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February 26, 2018, 09:52:00 AM


Which pool do you use?


I use burst cryptoguru 50-50 pool. For wallet Qbundle, I run a local node as the online wallets never work for me. It gets corrupted once a week and need to resync the blockchain, so I just sync overnight if I want transfer the next day. Not very convenient.
sr. member
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February 26, 2018, 09:38:45 AM

I know you said i7 is better than Threadrippers, but I already have about 20 Rayzen 1700x's do you think those are good enough to plot efficiently?


Most of my drives got plotted on my Ryzen 1700 gaming machine - usually while doing other stuff but NOT high end gaming on it.



Yes Ryzen 1700 work too. Both ryzen 1700 and i7 8700 do about 20k nounce/min plotting. But i7 do not need a gpu, abit cheaper.

For pools I use burst.cryptoguru 50-50 pool. Seems fine and payouts are coming daily.

I'm also exploring internal HDD solutions using cases from alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/huge-storage-4u-rack-36-bays_60604635903.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.33bc1a1ewtr7mk

36 bay 4U server, one case, 36x 8tb drives. One case, one i7 8700 system and call it a day. Trust me, dealing with a hundred usb cables and a dozen usb hubs is like dealing with risers lol. If it costs 5-10% more but all all drives are internal via SAS at full read/write speeds and save a little more electricity it is worth it. Those usb hubs and power sockets costs add up.


Assume I can get this case for 500 USD shipped, add a $80 SAS card, it means 580/36 = $16.1 to connect each drive. Currently I use a $70pdu and $60 usb hub for 11 drives. I also save a ton of space, and that shelf is money too.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 26, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
Well I will not do the burst  looks lie quite a bit of work.

What is new on my end.

1 Evga  hybrid  1080 ti arrives  today along with a cpu waterblock as a bundle deal

That will bring me to  14 1080ti waterblocks

1 Hp Omen  pc with 2 1080tis shipped  today

That will get me to 3 of them  all with 2x 1080tis

So

14 1080ti water blocks
  6 1080 ti's  in omen pcs
  2 1080 tis in a 2 card pc build
  2 1080 tis in a 2 card open build -------- asus tubos one with a fan mod
  2 1080 tis in a 2 card open build -------- msi   aero    
  1  1080 ti zotac mini

27  1080tis  

and the biggest gpu miner ever  a loud mofo is due on tues  march the 6th !

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31009451

A slick polished review done in a data center environment

https://www.servethehome.com/ethereal-capital-16x-gpu-p106-100-x16-professional-mining-rig-review/


not sure if I get this version with 2400 watt delta


Not sure if he sends this version with backplane for psus

"We have recently completed development of the 'Power Backplane' which will allow up to 5 x 1200/1500W Common Slot PSU's to be combined into a single power feed.  This is to support up to 16 x P102-100's, or higher wattage GPU's (300W TDP each) once they become available."


legendary
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February 25, 2018, 02:17:24 PM
For those mining Burst right now, how is the wallet as far as stability goes? I beat my head against the wall for a few weeks last spring trying to get Burst working. My main issues were the wallet, with pools being rather wonky as well. Thankfully I got an excellent deal on the few HDDs I bought and was able to break even when reselling them.

I never got the actual wallet to work, though I managed to get the "wallet server" working SOMEHOW at some point, and just access it with Chrome.

I THINK their wallet is coded specifically for Internet Explorer, from what I remember of the issues I had with TRYING to get it to work.


Pools - have been an issue for several months, lots of DDOSing going around, so I ended up reverting to solo mining the last few months.
Have any pools gotten STABLE in the last couple months?

legendary
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February 25, 2018, 02:14:49 PM


This $150 drive works: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-STEB8000100/dp/B01HAPGEIE/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519479080&sr=1-3&keywords=8tb

Or wait for $160 WD easystores, which has 2 year warranty. The seagates only 1 year warranty.


For cpu once plotted it's already optimized.

The Seagate Expansion is typically one of their standard "compute" drives, the Archive external uses one of their standard Archive drives - BOTH work fine with BURST mining and tend to be the lowest price per GB most of the time.


Not all CPU plotters also optimize - I found that out the HARD way early on.
I'm not sure if ANY of the GPU plotters also optimize as I never got one to work.

