What a pathetic scammer supporter. Good job!
Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s - page 11. (Read 29875 times)
Most of the points about refunds in BTC, MPP, and delays are not being addressed by OP.
What a pathetic scammer supporter. Good job!
What a pathetic scammer supporter. Good job!
As per US law, bitcoins are not legal tender and thus you are breaking the law by accepting them.
Hahaha, and here I thought your response to me on the Havelock thread was a funny as someone could get! Legal tender is an obligation satisfaction concept in the US, it doesn't define the panoply of property you can accept in trade. You can accept anything you wish as satisfaction of an obligation in the US, so long as it is not expressly prohibited to do so (for instance, most countries would prohibit sex, cocaine, or untaxed alcohol as payment, all the fun stuff), and you can refuse anything you want if you haven't yet incurred the obligation (a store clerk doesn't have to take your $100 in pennies in exchange for those 10 bottles of cheap vodka you want, but if you already bought those bottles on credit with the store, they have to take the $100 in pennies as satisfaction of the debt). Is there a website somewhere that supplies people with crazy, childish concepts about the law or something? I don't know where you people get your interpretations.
Not sure what you have against me but I actually do agree with you.
My point was that hashfast argument that all refunds must be in usd is bogus. Either btc is legal tender and they are obligated to refund full payment amount in btc or it is not legal tender in which case they were breaking the supposed law by accepting btc payments in the first place.
Your weird defenses of your claim that Havelock is an have been a registered exchange in Panama are what I was laughing at. I was just going through your posts, I didn't really look at Hashfasts argument. S/he's certainly wrong that refunds MUST be in USD, but it's also not true that they are obligated to refund in btc, or at least not completely true. They have two choices in the US (this actually varies by state, but most have adopted the relevant provisions of the UCC, so it's pretty much the same), they can refund in the medium that was provided (btc), or they can refund the USD equivalent market value of the medium at the time of tender. The time of tender is the time at which the obligee (that's you) is in a position to accept or reject what the obligor has offered in satisfaction. In other words, they either have to give you back the btc, or give you back the USD at current market value. They don't get back-date.
As per US law, bitcoins are not legal tender and thus you are breaking the law by accepting them.
Hahaha, and here I thought your response to me on the Havelock thread was a funny as someone could get! Legal tender is an obligation satisfaction concept in the US, it doesn't define the panoply of property you can accept in trade. You can accept anything you wish as satisfaction of an obligation in the US, so long as it is not expressly prohibited to do so (for instance, most countries would prohibit sex, cocaine, or untaxed alcohol as payment, all the fun stuff), and you can refuse anything you want if you haven't yet incurred the obligation (a store clerk doesn't have to take your $100 in pennies in exchange for those 10 bottles of cheap vodka you want, but if you already bought those bottles on credit with the store, they have to take the $100 in pennies as satisfaction of the debt). Is there a website somewhere that supplies people with crazy, childish concepts about the law or something? I don't know where you people get your interpretations.
Not sure what you have against me but I actually do agree with you.
My point was that hashfast argument that all refunds must be in usd is bogus. Either btc is legal tender and they are obligated to refund full payment amount in btc or it is not legal tender in which case they were breaking the supposed law by accepting btc payments in the first place.
As per US law, bitcoins are not legal tender and thus you are breaking the law by accepting them.
Hahaha, and here I thought your response to me on the Havelock thread was a funny as someone could get! Legal tender is an obligation satisfaction concept in the US, it doesn't define the panoply of property you can accept in trade. You can accept anything you wish as satisfaction of an obligation in the US, so long as it is not expressly prohibited to do so (for instance, most countries would prohibit sex, cocaine, or untaxed alcohol as payment, all the fun stuff), and you can refuse anything you want if you haven't yet incurred the obligation (a store clerk doesn't have to take your $100 in pennies in exchange for those 10 bottles of cheap vodka you want, but if you already bought those bottles on credit with the store, they have to take the $100 in pennies as satisfaction of the debt). Is there a website somewhere that supplies people with crazy, childish concepts about the law or something? I don't know where you people get your interpretations.
fuck. I never got my batch 1 baby jet and now your peddling more miners?
