A4s, Bitmain L3+s and D3s.

Total hash power around 11 GHs Scrypt and 350 GHs X11.

Keep or sell off the farm?

Conclusion: Keep the farm alive for special project, as long as the power stays cheap (ie. cheap Canada hydro power)

Special project:

Acquire LTC, ETC, RDD, XVG and VTC for long term.

Using prohashing.com, a Scrypt and X11 multi-algo pool, we portioned a fixed % for these 5 coins (to be auto-exchanged)

There are a number of other coins that prohashing can auto-exchange to, depending on your preference.

Too bad prohashing.com only supports Scrypt and X11 mining.

For more algos & coin pools, MPH is a good choice but it allows only 1 coin type to auto exchange.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 20, 2018, 07:41:25 PM
Nvidia = trouble free.

I want to do 6 card  1080ti hybrid   only

3 year warranty  I can crank up and down power  almost zero work


these
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card

or these

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6598-KR


run smos 
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