HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s - page 13.

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Quote from: RoadStress on March 08, 2014, 03:31:57 PM

And you missed my point. What's the point of YOU having 800GH/s if nobody else (your customers) can't have it?

I missed your point because it was cloaked in an untrue statement implying EVO hasn't been hashing at a widely-publicized bitcoin conference for an entire week.

We can't magically conjure unlimited numbers of EVO boards by wishing them into existence; it takes time and effort to produce them.

So, the point of HashFast having 800GH/s is that the difficult process of bringing a new technology to the public is well underway (IE the design phase is finished) and we're working very hard to make EVO scale sufficient to meet overwhelming demand.

Is "Road Stress" what makes traveling children ask 'are we there yet' over and over, as if being demanding and impatient will somehow make the car go faster? After all, what's the point of driving 80 miles when the destination is 100 miles away? Grin

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Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:25:40 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on March 08, 2014, 05:19:44 AM

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:24:25 AM

This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 750GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

Breaking records in a lab means nothing if your customers aren't getting their units.

"In a lab?" Did you somehow manage to entirely miss the latest news from Austin? You should check our twitter page if you want to keep up.

Quote from: bobsag3 on March 08, 2014, 11:26:18 AM

I met and saw this new machine in person

Where is the 800GH/s mark? I don't see it in that twitter page.

And you missed my point. What's the point of YOU having 800GH/s if nobody else (your customers) can't have it?

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Quote from: RoadStress on March 08, 2014, 05:19:44 AM

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:24:25 AM

This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 750GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

Breaking records in a lab means nothing if your customers aren't getting their units.

"In a lab?" Did you somehow manage to entirely miss the latest news from Austin? You should check our twitter page if you want to keep up.

Quote from: bobsag3 on March 08, 2014, 11:26:18 AM

I met and saw this new machine in person

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Quote from: bobsag3 on March 08, 2014, 11:26:18 AM

+1 from me. I met and saw this new machine in person, not impressed at all. It took all I had to not go up to the engineer (who couldnt stop saying how good this "new" 800gh is) and say "How about the ~20 or so orders my clients have that havent been fulfilled yet?

+1

17 (20+ units) orders here.

I'm not sure if I could refrain myself as much as you did, words or a fist would be flying from me, hats off to you.

Considering I was there as a vendor and with my partners, the only thing holding be back was professional courtesy, and didnt want to make the fantastic organizer's lives any harder. Trust me, I was not the only person there with that opinion.

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Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 04:31:23 AM

I agree about the preponderance of noise and dearth of moderation. But this forum is too important to the BTC community to let the haters and windfall seekers achieve their goals of disruption and dilution.

The BTC community is too important to let it be exploited and scammed by companies like HashFast that see it as an opportunity to make a quick buck and run off with peoples money.

Your past performance (Batch #1 BBJet 3 months late, no MPP shipped, no upgrades shipped, no Batch #2 Sierras shipped) should raise all the red flags for potential buyers. Buy the new EVO board from HashFast and you are garanteed to get screwed over.

Time will tell, you can never meet any of the promises you make.

I'm happy to hear you sold out your first batch, that means you'll have plenty of BTC to refund the Batch #2 customers who have still not seen their Sierras

+1 from me. I met and saw this new machine in person, not impressed at all. It took all I had to not go up to the engineer (who couldnt stop saying how good this "new" 800gh is) and say "How about the ~20 or so orders my clients have that havent been fulfilled yet?

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Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 04:31:23 AM

I agree about the preponderance of noise and dearth of moderation. But this forum is too important to the BTC community to let the haters and windfall seekers achieve their goals of disruption and dilution.

The BTC community is too important to let it be exploited and scammed by companies like HashFast that see it as an opportunity to make a quick buck and run off with peoples money.

Your past performance (Batch #1 BBJet 3 months late, no MPP shipped, no upgrades shipped, no Batch #2 Sierras shipped) should raise all the red flags for potential buyers. Buy the new EVO board from HashFast and you are garanteed to get screwed over.

