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Quote from: blockman on April 12, 2021, 05:18:51 PM

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A bit heroic if I'm going to be honest, not everyday do you see someone patting someone else's shoulder to keep them from doing something they may regret in the future. And frankly speaking, I wouldn't do that personally. I have bad experiences about giving advice, so to tell someone what to do with their money while they are in the climax of their addiction is probably not the best thing to do, at least for me.

That's also my worry, you don't engage with gamblers with that randomly if you don't know them. Can give a few talks to give them some reminder but wouldn't go full as if you're friends with them. You might even get scolded and they'll say to mind your own business.

Not really that much confident on dealing with unknown people and trying to speak up something regarding on what theyre doing.Its their own money man and who the hell
are you to mandate or do tell them on what to do with their own money? You dont have the rights on saying or making some reminders because not all people would really
be that cool or approachable.I cant really just afford that someone would just tell me on minding my own business, thats why i dont really care on what they would gonna
do into their stuff.Its their own lives and you should be aware on the risk before you had play gambling.

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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on April 12, 2021, 04:54:06 PM

A bit heroic if I'm going to be honest, not everyday do you see someone patting someone else's shoulder to keep them from doing something they may regret in the future. And frankly speaking, I wouldn't do that personally. I have bad experiences about giving advice, so to tell someone what to do with their money while they are in the climax of their addiction is probably not the best thing to do, at least for me.

That's also my worry, you don't engage with gamblers with that randomly if you don't know them. Can give a few talks to give them some reminder but wouldn't go full as if you're friends with them. You might even get scolded and they'll say to mind your own business.

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A bit heroic if I'm going to be honest, not everyday do you see someone patting someone else's shoulder to keep them from doing something they may regret in the future. And frankly speaking, I wouldn't do that personally. I have bad experiences about giving advice, so to tell someone what to do with their money while they are in the climax of their addiction is probably not the best thing to do, at least for me.

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I have series of them in my list that i have helped while they keep on losing, the most recent was a close associate who's seriously addicted into casinos and couldn't make a reverse in life. Basically, helping them sometimes seem worthless especially when they have been addicted into these games, they can be help while still on the surface, but those who are deeper into the addiction can't be help as my conclusion.

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Quote from: romero121 on April 09, 2021, 01:31:25 AM

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I tried it couple of times especially in old days when horse races were very popular. I saw many people there losing huge amount of money. I was sort of young kid so when I warned adults they would laugh at me like "relaxed kid nothing bad will happen" was reply I regularly had. Nostalgic...

The adult people will not listen to kids, especially if they are busy with what they did.
The horse races are an exciting activity and really need a big effort to remind them not to place the bet many times.
If they know the risk of placing the bets, they will regret and will not try to do that thing.
But well, what we can say if they are addicted to gambling and still playing gambling even if we already remind them.
Maybe they need to realize by themselves, maybe after they lose big money, but that will not make them stop gambling in a short time. Maybe they still need more time to stop gambling.

Even after such losses people won't stay away or take a break out of gambling. They realize what they've done is wrong, but they weren't able to give a pause. This is where we need to help them and give support or make them deviate towards something else. In such occasions majority of them will loss further whereas a very few succeed recovering the losses.

Yes, they will continue playing gambling because they think that the next game will be their chance to win and recover their lose.
It is hard to tell them to stop and do not playing gambling every day because we do not know how much money we will spend and how big our lose in gambling.
But we still need to help them and always remind them, especially if that person is one of our best friend or our closest family.
We could hope that they will finally realize that they are make a mistake by always playing gambling and want to leave gambling before it is too late.

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I tried it couple of times especially in old days when horse races were very popular. I saw many people there losing huge amount of money. I was sort of young kid so when I warned adults they would laugh at me like "relaxed kid nothing bad will happen" was reply I regularly had. Nostalgic...

