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Interesting. I'm sure many people would like to drop by for a friendly chat and a cup of tea!

I will make sure the NCIB (National Fraud Intelligence Bereau here in the UK) are aware of this to continue their investigations.

I urge any UK residents who were also defrauded to do the same.


Hi all ! Ready to injoy that ! it is international crime... have all mails, last copy of Hashra site of my order, boxes, papers (one delivered order)
I tried myself to China police... They says ... small data, and lonly message...
In hope in british justice, ready to give all  i have to Hashra...
Need some wave, for wakeup Hashra users...

ps Owner of Hashra is one british citizen... so cards in your hands... i can subscribe only ...
sr. member
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February 19, 2017, 01:12:47 PM
Unless you have free electricity, these units will be losing you money after running costs ?
newbie
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February 19, 2017, 08:14:44 AM
So I have the 14.4 launcher myself and the wires for the PSU got so hot that they melted. I rewired the unit but it wont pick back up the way it used to. Could someone please tell me what the jumper settings on the boards are to be set to as well as the jumper wire placement please or just take a picture of the inside of the unit for me please?
sr. member
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November 08, 2016, 03:09:50 AM

Interesting. I'm sure many people would like to drop by for a friendly chat and a cup of tea!

I will make sure the NCIB (National Fraud Intelligence Bereau here in the UK) are aware of this to continue their investigations.

I urge any UK residents who were also defrauded to do the same.





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November 08, 2016, 12:41:09 AM
I doubt that UK and Hong Kong courts will accept Bitcoins. My company has a contract with him in USD.
hero member
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November 08, 2016, 12:38:47 AM
Is there a Chance to get the paid BTCs back ?

Regards
member
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Bump. I'm curious what's happened with this case. Are there any updates?
hero member
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November 11, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
Damn, what a disappointment. Does anyone have any updates?  Angry
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September 07, 2015, 01:45:15 PM
Nothing .  . ?
sr. member
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Hi all,

I have been contacted by the NCIB (National Fraud Intelligence Bereau) here in the UK, regarding my fraud complaint against Simon and Hashra.

They have a number of other claimants, and it looks like they are putting together a case against him.

Can I urge any other UK victims to get in contact with NCIB on the ActionFraud website and register a case. The more complaints they have on file, the better chance we have of an outcome from this fraudster.

Good luck! Will post on other Hashra threads....

andycee

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27 May 2015
Dear Mr #####
Re: NFRC#############
I’m writing to inform you about the current position of your report.
The National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) has reviewed the information and have
found sufficient viable lines of enquiry for a possible police investigation. I am pleased to
inform you your report has been sent to FALCON South Hub, who have recorded it under:
• reference Falcon South CRIS ######/15
FALCON South Hub is responsible for any resulting investigation and for providing you with
further updates to your report. Their contact details are details:
• FALCON South Hub by email at None or
• By phone 020 7232 7226
When you contact FALCON South Hub, please give them your reference number (above).
If you would like more information on how to protect yourself from fraud, there is information
on the Action Fraud website at www.actionfraud.police.uk/support_for_you or you can call
them on 0300 123 2040.
Thank you again for taking the time to report this matter to us.
Yours sincerely,
Pete O'Doherty
Director of NFIB
sr. member
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Remember the "shipments went out, tracking numbers will be updated after the weekend" e-mail a couple of months ago? How does that work into the rest of the story? None of it can be trusted.


They never said anything shipped, they said they were going to ship.  BIG difference.

Going back to what I said before, why would they perpetuate it?  They have the money, and there is no recourse at this point besides legal, so they could have both disappeared by now. 

They didn't.

Instead Jeff from lifeforce started smarterhash, and has invested quite a bit of money into it, particularly into coding which is not recoverable if he decided to disappear and reuse the servers for something else.

And Simon is taking flack from all sides, it's not surprising that he wouldn't be answering a ton of emails while trying to run his one-man operation.  If he answered every email, how would he get any work done on development of the miners?  Instead, he updates Jeff from time to time, just to have a point of reference to update the outside world.

Sometimes you gotta step back and look at the bigger picture.

In this case, the bigger picture still isn't pretty, and getting uglier by the day.  But that's on Simon..  He made poor business decisions that put him where he is.  Even after he delivers the astro's, the hashra name is mud for delivering them this late.

But then again, most people now have short memory..  If they are what they are supposed to be efficiency-wise, when people price compare he'll sell a ton of them until someone else comes up with better.  Some people will nay-say, but the proof is in the numbers and they will sell.
legendary
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My definition of scam, is a plan meant to defraud, that is implemented.  Nothing more, nothing less.

I didn't get that email, I'm curious as to why..  Huh

But, my impression from the delays so far, is that that is not the chip used.  Simon mentioned having issues getting chips made.  If he was using Alcheminer chips, he could have just bought them from Alcheminer, or straight from the foundry that made the Alcheminer chips..  Instead the word is that there was a problem with the first batch of chips, and the second batch was better but the board design was bad.  That doesn't add up to him using other known chips.  I'm thinking it was more of a comparison meant to show the hashra chips are more efficient.