Time will tell, you can never meet any of the promises you make.

I'm happy to hear you sold out your first batch, that means you'll have plenty of BTC to refund the Batch #2 customers who have still not seen their Sierras

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Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:24:25 AM

Quote from: GigaWave on March 08, 2014, 03:04:03 AM

HF_CL. Instead of having flame wars, why do you focus your efforts on something beneficial, like getting HF to post some kind of regular update(daily weekly update of order dates shipped/shipping) showing what order dates are shipping. Like BFL did(As much as I hate to even mention those....I'll be too nice....shall I say, shade folks). Regular updates like that will give HF far more credibility than you can ever dream of by making pointless, perhaps.. even offense... post. Show everyone proof, not excuses. If you can't see the value in that, than I don't think HF is looking for value, they are just looking for a quick payout. Which in case it isn't obvious is != to job security.

This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 750GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

Breaking records in a lab means nothing if your customers aren't getting their units.

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Quote from: GigaWave on March 08, 2014, 03:50:46 AM

These forums have far to much noise/lack of moderation(by this sites moderators/thread starters)/concise info by thread starters, to distribute information in a concise manner for those kind of updates to be solely posted here.

P.S Nice to see a acknowledgement and initiative. Lets see if it actually does anything.

I agree about the preponderance of noise and dearth of moderation. But this forum is too important to the BTC community to let the haters and windfall seekers achieve their goals of disruption and dilution.

We don't have to give up and accept the inevitability of threads being turned into nothing but useless rage posts, personal attacks, and flame bait.

Will you help me keep this (and other) threads cleaned up by reporting posts violating gmaxwell's Rules of Conduct?

If you enjoy discussing Bitcoin ASICs, please assist in keeping our Custom Hardware sub on-topic!

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Quote from: jimmothy on March 08, 2014, 04:06:28 AM

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:53:00 AM

This is the Custom Hardware subforum. We are supposed to discuss things like

-HashFast ASIC specs (original 400GH/s goal met, now up to 800GH/s)
-Cointerra ASIC specs (much less than original 500GH/s target)

we aren't supposed to endlessly belabor flimsy scam accusations like

-HashFast didn't provide windfalls by refunding $100 BTCs with an equal number of $1000 Bitcoins, therefore it's a Ponzi!!11!

The thread says up to 800gh but you just said

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HashFast's record-breaking new 800GH/s

Why not hashfast record breaking 750gh?

I agree it is silly to have your company act as a hedge for those who paid with $100 btcs but want a refund of $650 btcs

Fair enough, I'll edit the 800GH/s in that post and change it to the absolutely undisputable 750Gh/s figure (my intention was not to mislead but rather grammatical correctness).

Thanks for calling out the windfall seekers who wanted to be in a can't lose/free lunch situation at HashFast's expense. "Silly" is one of the right words for their ridiculous expectations, but some other ones come to mind given the actions they've taken...

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Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:53:00 AM

Given the EVO already runs at 750GH/s, anticipating a small additional improvement of 50GH/s is very reasonable. The OP says "up to 800GH/s." Please pay attention and recognize the importance of the key "up to" phrase, which modifies the "800GH/s" figure.

This is the Custom Hardware subforum. We are supposed to discuss things like

-HashFast ASIC specs (original 400GH/s goal met, now up to 800GH/s)
-Cointerra ASIC specs (much less than original 500GH/s target)

we aren't supposed to endlessly belabor flimsy scam accusations like

-HashFast didn't provide windfalls by refunding $100 BTCs with an equal number of $1000 Bitcoins, therefore it's a Ponzi!!11!

If nothing we do could make you consider buying from us, why are you posting here? Batch One EVOs sold out almost instantly, so exhibiting your grudge in public hasn't had any noticeable effect. Better get a Batch Two before they're gone!

The thread says up to 800gh but you just said

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HashFast's record-breaking new 800GH/s

Why not hashfast record breaking 750gh?

