It's a little bit vigilante, but if everybody on this thread simply sent an e-mail with a link to this thread to the other recipients of Hashfast's 27 December e-mail, then we'd attract some other people with our interests...
"Hi, I'm also a Hashfast Batch 1 customer, and I received the same group e-mail that you did on December 27th. Some of us think that Hashfast is giving its customers a raw deal.
In case you haven't see it already, I thought you might like to visit this thread at bitcointalk.org for more information:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.5720"
Simple as that.
Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 307. (Read 880479 times)
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James O'Shea1 second ago
DO NOT order anything from this company until they honor their agreement for batch 1 customers.. as someone already stated they have went back on their word to refund the btc paid as is written in the terms of service.
@Hashfast. you can bet I will post this comment every day for every video you post until i get my bitcoins back!
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HashFast Technologies5 hours ago
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Gabriel Sukenik7 minutes ago
backing out on your original ToS and telling customers they can only be refunded at TODAYS btc exchange rate rather than the time of purchase seems fairly...criminal?
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druid71733 hours ago
Good luck to you guys! Hope you considering future profitability of your customers. Right now it's question number one, for all of us, especially in the batch#4.
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Tom S18 minutes ago
DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY YOU LIKELY WON'T RECEIVE ANY PRODUCT AND ONLY GET A FRACTION OF YOUR BITCOIN BACK. THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH THIS COMPANY AND THEIR LIES! THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MORE SALES! DO NOT BUY INTO THIS SCAM!
DO NOT order anything from this company until they honor their agreement for batch 1 customers.. as someone already stated they have went back on their word to refund the btc paid as is written in the terms of service.
@Hashfast. you can bet I will post this comment every day for every video you post until i get my bitcoins back!
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HashFast Technologies5 hours ago
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Gabriel Sukenik7 minutes ago
backing out on your original ToS and telling customers they can only be refunded at TODAYS btc exchange rate rather than the time of purchase seems fairly...criminal?
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druid71733 hours ago
Good luck to you guys! Hope you considering future profitability of your customers. Right now it's question number one, for all of us, especially in the batch#4.
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Tom S18 minutes ago
DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY YOU LIKELY WON'T RECEIVE ANY PRODUCT AND ONLY GET A FRACTION OF YOUR BITCOIN BACK. THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH THIS COMPANY AND THEIR LIES! THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MORE SALES! DO NOT BUY INTO THIS SCAM!
The original advertised specs when I bought were <350W at the system level:
So I don't know why they are gloating over 450W, that is well outside of the 20% tolerance @425 GH/s
HashFast is launching sales of the Baby Jet.
Here are details:
System Specs
- 1 HashFast Golden Nonce (GN) Chip
- Hashing Output: 400 Gigahash/s at nominal clock speed
- Under 350 watt power draw*
- Efficient liquid cooling
* Real silicon power consumption may vary from simulation results by plus or minus 20%
Here are details:
System Specs
- 1 HashFast Golden Nonce (GN) Chip
- Hashing Output: 400 Gigahash/s at nominal clock speed
- Under 350 watt power draw*
- Efficient liquid cooling
* Real silicon power consumption may vary from simulation results by plus or minus 20%
So I don't know why they are gloating over 450W, that is well outside of the 20% tolerance @425 GH/s
Its yay congrats we shipped a miner almost like BFL the people we were bashing. Execpt we did it in 3 months and managed to screw customers just as much.
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James O'Shea1 second ago
DO NOT order anything from this company until they honor their agreement for batch 1 customers.. as someone already stated they have went back on their word to refund the btc paid as is written in the terms of service.
@Hashfast. you can bet I will post this comment every day for every video you post until i get my bitcoins back!
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HashFast Technologies5 hours ago
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Gabriel Sukenik7 minutes ago
backing out on your original ToS and telling customers they can only be refunded at TODAYS btc exchange rate rather than the time of purchase seems fairly...criminal?
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druid71733 hours ago
Good luck to you guys! Hope you considering future profitability of your customers. Right now it's question number one, for all of us, especially in the batch#4.