The adult people will not listen to kids, especially if they are busy with what they did.
The horse races are an exciting activity and really need a big effort to remind them not to place the bet many times.
If they know the risk of placing the bets, they will regret and will not try to do that thing.
But well, what we can say if they are addicted to gambling and still playing gambling even if we already remind them.
Maybe they need to realize by themselves, maybe after they lose big money, but that will not make them stop gambling in a short time. Maybe they still need more time to stop gambling.

Even after such losses people won't stay away or take a break out of gambling. They realize what they've done is wrong, but they weren't able to give a pause. This is where we need to help them and give support or make them deviate towards something else. In such occasions majority of them will loss further whereas a very few succeed recovering the losses.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 07, 2021, 08:26:44 AM

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I tried it couple of times especially in old days when horse races were very popular. I saw many people there losing huge amount of money. I was sort of young kid so when I warned adults they would laugh at me like "relaxed kid nothing bad will happen" was reply I regularly had. Nostalgic...

The adult people will not listen to kids, especially if they are busy with what they did.
The horse races are an exciting activity and really need a big effort to remind them not to place the bet many times.
If they know the risk of placing the bets, they will regret and will not try to do that thing.
But well, what we can say if they are addicted to gambling and still playing gambling even if we already remind them.
Maybe they need to realize by themselves, maybe after they lose big money, but that will not make them stop gambling in a short time. Maybe they still need more time to stop gambling.

It takes time before they'll completely realize those mistakes that they've done in life.

Gambling is really a pain in the ass if a person turns to heavy addicted gambler, it takes a lots of time and lots of money to spend before they'll
see those worse things that they've done.

When they finally realize it, the damages are already huge.

If they can realize those mistakes, if they can not, they will not change their life better because they will not think that their life is a mistake and if they do not change their habit, they will end by losing everything.
No matter if children or adult people tell them to stop gambling, they should listen because that is for their own good.
Yes, it is a pain in the ass if someone becomes a heavily addicted gambler because he never thinks about the money, the time, and his life.
We hope that we do not become addicted to gambling and will have control of ourselves in gambling.
I already tried stop my friend not to playing gambling too often and fortunately, he can listen to me and promise me not to playing gambling.

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Quote from: traderethereum on April 07, 2021, 08:04:01 AM

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I tried it couple of times especially in old days when horse races were very popular. I saw many people there losing huge amount of money. I was sort of young kid so when I warned adults they would laugh at me like "relaxed kid nothing bad will happen" was reply I regularly had. Nostalgic...

The adult people will not listen to kids, especially if they are busy with what they did.
The horse races are an exciting activity and really need a big effort to remind them not to place the bet many times.
If they know the risk of placing the bets, they will regret and will not try to do that thing.
But well, what we can say if they are addicted to gambling and still playing gambling even if we already remind them.
Maybe they need to realize by themselves, maybe after they lose big money, but that will not make them stop gambling in a short time. Maybe they still need more time to stop gambling.

It takes time before they'll completely realize those mistakes that they've done in life.

Gambling is really a pain in the ass if a person turns to heavy addicted gambler, it takes a lots of time and lots of money to spend before they'll
see those worse things that they've done.

When they finally realize it, the damages are already huge.

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I tried it couple of times especially in old days when horse races were very popular. I saw many people there losing huge amount of money. I was sort of young kid so when I warned adults they would laugh at me like "relaxed kid nothing bad will happen" was reply I regularly had. Nostalgic...

The adult people will not listen to kids, especially if they are busy with what they did.
The horse races are an exciting activity and really need a big effort to remind them not to place the bet many times.
If they know the risk of placing the bets, they will regret and will not try to do that thing.
But well, what we can say if they are addicted to gambling and still playing gambling even if we already remind them.
Maybe they need to realize by themselves, maybe after they lose big money, but that will not make them stop gambling in a short time. Maybe they still need more time to stop gambling.

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I tried it couple of times especially in old days when horse races were very popular. I saw many people there losing huge amount of money. I was sort of young kid so when I warned adults they would laugh at me like "relaxed kid nothing bad will happen" was reply I regularly had. Nostalgic...