Which pool do you use?
legendary
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February 25, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
Which mobo are you using? Any rig pics? Smiley

My Burst rig consists of 5 Supermicro 846 chassis' which hold 24 disks each.  The master one has a Supermicro X10DRi in it and the 4 slave chassis's just have a small power control board to power on the PSU's.  The fans are all connected to the SAS2 backplanes.

Master chassis internals:

I'm just running 2 16GB DDR4 DIMMs per CPU, so I'm only using 2 of the 4 channels.

There's one LSI 9211-8i HBA with 4x6Gpbs lanes connected to the internal SAS2 expander.  And there are 3 LSI 9200-8e HBA's which each provide 2 4x6Gbps SFF-8088 connectors for connecting external chassis. So I can have a total of 6 external chassis connected at once without resorting to any daisy chaining.  The 5th card on the far right is an Intel X520 dual 10Gb NIC connecting the server to my 10 Gb switch.  There are plenty of PCIe lanes to go around, so each card has 8 at its disposal, so no bottlenecks anywhere from an I/O perspective.

Between the 4 HBA's, I have a total bandwidth of 4x8x6Gbps = 192 Gpbs.  So my theoretical throughput when reading and writing is 24,000 MB/s.  Smiley


The 2U 12 bay server at the top of the stack is a dedicated plotting rig atm.  It has a single E5-2683 v3 in it and can do about 50,000 nonces/min.  Below that is my media server, which has 24 6TB drives in it arranged as a RAID60 configured as 2 x 12 disk RAID6 arrays.  It is also spotting a 2683 v3 to handle transcoding needs for media clients.

I'm a bit suprised you don't just break down and put together a couple Backblaze boxes.

8-O

Supermicro makes good gear but they tend to be pri$$$$$ey - not so bad if you can find them used sometimes though.

legendary
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February 25, 2018, 02:09:57 PM

I know you said i7 is better than Threadrippers, but I already have about 20 Rayzen 1700x's do you think those are good enough to plot efficiently?


Most of my drives got plotted on my Ryzen 1700 gaming machine - usually while doing other stuff but NOT high end gaming on it.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 25, 2018, 09:51:58 AM
I must have clicked lock on this last Night sorry about that.


here is a link to a new thread on a custom 16 gpu industrial style miner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31009451

I will have one in the house soon.
sr. member
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February 24, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
For those mining Burst right now, how is the wallet as far as stability goes? I beat my head against the wall for a few weeks last spring trying to get Burst working. My main issues were the wallet, with pools being rather wonky as well. Thankfully I got an excellent deal on the few HDDs I bought and was able to break even when reselling them.
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February 24, 2018, 05:28:15 PM
Eventually some end up on btfnx wallets like this at the bottom

The rest is too many transfers out through dummy adresses in and out, so it takes lot of time
to track. I guess that is the idea Smiley

https://blockchain.info/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g

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February 24, 2018, 02:12:46 PM

 Quite a bit earned via mining, lots earned via pool fees, and likely a couple hundred thousand or more of miners sold at probably $500-$1000 average profit EACH.

 Though I have to wonder if that "up to 4 billion" figure wasn't more of a gross sales/gross income figure.

for a good perspective disney who makes all the marvel movies and a ton of kid animation flicks too
makes around 5billion a year too
legendary
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Be a bank
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 24, 2018, 01:46:35 PM

4 billion


so  45,000 x 20,000 = ?

900,000,000  they did that in capital gains  last year


but  45,000 x 10,000 = 450,000,000  loss  since the peak 20,000 a coin

this happens   to be  a wallet they have that I know  exists.

I paid to here

1DmvT9hn53DtAMenDgt4onY4UfBYqUz9jU

they sent it here

https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V

that wallet has received 274,000 coins in btc


now here is some bch info

1KSWbLJWR9EbF2nk4kmBJWzQkpGCaWADap

bitcoincash:qr9y2hvp7deyt3734tezyzjp8lcqur90sv0arw26wt


and I do not know how to track past that and follow it
legendary
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February 24, 2018, 01:41:40 PM

 Quite a bit earned via mining, lots earned via pool fees, and likely a couple hundred thousand or more of miners sold at probably $500-$1000 average profit EACH.