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Tom S18 minutes ago
DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY YOU LIKELY WON'T RECEIVE ANY PRODUCT AND ONLY GET A FRACTION OF YOUR BITCOIN BACK. THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH THIS COMPANY AND THEIR LIES! THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MORE SALES! DO NOT BUY INTO THIS SCAM!
DO NOT order anything from this company until they honor their agreement for batch 1 customers.. as someone already stated they have went back on their word to refund the btc paid as is written in the terms of service.
@Hashfast. you can bet I will post this comment every day for every video you post until i get my bitcoins back!
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HashFast Technologies5 hours ago
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Gabriel Sukenik7 minutes ago
backing out on your original ToS and telling customers they can only be refunded at TODAYS btc exchange rate rather than the time of purchase seems fairly...criminal?
Reply · 1
druid71733 hours ago
Good luck to you guys! Hope you considering future profitability of your customers. Right now it's question number one, for all of us, especially in the batch#4.
Reply ·
Tom S18 minutes ago
DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY YOU LIKELY WON'T RECEIVE ANY PRODUCT AND ONLY GET A FRACTION OF YOUR BITCOIN BACK. THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH THIS COMPANY AND THEIR LIES! THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MORE SALES! DO NOT BUY INTO THIS SCAM!
The original advertised specs when I bought were <350W at the system level:
So I don't know why they are gloating over 450W, that is well outside of the 20% tolerance @425 GH/s
HashFast is launching sales of the Baby Jet.
Here are details:
System Specs
- 1 HashFast Golden Nonce (GN) Chip
- Hashing Output: 400 Gigahash/s at nominal clock speed
- Under 350 watt power draw*
- Efficient liquid cooling
* Real silicon power consumption may vary from simulation results by plus or minus 20%
Here are details:
System Specs
- 1 HashFast Golden Nonce (GN) Chip
- Hashing Output: 400 Gigahash/s at nominal clock speed
- Under 350 watt power draw*
- Efficient liquid cooling
* Real silicon power consumption may vary from simulation results by plus or minus 20%
So I don't know why they are gloating over 450W, that is well outside of the 20% tolerance @425 GH/s
Music in that video is kinda sexy. I guess they want to distract people from the shit performance. Look, Cgminer running at 427. AWFUL!
At least they obviously read this thread, even though they won't answer questions. They sure pointed out a lot of specific inquiries.
At least they obviously read this thread, even though they won't answer questions. They sure pointed out a lot of specific inquiries.
So they missed their power requirements, missed shipping, and looks like missed the over promised ghash rate(by this i mean the 500ghash promised and heavily advertised on the site and elsewhere as the fastest asic chip.
Fyi on their site they still advertise a 400Watt for the Baby jet
Fyi on their site they still advertise a 400Watt for the Baby jet
"450Watts!" Indeed. Given they're using a 1000W Platinum supply right in the middle of its efficiency peak, this is more than a little sad. So much for significantly less than 1J/GH at the wall.
Saved. So much for 700GH/s, 1.2TH/s or whatever numbers people were hoping for.
439.72GH/s with 450watts at the wall.
439.72GH/s with 450watts at the wall.
at Buyer's request and Hashfast will refund the payment [...]
Payment: 100% via BTC
Payment: 100% via BTC
I love this.
I have the same line, too.
Also, unit price is explicitely specified in BTC, like this:
UNIT PRICE:
xx.xxxxxxx BTC [$x,xxx USD)
Shipping is specified in USD.
Total is xx.xxxxx BTC [$X,XXX USD]
Payment: 100% via BTC
(TOS in received confirmation, from late August.)
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2.(A):
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast's first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more units of such Baby Jets, and Hashfast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may cancel the undelivered portion of the order at Buyer's request and Hashfast will refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased but did not receive and cancelled.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast's first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more units of such Baby Jets, and Hashfast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may cancel the undelivered portion of the order at Buyer's request and Hashfast will refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased but did not receive and cancelled.
No word here about any kind of conversion or rates or exchanges or anything like that. They will refund the payment, and that's all.
And payment was xx.xxxx BTC, so...