I agree it is silly to have your company act as a hedge for those who paid with $100 btcs but want a refund of $650 btcs but you specifically said refunds would be in btc. Stupid mistake on your part to agree to such a deal and not hold the btc in case of refunds.

And congrats on selling out batch 1. How many evos are we talking? 100? 1000? For all we know batch one consisted of 5 units.

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Quote from: jimmothy on March 08, 2014, 03:31:00 AM

How can you even claim 800gh when you have yet to reach it?

And how can you bash another company for missing advertised specs when you missed yours as well.

Not sure the point of discussing specs. Even if hashfast had a 1600gh chip at 0.1w/gh it still wouldn't be enough for me to consider buying from you as you feel is it acceptable to change existing contracts whenever you please.

Given the EVO already runs at 750GH/s, anticipating a small additional improvement of 50GH/s is very reasonable. The OP says "up to 800GH/s." Please pay attention and recognize the importance of the key "up to" phrase, which modifies the "800GH/s" figure.

This is the Custom Hardware subforum. We are supposed to discuss things like

-HashFast ASIC specs (original 400GH/s goal met, now up to 800GH/s)
-Cointerra ASIC specs (much less than original 500GH/s target)

we aren't supposed to endlessly belabor flimsy scam accusations like

-HashFast didn't provide windfalls by refunding $100 BTCs with an equal number of $1000 Bitcoins, therefore it's a Ponzi!!11!

If nothing we do could make you consider buying from us, why are you posting here? Batch One EVOs sold out almost instantly, so exhibiting your grudge in public hasn't had any noticeable effect. Better get a Batch Two before they're gone!

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Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:24:25 AM

Quote from: GigaWave on March 08, 2014, 03:04:03 AM

HF_CL. Instead of having flame wars, why do you focus your efforts on something beneficial, like getting HF to post some kind of regular update(daily weekly update of order dates shipped/shipping) showing what order dates are shipping. Like BFL did(As much as I hate to even mention those....I'll be too nice....shall I say, shade folks). Regular updates like that will give HF far more credibility than you can ever dream of by making pointless, perhaps.. even offense... post. Show everyone proof, not excuses. If you can't see the value in that, than I don't think HF is looking for value, they are just looking for a quick payout. Which in case it isn't obvious is != to job security.

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:24:25 AM

This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 800GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

If my aforementioned concerns are so "every old complaint' please reference at least two. I do my best to keep up with the pointless threads/post with more often than not worthless content, but I have not seen any such with my suggestions.

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 03:24:25 AM

As I just explained one post ago

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 02:42:21 AM

My focus is more on the tech (mining with HashFast ASICs) side and less on the customer support/sales (when is my XXX shipping?) tip.

And you are correct; we should also have another thread where the topic is "When is my HashFast Thingy shipping?" started/moderated by someone with more insight than I about order chains, supply chains, customs, etc.

Implementing your keen suggestion does fall under the scope of my Community Liaison work and I will pass it up to my superiors. Thanks for the feedback!

Don't use this forum primarly for what I'm suggesting. That is something that should be posted on HF's site. Referencing to those updates here is another thing. These forums have far to much noise/lack of moderation(by this sites moderators/thread starters)/concise info by thread starters, to distribute information in a concise manner for those kind of updates to be solely posted here.

P.S Nice to see a acknowledgement and initiative. Lets see if it actually does anything.

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How can you even claim 800gh when you have yet to reach it?

And how can you bash another company for missing advertised specs when you missed yours as well.

Not sure the point of discussing specs. Even if hashfast had a 1600gh chip at 0.1w/gh it still wouldn't be enough for me to consider buying from you as you feel is it acceptable to change existing contracts whenever you please.