- Advice from family also does not have too much of an effect on gamblers, a stranger like you won't yield any more results, most likely they'll just smile and say nothing then leave everything behind, don't think that they don't understand the harms of gambling, you are one of the many people who wanted and tried to advise them but somewhere in them, a thought of victory still appeared. Preventing from very early would be viable for treating and disposing of gambling but most of the gamblers' families were always disappointed with them and let them go on their own way of destruction

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Quote from: nelson4lov on March 28, 2021, 09:13:35 AM

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There are too many variables to really pin down the root cause of why somebody gambles. People may gamble out of desperation, boredom, entertainment, socializing, or any number of reasons. Ultimately the only way to stop a gambler is education and if they are able to achieve a level of stability within their lives. One way to look at it is the simple fact that gambling operations are a business, they have overheads like staff, server bills or advertising. They have a minimal amount of expenses that they will be covering and that must come from the average be paying for it - Vegas was not built on winners. Until you start to fully understand the mathematics behind these operations it is easy to throw away money on long shots. Beyond that, people must be in a situation where they can control their emotions and build a long term financial plan that does not involve shortcuts.

Ultimately it is a conclusion that the individual has to make on their own and outside forces can achieve very little.

You just hit the nail on the head. It's a known fact that the best way one can get something done is when they can do these things by themselves. If the gambler in question is not able to limit him/her self from going haywire, then there's only very little that others can do. I once had a friend who was constantly gambling even with funds that weren't his own. Despite my advices, he always go back to placing bets. Why? He kept on thinking that his time to win was coming and he wouldn't let anyone or anything (like my advices) stop him. Such persons are difficult to stop from gambling unless they get rid of such beliefs themselves.

What you are saying is completely right but at the same time it is not easy at all to see a friend or a family member destroying their lives and do nothing while they do so, I think it is a very common human reaction to try to stop them, and as you say in the majority of the cases they are not going to listen however there is going to be a minority of people that will wonder why their families or friends are trying to discourage them from this behaviour and that is when they are going to get that they are doing something wrong and correct their behaviour, it is a long shot but it is something worth doing.

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Quote from: hahay on March 28, 2021, 09:26:24 AM

Of course I have experienced things like this because after all when we are new to gambling, usually winning is still easy to get at least that's what I experienced. But unfortunately, it causes the greed to continue to increase which we are not aware of and are not trying to stop. So I suppose, choosing to quit gambling when he gets a big win is basically still doable but at least he should have some previous experience.

greed is a basic human trait that is difficult to control...
Thinking that luck will stay in hand and not stop even when the victory is big is the beginning of the destruction. There have been many cases where those who are too greedy at the gambling table end up with losses and even debts. before gambling do not forget to get rid of greediness.

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Quote from: romero121 on March 28, 2021, 02:25:40 PM

Quote from: newwest on March 28, 2021, 12:53:04 PM

We friends had gone for a trip and did gambling as well. So, one of the friends got too much excited instead of winning a good amount greediness was not allowing him to stop. We told him to encash so that it will help him only but, in the end, he lost half the amount of his profits and then gave up. Still he was in profits so that was a better thing.

Thats awesome man, because if you people haven't restricted he could've lost everything including the capital. Just because you stopped him and come out at the right occasion made the day enjoyable. We the users next to the gamblers should have an eye over them, because money can change the mind in any direction. Some even end the life once after losing, and we should not let it happen around us.

It would be very nice if the people we give advice can listen to our words. From my experience, there are some gamblers who don't want to listen to advice from others (even those closest to them). Usually, when they have won, they will feel puffed up and feel they will get the win continuously, so even though we have repeatedly given the advice to quit, they will not pay attention (for them it is not worth listening to).

They don't realize, those wins have become addictive and if they remain trapped in the obsessions then all they have won will vanish. Usually, such people like this will only realize when it runs out of everything.

