Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 224. (Read 880816 times)

OMG  My heart screams for you bro - I met [email protected] and at that time in November I was under the impression that they were like 10 days out in November.  That is just psycho and scary as shit.  I would've totally demanded the btc refund they're supposed to keep a margin available in btc to be able to issue out refunds.  If they're issuing checks, then they are immediately cashing out btc - if they offerred the btc refund which I believe I recall reading that they would, they should honor it.  Imean shit that's hardcore fucked off - makes BFL seem like a lesser evil to a degree. 

Is the icedrill thing true? That's cool for me with my bitfunder shares that I can no longer use, but bad for the world at large.

Welcome to Scamerica!!!   

+10   that's EXACTLY what happend...

hu hu hu , bfl is bfl  ..... i dont know who's the worst... bfl or scamfast??  

look... they promised a delivering of their monarch for the end of the year?? look waht they mail-sent yesterday:  



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-butterfly-labs-ceo-25-million-usd-mail-fraud-a-concise-summary-of-evidence-110805

I 100% agree.  IMO the original ToS and Simon's posts make those who paid in BTC huuuggge liabilities.   My guess is they've been instructed to drop those customers asap. Later customers would have agreed to a ToS that places much less liability on HF's books. Also,  It's entirely possible that their yield was garbage and/or that the wafer received in Nov was just the eng run and everyone is now waiting on a full run from the fab.

no icedrill is not icebreaker, who must be santy claus because he disappeared right on Christmas.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfunder-icedrillasic-ipo-235-thash-mining-operation-powered-by-hashfast-269216
this is icedrill

WTF is "Icedrill"? Is that a guy that used to defend HF like a porn-star to its movies?

What bullshit.
I'd rather they done it BFL style and just screw everyone. Not the people who paid them the most.

They could also be punishing the people who demanded a BTC refund and are actually going to be shipping full MPP + Baby Jet to compliant guinea pigs out by the end of the month. Haha, that would suck.

By sending forced USD refunds to Batch 1 customers that paid in BTC they have effectively booted them out of the shipping queue.

Even if they don't cash this unsollicited check, if there are units to ship they will clearly not ship to these customers.

Who knows. At the very least they were in batch 1, same as baby jet batch 1. HF should be sending out some stable units to  customers at the front of the queue as well to be fair. But, i guess it was easier to send checks to babyjet batch 1 and send units to icedrill. That all we know for now right?

Then you may recall that they expected to start receiving units in October but listed November to give them a window for setup and room for any issues that may arrive.

If they're second, who's first?  Cypherdoc?

I ordered 12/13/2014 FYI. Looks like I'm in the upper sixties in line in batch 4, based on my order number.

Actually it used to be well known they were second in line, while still in batch 1.
We were told October for Baby Jets. Icedrill told investors November.

That's simple.  DeaDTerra/iCEDRILL's order is first in line.  It may not be a well known fact, but it is.

Communication? You can add that to the list of broken promises.



They likely realized that everything they say will be used against them (since most statements made by them have been proven false). So their lawyer probably recommended to stop talking and hope this storm will blow over and customers will accept their losses.


You and me both buddy. I paid the equivalent of $50000 for my single Batch 1 BJ. If I had not ordered I'd still have my 60 BTC. If they had shipped on time I would have been able to mine the majority back by now. It is a bit of a joke really.

• HF (Aug 8) - Buy your BJ now!  In stock! Shipping Oct 20-30! Payments in BTC only.
• Me - OK. I'll buy a BJ. Here is 60 BTC
• HF - Thanks! You can totally trust us. We want our customers to succeed!
• Me (Oct 30) - Where is my product?
• HF - There is no product. Did we say Oct 20? We meant Dec 31st.
• Me (Jan 1) - Where is my product?
• HF - There is no product. Did we say Dec 31st? We meant Jan 28.
• Me - If there is no product there is no sale. Can I please get my BTC payment back as per the ToS?
• HF - No. But here is a USD check worth 7.2 BTC (or 4.5 BTC after paying taxes)
• Me - ಠ_ಠ ~Dafuq!?
• HF - Have a nice day! Come again!

I for one am not going to quit pursuing Hashfast until at the very least they provide me with some meaningful feedback, these one line replies are just a way of avoiding their resonsibility to communicate with its customers and show some transparency. If they acted in good faith and communicated regularly and responded to customers calls and emails rather than hiding behind a call answering service then they may not have such bad publicity. How do they ever expect to recover from this "Hash" of a business (excuse the pun) if they do not communicate! They are making a rod for their own back by acting in this fashion.

I have never in all my life experienced such terrible customer service from any company I have ever dealt with and that's the truth! If this was in the UK I would be straight over to the Citizens Advice Bureau and the Trading Standards office. I don't know if there is an equivelent body in USA, but I know that they exist and are in place for a reason. To protect consumers who purchase in good faith with hard earned cash. I have not used my legal insurance yet but I may have to start looking into what my options are from across the pond if I don't receive some credible feedback and responses to my questions soon.

I am really hoping that Hashfast are reading this! I want them to read it, and know that I am not kidding around. £2,500 might not be much to them and I may just be another number to them but it is a lot of money to me and by god I am not going to quit until I get what I am entitled to.

So what makes your order magically different from all the other orders so that you actually get units shipped?

You have a more expensive lawyer? There are compromising pictures we have not seen yet of massage boy that gets things  moving?

I am joking Ian. Thought it was worth saying the joke that nobody would laugh at...yet amazingly HF would comply with anyway...reguardless of anyones wishes.

I am unsure if that is Irony or Cynicism.

With respect, a customer is a customer we are all in the same boat and therefore equally deserve our refunds.