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As I remember in the beginning HashCrap would ONLY accept bitcion because they had a sorry excuse that they didn't have the payment systems up. So stop BULLSHITTING about convenience...the only convenience was to put BTC into HashFast's pockets.
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a temporary exchange medium provided as a convenience
As I remember in the beginning HashCrap would ONLY accept bitcion because they had a sorry excuse that they didn't have the payment systems up. So stop BULLSHITTING about convenience...the only convenience was to put BTC into HashFast's pockets.
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More Pre order bullshit from a CO. sitting on how many hundreds of thousands of dollars of customer hardware that they are %100 hashing with.
Anyone sending them anything is crazy. They will never deliver that hardware in a reasonable period time.
Keep your BTC
As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law.
US law does not *require* refunds to be in US dollars. Businesses are free to "barter" for payments of services and products.
And they did received it in November? Can't remember.
12 of November.http://hashfast.org/Eduardo_Decastro
The article: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-09/bitcoin-mining-chips-gear-computing-groups-competition-heats-up#p3
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It wasn't fraud you say? What was the delivery deadline and when you received your first chips and then when you had your first running board?
They knew in September they were going to receive their first Silicon in November. It was posted in a Uniquity/HF interview in a random news article.
There's so much garbage out there when it comes to HF so I've been unlucky in finding it again, but it is out there.
And they did received it in November? Can't remember.
They knew in September they were going to receive their first Silicon in November. It was posted in a Uniquity/HF interview in a random news article.
There's so much garbage out there when it comes to HF so I've been unlucky in finding it again, but it is out there.
I really don't remember it. Are you talking about the "crashing in a wall" article? It's the only one i remember. There's so much garbage out there when it comes to HF so I've been unlucky in finding it again, but it is out there.
Gonna read that again (i have it on my sent emails, quite sure of it).
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As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law.
That's the whole point why you are all scammers @HashFast. You promised in written obligation that all refunds for the bitcoin payments will be in bitcoins. You can't deny this, your company signed under it, copies are all over the internet. Your customer doesn't have to know the law, but you knew right from the beginning you are not going to do it, you are not going to fulfill your written obligation. How do you call when someone signs under the agreement knowing he will never, ever fulfill it? I call it a scam, there's no other name for it.
Keep in mind that few months before your company started collecting payments, another US company (Avalon) issued full refunds to tens of thousand of customers all over the world. All those refunds were in Bitcoin, and that company never, ever had problems with the US legal system for doing that. So you are continuing to lie and scam claiming that something is illegal, which is not.
It wasn't fraud you say? What was the delivery deadline and when you received your first chips and then when you had your first running board?
They knew in September they were going to receive their first Silicon in November. It was posted in a Uniquity/HF interview in a random news article.
There's so much garbage out there when it comes to HF so I've been unlucky in finding it again, but it is out there.
Why do people even try?
HashLast is the most unprofessional company i´ve seen in my life.
They´re shit, don´t even try to talk to them because you´re only feeding the megalomaniac Eduardo.
HashLast is the most unprofessional company i´ve seen in my life.
They´re shit, don´t even try to talk to them because you´re only feeding the megalomaniac Eduardo.
We've provided refunds too all Batch 1 customers who asked. Most choose to be patient and have received their hardware.
How about providing the equipment ordered for those who paid for Batch #1 customers? How about the missing MPP? How about the missing Upgrade boards. How about the lack of Sierra units? None have shipped...
How much more patient do you have to be as a Hashfast customer? More than 4 months? I don't remember 'choosing to be patient' as an option, especially in a field where timely delivery is key, as one of your company boozos is quote on video
That promises for anybody stupid enough to order from you in the future... See the signs punters, don't ever buy from Hashfast.
Sold out?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
HashFast was open and honest about the reasons for our delay. The delay was for technical reasons, not "fraud" as you falsely claim.
We've provided refunds too all Batch 1 customers who asked. Most choose to be patient and have received their hardware.
As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law.
Because your machine was always priced US dollars, divesting yourself of the delusion you are owed an approximate 800% windfall (based on post-purchase appreciation of a temporary exchange medium provided as a convenience) may also be a good idea.