My job in analysis..  Observe patterns, find stuff that doesn't fit in, and figure out why, then correct it.  It happens to be something I'm pretty damn good at and made a career out of.  Granted, I do technology not assessments of personalities, but patterns are patterns and anomalies are anomalies, and this doesn't fit into scams for me.  I could very well be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, but one of very few.  

I'm not sure who that e-mail was sent to. One of lifeforcepools' customers sends me those e-mails occasionally.

My point is that Simon and Jennings have been lying so many times for so long that it's quite clear they never had a solid plan when they started to collect the money. That is about as fraudulent as it gets, barely short of "take the money and run". What if they couldn't "make the chips" at all? If they do somehow procure the chips will they have enough money to fulfill all orders? BFL made some miners too, doesn't make them any less scammy. Also MAT (another scam vendor Jennings was shilling for) - they delivered a few miners and went bankrupt.

Remember the "shipments went out, tracking numbers will be updated after the weekend" e-mail a couple of months ago? How does that work into the rest of the story? None of it can be trusted.

newbie
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Well, I have sent Simon the Sleeze email after email and nothing back......my opinion SCAMMER......DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH HASHRA, SIMON OR ANYONE HE IS ASSOCIATED WITH!!!!!
sr. member
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Poor business management in a very cutthroat society like mining is.

Did he fuck up?  ABSOLUTELY!!

Does he deserve to get beat up over the delays?  ABSOLUTELY!!

Is he a scammer?  I don't think so, as I mentioned above he doesn't fit the profile.  But I am pissed about the delays, just like a lot of others.

Just my 2 cents.

You have a very lenient definition of a "scam" then. Remember, he hasn't delivered ANYTHING since August last year. It will be a miracle if he comes up with something before 1 year anniversary. And the product would likely be overpriced and not meet specifications - if it's really Alcheminer it has almost twice Hashra's power consumption. In other words, if you lend me 1 Bitcoin until next month, then I drag it out for a year and pay you back 0.5 BTC, am I scammer or not? I could give you a very convincing sob story too, does that make me less of a scammer? Smiley

Then there is the lifeforcepools/Jennings guy lying at every turn (note the 5.5W figure in the e-mail below and my screenshot following that). BTW PayPal now gives 180 days for disputes, that's why he's dragging his feet.

Here's the e-mail:



5.5W at the chip level translates to 8.6W at the wall and in reality it's about 9-10W. Yes, I own Alcheminer hardware.

https://www.alcheminer.com/en/





My definition of scam, is a plan meant to defraud, that is implemented.  Nothing more, nothing less.

I didn't get that email, I'm curious as to why..  Huh

But, my impression from the delays so far, is that that is not the chip used.  Simon mentioned having issues getting chips made.  If he was using Alcheminer chips, he could have just bought them from Alcheminer, or straight from the foundry that made the Alcheminer chips..  Instead the word is that there was a problem with the first batch of chips, and the second batch was better but the board design was bad.  That doesn't add up to him using other known chips.  I'm thinking it was more of a comparison meant to show the hashra chips are more efficient.

My job in analysis..  Observe patterns, find stuff that doesn't fit in, and figure out why, then correct it.  It happens to be something I'm pretty damn good at and made a career out of.  Granted, I do technology not assessments of personalities, but patterns are patterns and anomalies are anomalies, and this doesn't fit into scams for me.  I could very well be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, but one of very few.  
legendary
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Poor business management in a very cutthroat society like mining is.

Did he fuck up?  ABSOLUTELY!!

Does he deserve to get beat up over the delays?  ABSOLUTELY!!

Is he a scammer?  I don't think so, as I mentioned above he doesn't fit the profile.  But I am pissed about the delays, just like a lot of others.

Just my 2 cents.

You have a very lenient definition of a "scam" then. Remember, he hasn't delivered ANYTHING since August last year. It will be a miracle if he comes up with something before 1 year anniversary. And the product would likely be overpriced and not meet specifications - if it's really Alcheminer it has almost twice Hashra's power consumption. In other words, if you lend me 1 Bitcoin until next month, then I drag it out for a year and pay you back 0.5 BTC, am I scammer or not? I could give you a very convincing sob story too, does that make me less of a scammer? Smiley

Then there is the lifeforcepools/Jennings guy lying at every turn (note the 5.5W figure in the e-mail below and my screenshot following that). BTW PayPal now gives 180 days for disputes, that's why he's dragging his feet.

Here's the e-mail:

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5.5W at the chip level translates to 8.6W at the wall and in reality it's about 9-10W. Yes, I own Alcheminer hardware.

https://www.alcheminer.com/en/

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Edited 2020-11-28 to fix a broken image

sr. member
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In his latest e-mail lifeforcepools / Jeff Jennings is suddenly talking about Alcheminer. Not sure where that came from but apparently he thinks that Hashra is "building" Scrypt miners using Alcheminer chips. If that's true (which is still doubtful given the sleazy nature of Mr. Jennings) then it's a good news / bad news kind of deal:

1) Good news is that Hashra actually has a chance to deliver something. Alcheminer is a real company with real products.

