Topic: ► ► ►HashFast Endorsement - page 14. (Read 36908 times)

+1, although I'll still order with cc if it's available...why not. But, if you have a shitload of Bitcoins from previous mining ventures, then it would make sense to pay with Bitcoins. I don't...


Is this still going on? Come on... I think you're reading way too much into what cypherdoc did with KNC, and it's coming off a little desperate and off-topic. But your call, do what you want.

Although it ain't no holy grail, I'm grateful cypherdoc is providing some info on HF, and I'm also grateful Bitcoinorama provided info on KNC. Personally, I have orders in both companies. I won't be surprised if both of them don't deliver on time, or a month or 2 late, so I'm just putting eggs in different baskets. It's 28 nm! People say KNC will deliver Sept/Oct, but who knows... What if it's Nov? and HF also Nov? It's a gamble. To me, KNC & HF seem to be a similar investment, although KNC is now at a higher stake to deliver on time. Competition is great. If HF starts rolling them out before KNC, then better hope HF is out of stock, and KNC buyers have no choice but to wait for KNC. But, if KNC delivers on time, then HF customers are stuck waiting/hoping until Dec. 31st or sooner. It is a disappointment since HF has a less incentive to deliver on time. But, I have faith that HF isn't going to try to screw people over and mine their ready-to-deliver equipment and ship last moment in December.  That would be messed up. I hope this Miner Protection Program will clear this up and will be an added incentive for HF to deliver as soon as possible.

i think you're wrong.  it's not illegal to cancel an order you've not yet received.  ppl do it all the time for a variety of reasons.  and i happen to think alot of ppl on the forum are going thru the same scenario i have.  you're honestly trying to tell them they can't do this?

No. What you did was illegal. It's there in black and white. You admitted it publicly. Furthermore you represent this company and you are still participating as if your behaviour is acceptable.

I could delve into the many reasons as to why having a spokesman advocating fraud isn't beneficial for a fledgling company wanting to distance itself from fraudulent activity, whilst they are tentatively treading carefully to convince people they can deliver on time without secured payment means or offering refunds until well after their date if delivery. Especially after their dubious marketing activity, and claims to date.

How will I lose my personal investment? I paid by a protected payment means. KnC offer that.

You're truly awful at this;

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/secured-payments-consumer-protection-and-buyer-recourse-272891

dude, you really need to let these baseless allegations go.

guess how long i had my KNC cc order in place?  answer:  15 measly days from 7/13-7/28.  amount of order:  $21K

guess how long i had my Megabig cc order in place?  answer:  16 measly days from 7/20-8/6.  amount of order:  $40K

as i've said many times before, if i really wanted to hurt those companies, i would've made $1M orders at each of them and waited right up until the day before shipment to request a refund to inflict max pain.  get off your high horse.

my assessment of the rapidly evolving asic company landscape changed as more info became available.   that simple.

i think everyone has to realize that Bitcoinorama stands to lose his own personal investment if ppl defect from KNC.  that is where i think alot of his motivation is coming from to smash HF and anyone related to them in the most remote way.

No dude. He is talking about buyer protection in case anything with the manufacturer went awry. You were insinuating it was ok to lay several bets across various cards and cancel as you saw fit.

One is perfectly acceptable and what consumer protection is for, the other is fraudulent card usage, and illegal.

You really need to understand this, you're meant to be representing an above board company and encouraging malpractice directly from a spokesperson is not a healthy look. Just don't go there.

Don't forget you can still order immediately at 800.609.3445 or email [email protected].

 

Now we have an understanding

Downside for the company, upside for the customer.

And, since we would be the customers...

You mean Avalon? Do we know they hash?? Damn...

In any case I am beting on HF too through IceDrill 

Wow didn't know this!

I'm not sure I believe that.

You have to believe that quality versus quantity will win out at some point especially in this game.

Also alot of quality chips can be made cheaply

Btw, it appears a lot of Chinese chips are now happily hashing away in the wrong hands.

Yeah, worrying about electrical efficiency at this point is ridiculous.


Actually it would have mattered a great deal.  The U.S. only had two nukes at the time, the Japanese could have destroyed LA or something forcing a stalemate/cold war situation. The Japanese actually had a nuclear program but gave it up, thinking that it would be too expensive even for the U.S. to try it.

About BTCGarden:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2922049

All I wanna say is even if HF is THE ASIC manufacturer in terms of quality, this is not a quarantee for success in this market.
A shitload of cheap Chinese hashes will have been released until HF delivers. How can you compete with quantity? Quality - go for 28nm.
But there we have more than 1 competitor and the most important factor is timing. It wouldn't matter if Japan could deploy an H-bomb a month after Hirosima happened. A plain nuclear bomb did the job...

I will be posting the Miner Protection Program shortly

 - Eduardo deCastro, Founder & CEO, HashFast Technologies

they're finalizing the text right now.