 Though I have to wonder if that "up to 4 billion" figure wasn't more of a gross sales/gross income figure.
legendary
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February 24, 2018, 01:39:15 PM
As long as you don't duplicate nonce ranges, you can plot on as many machines as you want to.
BURST mining on the CPU uses very little CPU power most of the time, it works fine on my 5 card rigs with no noticeable impact on the GPUs doing their mining.

Returns though are very low, and the pools issue has been a major pain for a few months now - seems like someone(s) have it in for BURST and have been DDoSing the pools right left up down and sideways.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 24, 2018, 01:36:29 PM

4 billion


so  45,000 x 20,000 = ?

900,000,000  they did that in capital gains  last year


but  45,000 x 10,000 = 450,000,000  loss  since the peak 20,000 a coin

this happens   to be  a wallet they have that I know  exists.
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February 24, 2018, 12:56:09 PM
I'm also wondering can I plot on the 20 different PC's then when they are done plotting, add the drives to 1 actual machine I plan mining on, or is it the PC that you pot the drive on, you have to mine on?

I do that all the time, no problem.  Just make sure to use the same ID for all the plots, and that the nonces don't overlap between plots.

I just run a script similar the the one below on any computer where the target drives exists:

Code:
@setlocal
@cd /d %~dp0
start "" /belownormal "C:\Xplotter_AVX2\XPlotter_avx2.exe" -id 2597790682173387743 -sn 10600000001 -n 0 -t 52 -path c:\Burst\plot106 -mem 16G
start "" /belownormal "C:\Xplotter_AVX2\XPlotter_avx2.exe" -id 2597790682173387743 -sn 10700000001 -n 0 -t 52 -path c:\Burst\plot107 -mem 16G
@pause

-id - your numeric account id
-sn - start nounce of the plot
-n - end nounce.  Set it to 0 to fill the disk
-t - CPU treads to use
-path - target drive
-mem - amount of memory to use.  Unlike -t, -mem is allocated to each plotter instance, so the sum of them must be less than your total system RAM

You would of course want to change the -id value to whatever your's is, and the -t thread count and memory to your hardware.  I like to leave at least a couple of threads free for other stuff.
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February 24, 2018, 12:44:32 PM
Just sold a bunch of 480/470s for an average of $370 each. Left with 6 polaris cards for sale (let me know if interested). They are 5x sapphire pulse 570 4gb and 1x 580 8 gb HIS. They were used since last May in a dust free environment, undervolted to 875mv.

GPUs: https://ibb.co/eqi0xc
Box: https://ibb.co/nvzjOH

I stopped gpu expansion for now, it's too difficult to find them at a good price. Even my early jan order of 1070tis from a local supplier has yet to arrive. Right now I'm focused on HDD mining. Takes 16 months to payback HDD mining now, but with new proof of capacity coins coming I believe it's viable. Worst case scenario the $150 8tb drives can be liquidated for $120. HDD is low returns, but low value at risk. Unlike GPUs, where a $400 1060 6gb can drop to $150 in value if things go south.

Took 3 weeks and I have 300tb online. Looks like another 6 weeks to get the full 1pb running. An Rx480 it takes 1 day to get 1 drive plotted and optimized. 1950x can do 2 per day.

For anyone who's interested to do HDD, I recommend NOT going for a threadripper build. Go i7 8700 build instead, no gpu needed. Add another rig when needed. The rig cost per drive is similar, total compute power for plotting is similar too. Also don't be like me, connecting 10 drives per usb 3.0 hub. There's new miner software that can scan a 8tb drive in 17 seconds now, limit to 5 drives to prevent read bottlenecks.

Last month I returned 300TB (50 USB drives) from everyone saying what a pita it would be... thinking maybe it's time to reorder them just to play around.


I know you said i7 is better than Threadrippers, but I already have about 20 Rayzen 1700x's do you think those are good enough to plot efficiently?

I'm also wondering can I plot on the 20 different PC's then when they are done plotting, add the drives to 1 actual machine I plan mining on, or is it the PC that you pot the drive on, you have to mine on?


Super interesting stuff.
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February 24, 2018, 10:54:40 AM

 I have so much gear buying mobos are not something I need to do.

I need to explain better  I have these 3 pc's

I can put 4x 8tb  hdds in them.
that gives me 96tb for hdd mining
I still want the gpus in them to mine zec

and the cpus to run the hdd mining



In your case you would plot the 4 drives using CPU and read them using CPU. The gpu will not be involved in the hdd mining process.
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