I just looked at my original payment invoice.. at the bottom of the invoice it was pretty clear language:
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Baby Jet Delivery Dates. All of the 550 Baby Jet units from HashFast's first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December
31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more units of such Baby Jets, and HashFast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may
cancel the undelivered portion of the order at Buyer's request and HashFast will refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased
but did not receive and cancelled. This cancellation and refund is Buyer's sole and exclusive remedy for HashFast failing to deliver by
the December 31, 2013 guaranteed delivery date, and Buyer must cancel the order by January 15, 2014 to avail itself of this remedy.
Buyer to pay all taxes, duties and shipping costs.
31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more units of such Baby Jets, and HashFast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may
cancel the undelivered portion of the order at Buyer's request and HashFast will refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased
but did not receive and cancelled. This cancellation and refund is Buyer's sole and exclusive remedy for HashFast failing to deliver by
the December 31, 2013 guaranteed delivery date, and Buyer must cancel the order by January 15, 2014 to avail itself of this remedy.
Buyer to pay all taxes, duties and shipping costs.
and above that in the middle of the invoice is this:
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Payment:
100% via BTC
100% via BTC
Here is Simon saying refunds are in BTC:
https://i.imgur.com/5uATg3N.png
Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2903338
https://i.imgur.com/5uATg3N.png
Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2903338
Unfortunately he doesn't state that it will be the same amount as you paid though.
No, he does not, but since the question was specifically about the amount, so if the interpretation offered by cycloid ("same amount") is wrong, he ought to point it out. He did not, thereby implying that it is correct.
It is also on the email receipt and is clear that 100% full payment will be returned in the event of cancellation.
Again... payment was 100% BTC... ergo...
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Your order is expected to ship between October 20 and October 30, 2013. Physical delivery of your order will take place within days, depending on the shipment method selected. HashFast guarantees that all "Baby Jet" units from our first production batch will be delivered by December 31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more Baby Jet units, and HashFast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may at his or her discretion, cancel the undelivered portion and HashFast will issue a full refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased but did not receive and cancelled. This cancellation and refund is Buyer's sole and exclusive remedy for HashFast failing to deliver by the December 31, 2013 guaranteed delivery date. Buyer must cancel the order and request a refund by January 15, 2014 to avail him or herself of this remedy. Buyer to pay all taxes, duties and shipping costs on units delivered.
Again... payment was 100% BTC... ergo...
Unfortunately he doesn't state that it will be the same amount as you paid though.
I think at few days
We final see what hashfast do
We final see what hashfast do
I wanted to thank you but i didn't wanted to post there, thanks for the impressive work.
at Buyer's request and Hashfast will refund the payment [...]
Payment: 100% via BTC
Payment: 100% via BTC
I love this.
I have the same line, too.
Also, unit price is explicitely specified in BTC, like this:
UNIT PRICE:
xx.xxxxxxx BTC [$x,xxx USD)
Shipping is specified in USD.
Total is xx.xxxxx BTC [$X,XXX USD]
Payment: 100% via BTC
(TOS in received confirmation, from late August.)
Quote
2.(A):
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast's first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more units of such Baby Jets, and Hashfast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may cancel the undelivered portion of the order at Buyer's request and Hashfast will refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased but did not receive and cancelled.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast's first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013. If Buyer ordered one or more units of such Baby Jets, and Hashfast does not deliver such units by that date, then Buyer may cancel the undelivered portion of the order at Buyer's request and Hashfast will refund the payment for the units that Buyer purchased but did not receive and cancelled.
No word here about any kind of conversion or rates or exchanges or anything like that. They will refund the payment, and that's all.
And payment was xx.xxxx BTC, so...
I am finished...
Giving up is what they want. It's since October that i'm stressed for this, and they are doing whatever possible to kill us psychologically because they can't stand in court.Don't give up.
You just told them that you don't want a refund and you are ok with late shipping, as long as they ship it as soon as possible. Why would you do that?
I have earned so much money and btc with knc jupiter´s, and for now I want.... hmm in germany we say:
It is better to have an fright with an end, as an never ending fright!
thx
My nerves on the end now, with this company.
I still waiting for the bj and the mpp boards, and when hf will deliver them on 15 Dec 2029 it is also ok. I am finished...
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