2) Bad news is everything else. Alcheminer is selling their own products at ~$5 per MH/s now so you could have just saved the money and purchased it now, delivered within a few business days instead of lending your money to Hashra for 9 months. Power consumption is nowhere near what was promised - Alcheminer is around 10W per MH/s, Hashra promised 6W per MH/s. Alcheminer software is awful, doesn't work with anything other than LTC mining (no multipools, no P2P).

So if all this is true then all these delays would turn out to be just a typical scam strategy of collecting money and waiting for the technology to catch up without actually doing anything. Perhaps the original idea was to use Zeus Volcano, which was cancelled. Now the best case scenario is an overpriced substitute with nearly twice the promised power consumption.

Interesting..  I'm also on the lifeforce email list, and haven't received an email that says anything about alcheminer.  Can you post yours?

Now, I also have a thought on whether the Astros thing is actually a scam.  Bear with me for a minute, as I've been on the internet for 20 years now, and ran across quite a few scams.

There is a pattern that is typical among scammers.  They build on hype, then take the money and run.

Credit cards have a 30 day policy for chargebacks and paypal has a 45 day policy about chargebacks, while bitcoin is still a wild frontier and basically has none.  This means that after 45 days, all the pre-purchases for the Astros are basically non-refundable.

If the Astros were a scam, Simon could have run off with all the pre-order money months ago, and just disappeared from the internet, to reappear with a new identity that he could have purchased with the money from the pre-orders.  Yet, he still answers emails, even though he shut his website down.

What is his benefit, were he to be a scammer, to keep answering all this time?  His website is down, therefore there are no more sales to be made with the exception of them still being listed on lifeforce, and lifeforce is only known to a small part of the mining community.  So, there's really no more sales to be made, if a buyer does a google search and finds out about delays.

So, why is he still responding?

Here's my take..  Simon, had a great idea and acted on it, but totally underestimated the complication and difficulties involved in the project..  The problem is, he runs Hashra as a 1 man operation.  He got in way over his head, and instead of hiring someone else with the skill and connections to do the stuff he couldn't handle on his own, he just plowed ahead on his own because of the budget he set for himself by pre-selling a new technology miner at such a low price.  Adding in the Chinese engineering and construction of these units, which in theory is cheap but in reality is a nightmare, he shot himself in the foot.  Actually, both feet, and knees.

That doesn't make him a scammer, just ignorant of the realities of what he got himself involved in.

Poor business management in a very cutthroat society like mining is.

Did he fuck up?  ABSOLUTELY!!

Does he deserve to get beat up over the delays?  ABSOLUTELY!!

Is he a scammer?  I don't think so, as I mentioned above he doesn't fit the profile.  But I am pissed about the delays, just like a lot of others.

Just my 2 cents.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
In his latest e-mail lifeforcepools / Jeff Jennings is suddenly talking about Alcheminer. Not sure where that came from but apparently he thinks that Hashra is "building" Scrypt miners using Alcheminer chips. If that's true (which is still doubtful given the sleazy nature of Mr. Jennings) then it's a good news / bad news kind of deal:

1) Good news is that Hashra actually has a chance to deliver something. Alcheminer is a real company with real products.

2) Bad news is everything else. Alcheminer is selling their own products at ~$5 per MH/s now so you could have just saved the money and purchased it now, delivered within a few business days instead of lending your money to Hashra for 9 months. Power consumption is nowhere near what was promised - Alcheminer is around 10W per MH/s, Hashra promised 6W per MH/s. Alcheminer software is awful, doesn't work with anything other than LTC mining (no multipools, no P2P).

So if all this is true then all these delays would turn out to be just a typical scam strategy of collecting money and waiting for the technology to catch up without actually doing anything. Perhaps the original idea was to use Zeus Volcano, which was cancelled. Now the best case scenario is an overpriced substitute with nearly twice the promised power consumption.
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Straight rip off, its been over 9 months now.. money is gone.
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file legal actions listed in this thread and others.
legendary
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Anyone surprised by this?

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From: HASHRA <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: status report
To: Lifeforcepools <[email protected]>


Hi Jeff,

I sincerely apologize for the delay in getting you a status, but we have been working around the clock on the assembly, machines and most importantly testing.

Where we stand right now is that about 50% of the chips were unstable.
We had to test everything thoroughly and the news wasn't great, about 50% of those were also unstable.

We know the chip and the boards can work fine as we have being testing it with exactly the same specifications before but since this batch of chips have been made we have had stability issues with them after 48 hours of testing.

I know this is a real pain for everyone but we have to keep testing to figure out if we need new chips produced or we can use these for at least some of the machines. You will be first to know as we come to some conclusions.

Please bare with us for a few days till we have some more concrete news.

Sorry Jeff.

Simon
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