I guess your lawyer only wanted to take your money, because there's little to no chance he's never heard of 31 US Code Section 5103:
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31 U.S. Code § 5103 - Legal tender
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
You refused your machine and you refused a full refund. So you get nothing. Nice legal maneuvering there buddy!
It wasn't fraud you say? What was the delivery deadline and when you received your first chips and then when you had your first running board?
Sold out?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
HashFast was open and honest about the reasons for our delay. The delay was for technical reasons, not "fraud" as you falsely claim.
We've provided refunds too all Batch 1 customers who asked. Most choose to be patient and have received their hardware.
As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law.
Because your machine was always priced US dollars, divesting yourself of the delusion you are owed an approximate 800% windfall (based on post-purchase appreciation of a temporary exchange medium provided as a convenience) may also be a good idea.
I guess your lawyer only wanted to take your money, because there's little to no chance he's never heard of 31 US Code Section 5103:
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31 U.S. Code § 5103 - Legal tender
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
You refused your machine and you refused a full refund. So you get nothing. Nice legal maneuvering there buddy!
As per US law, bitcoins are not legal tender and thus you are breaking the law by accepting them.
You can't pick and choose which parts of the law you want to follow.
If you accept btc payments and explicitly state that all btc refunds will be returned in the original currency you cannot change your mind when it no longer benefits you.
Fun fact: as per US law, modifying a contract without both parties consent is illegal.
Sold out?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
HashFast was open and honest about the reasons for our delay. The delay was for technical reasons, not "fraud" as you falsely claim.
We've provided refunds too all Batch 1 customers who asked. Most choose to be patient and have received their hardware.
As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law.
Because your machine was always priced US dollars, divesting yourself of the delusion you are owed an approximate 800% windfall (based on post-purchase appreciation of a temporary exchange medium provided as a convenience) may also be a good idea.
I guess your lawyer only wanted to take your money, because there's little to no chance he's never heard of 31 US Code Section 5103:
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31 U.S. Code § 5103 - Legal tender
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
You refused your machine and you refused a full refund. So you get nothing. Nice legal maneuvering there buddy!
The wild flailing (and OP) are about HashFast's new world record holding 750+ GH/s ASIC.
The 2.1TH Sierra EVO using only 3 chips is just one possible configuration and it comes in a 4U box, unlike a 4TH antminer (which would take up about 6 times as much space).
If HashFast's spec-smashing 2TH is pathetic, then what are CT's 20% power and performance misses?
The 2.1TH Sierra EVO using only 3 chips is just one possible configuration and it comes in a 4U box, unlike a 4TH antminer (which would take up about 6 times as much space).
If HashFast's spec-smashing 2TH is pathetic, then what are CT's 20% power and performance misses?
That's all fine and dandy, with the exception of a purchase from Bitmain will arrive in 4 days. HF? Well, you say it'll ship in May, but we all know that's BS. HF hasn't even shipped out units ordered late last year. No one is going to see this "EVO" any time soon.
Honest question: How many more coins will I mine with 2TH of S1's before I see an HF unit if I order both today?
stop comparing to cointerra. They have done much better at assembling and shipping devices so far
Not according to their own customers:
It's been a week and I can't even get an RMA for my defective [Cointerra] unit. 
I requested a refund a full 20 days ago.. i have not heard anything from [Cointerra] about it... WTF
This new firmware has made the bum January unit even more unstable, now it'll only hash at the high rate briefly before the rates tank and a reboot only gets the normal rates briefly before it tanks again. And of course this is a unit that showed up suspiciously missing the warranty stickers and missing the plug guard and with rubber feet already screwed in-I'm almost 100% sure this unit had problems during testing at cointerra.
Do you actually own CT hardware or are you only presuming to speak for those who do?
the only pre-order equipment i own is a bitfury. Ive been very happy to buy from in-stock bitmain since then. I am quite happy to have not pre-ordered from HF or CT.
and again - cointerra units are in the hands of buyers albeit underperforming.
hashfast units may be in the hands of buyers, but under your MPP plan its obvious that hashfast underdelivered massively by not shipping multiple units as promised
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