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Quote from: GigaWave on March 08, 2014, 03:04:03 AM

HF_CL. Instead of having flame wars, why do you focus your efforts on something beneficial, like getting HF to post some kind of regular update(daily weekly update of order dates shipped/shipping) showing what order dates are shipping. Like BFL did(As much as I hate to even mention those....I'll be too nice....shall I say, shade folks). Regular updates like that will give HF far more credibility than you can ever dream of by making pointless, perhaps.. even offense... post. Show everyone proof, not excuses. If you can't see the value in that, than I don't think HF is looking for value, they are just looking for a quick payout. Which in case it isn't obvious is != to job security.

This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 750GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

As I just explained one post ago

Quote from: HashFast_CL on March 08, 2014, 02:42:21 AM

My focus is more on the tech (mining with HashFast ASICs) side and less on the customer support/sales (when is my XXX shipping?) tip.

And you are correct; we should also have another thread where the topic is "When is my HashFast Thingy shipping?" started/moderated by someone with more insight than I about order chains, supply chains, customs, etc.

Implementing your keen suggestion does fall under the scope of my Community Liaison work and I will pass it up to my superiors. Thanks for the feedback!

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HF_CL. Instead of having flame wars, why do you focus your efforts on something beneficial, like getting HF to post some kind of regular update(daily weekly update of order dates shipped/shipping) showing what order dates are shipping. Like BFL did(As much as I hate to even mention those....I'll be too nice....shall I say, shade folks). Regular updates like that will give HF far more credibility than you can ever dream of by making pointless, perhaps.. even offense... post. Show everyone proof, not excuses. If you can't see the value in that, than I don't think HF is looking for value, they are just looking for a quick payout. Which in case it isn't obvious is != to job security.

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Quote from: ninjarobot on March 08, 2014, 02:12:49 AM

Care to explain the Customer Liasion part of your name HashFast_CL?

Customer: People who buy your products (e.g. us)

Liasion: Liaison means communication between two or more groups, or co-operation or working together.

But by all means carry on.

I'm the Community (not "Customer") Liaison. My focus is more on the tech (mining with HashFast ASICs) side and less on the customer support/sales (when is my XXX shipping?) tip.

HashFast execs are far too busy getting more/better boards built to spend time reading this forum and reddit, but know how important community is to an open-source project like Bitcoin. So I keep up with the word on road and provide executive summary. I also listen to office chatter and relate what may be disclosed back on here.

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Care to explain the Customer Liasion part of your name HashFast_CL?

Customer: People who buy your products (e.g. us)

Liasion: Liaison means communication between two or more groups, or co-operation or working together.

But by all means carry on.

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my last two posts were deleted by thread owner which pisses me off very much.

When posts fail to respect the OP ("HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s") they are off-topic and will be moderated.

Here is some great advice gmaxwell, our intrepid Hardware subforum moderator, wrote for people like you:

Quote from: gmaxwell on March 06, 2014, 07:15:11 PM

Posts by an equipment manufacturer or their staff in a thread about that manufacturer are automatically on-topic regardless of their content.

I know this can be hard, but please make an effort to keep posts on-topic (primarily about HF's new product offering)

If you are unhappy about these conditions I invite you to not post in custom hardware.

If you are unable to control your behavior your ability to post in custom hardware will be removed in one way or another.

Cheers and happy discussing.

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So lets ponder this question, how many miners will go ahead and buy this VaporChip for the modest price of 19,000 (19K) Huh

since I can't go ahead and buy just one or two . I think they just alienated their customer base. Also makes me think they should actually give these EVO boards to the loyal customers that bought MMP and Ad-on Boards since this would as fair deal.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on March 06, 2014, 07:15:11 PM

I would remind people to not post identical things here again if they've been deleted, go bump the non-self-modderated thread instead. I know this can be hard when you can't see what has been previously deleted since such a substantial chunk of this thread has been deleted, but please make an effort to keep posts on-topic (primarily about HF's new product offering) and to not repeat posts.

Thanks gmaxwell. I respect your moderator skills/integrity and will donate some meals to Satoshi Forest in your name.

Do I need to report trolls for reposting/harassment/off-topic or can you handle it without my input?

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