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Quote from: hahay on March 28, 2021, 09:26:24 AM

Of course I have experienced things like this because after all when we were new to gambling, usually winning is still easy to get at least that's what I experienced. But unfortunately, it causes the greed to continue to increase which we are not aware of and are not trying to stop. So I suppose, choosing to quit gambling when he gets a big win is basically still doable but at least he should have some previous experience.

I think the winning when one is new is totally a perspective issue rather than reality, because when we are new, we didn't have a hell lot of debts, a big hole in our finances and money that we wanna recover, so any win automatically psychologically makes us think a big win, but as we progress then we become aware of the addiction and how it had cost us so much than we expected and then if fortunate we leave the addiction completely and become free from its clutches recovering slowly the money in a good way

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Quote from: hahay on March 28, 2021, 09:26:24 AM

Of course I have experienced things like this because after all when we are new to gambling, usually winning is still easy to get at least that's what I experienced. But unfortunately, it causes the greed to continue to increase which we are not aware of and are not trying to stop. So I suppose, choosing to quit gambling when he gets a big win is basically still doable but at least he should have some previous experience.

When winning big seems not the case for some loss because the hunger of getting some big wins will cause the bettor to spend all of the money he has and when it all finished up, he will think of some way on how to get his money back and at the same time how to get those big winning like the other people. It's never-ending greed you know. they should know what to do if they feel those kinds of feelings and that will not get them any good in the future if they don't fix it now.

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Quote from: Swopon on March 28, 2021, 09:10:50 PM

Definitely, I have some experience on gambling. At the very beginning, I thought it's easy to win and I won too. But after few matches, I noticed I am not winning like before and getting triggered to win as I am getting greedy. Then I stop it and not get regular in gambling. Still I like esports gambling but not regular. I do it as fun and still I lose.

That is normal if we thought it's easy to win in gambling games because it looks simple and easy to win. But we never think that by playing that simple game, we can get drag too deep into gambling, and that will be the sign to us to become addicted to gambling. When we win that game, we become greedy and want more winning, which happens to most gamblers. But having control and reminds us of other people around us will prevent us from becoming addicting to gambling. We can warn other people not to lose their money too much in gambling because that is not worth it. But if they do not want to listen to us, we do not have to force them to follow us.

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Quote from: Swopon on March 28, 2021, 09:10:50 PM

Definitely, I have some experience on gambling. At the very beginning, I thought it's easy to win and I won too. But after few matches, I noticed I am not winning like before and getting triggered to win as I am getting greedy. Then I stop it and not get regular in gambling. Still I like esports gambling but not regular. I do it as fun and still I lose.

Did you read and understand the Thread? OP is asking about Us stopping others from gambling when they are still Playing/wagering .

Sometimes it pays a lot if we will read everything and not just the title , Spammer..

Quote from: newwest on March 28, 2021, 12:53:04 PM

We friends had gone for a trip and did gambling as well. So, one of the friends got too much excited instead of winning a good amount greediness was not allowing him to stop. We told him to encash so that it will help him only but, in the end, he lost half the amount of his profits and then gave up. Still he was in profits so that was a better thing.

That's why it is really a hard task to try stopping them while playing because if we will apply to our self? we will do the same thing considering that we are still wagering and winning .

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Definitely, I have some experience on gambling. At the very beginning, I thought it's easy to win and I won too. But after few matches, I noticed I am not winning like before and getting triggered to win as I am getting greedy. Then I stop it and not get regular in gambling. Still I like esports gambling but not regular. I do it as fun and still I lose.

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Quote from: newwest on March 28, 2021, 12:53:04 PM

We friends had gone for a trip and did gambling as well. So, one of the friends got too much excited instead of winning a good amount greediness was not allowing him to stop. We told him to encash so that it will help him only but, in the end, he lost half the amount of his profits and then gave up. Still he was in profits so that was a better thing.

Thats awesome man, because if you people haven't restricted he could've lost everything including the capital. Just because you stopped him and come out at the right occasion made the day enjoyable. We the users next to the gamblers should have an eye over them, because money can change the mind in any direction. Some even end the life once after losing, and we should not let it happen around us.

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