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Quote from: pinggoki on March 28, 2021, 02:37:39 PM

Actually on the first place you must have an enough funds in order for you to return or buyback in the game so that you may be able too get again the money that you've been lose. To be honest it is very hard to stop a gambler who is keep on losing especially if they are triggered to get back again their winnings and this is greediness so what we need to do is to control our emotions and don't let this emotions get over on us.

No question about that, it's natural to anyone, trying to recover back your losses, you become more aggressive you begin to go out of control, greediness most of the time is the reason behind or some are also lack of self control instead of enjoying it turned against you, stopping someone who are suffering to this kind of situation is unappropriate.

The emotions inside are already mixing up, they can blame you once they suffer for another loss, better not to bother them and let them control everything.

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Actually on the first place you must have an enough funds in order for you to return or buyback in the game so that you may be able too get again the money that you've been lose. To be honest it is very hard to stop a gambler who is keep on losing especially if they are triggered to get back again their winnings and this is greediness so what we need to do is to control our emotions and don't let this emotions get over on us.

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We friends had gone for a trip and did gambling as well. So, one of the friends got too much excited instead of winning a good amount greediness was not allowing him to stop. We told him to encash so that it will help him only but, in the end, he lost half the amount of his profits and then gave up. Still he was in profits so that was a better thing.

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Quote from: hahay on March 28, 2021, 10:26:24 AM

Of course I have experienced things like this because after all when we are new to gambling, usually winning is still easy to get at least that's what I experienced. But unfortunately, it causes the greed to continue to increase which we are not aware of and are not trying to stop. So I suppose, choosing to quit gambling when he gets a big win is basically still doable but at least he should have some previous experience.

Yeah, at first gambling can't be predicted whether we will gain profit or not that's why we still keep going on and can't predict if our lives will be still good after it.

And besides, if the person doesn't know how to control themselves then the chances of high loss are very high.

Don't be a high wager if you can't accept incase you lose that money.

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Of course I have experienced things like this because after all when we are new to gambling, usually winning is still easy to get at least that's what I experienced. But unfortunately, it causes the greed to continue to increase which we are not aware of and are not trying to stop. So I suppose, choosing to quit gambling when he gets a big win is basically still doable but at least he should have some previous experience.

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Quote from: Fortify on March 28, 2021, 09:44:27 AM

There are too many variables to really pin down the root cause of why somebody gambles. People may gamble out of desperation, boredom, entertainment, socializing, or any number of reasons. Ultimately the only way to stop a gambler is education and if they are able to achieve a level of stability within their lives. One way to look at it is the simple fact that gambling operations are a business, they have overheads like staff, server bills or advertising. They have a minimal amount of expenses that they will be covering and that must come from the average be paying for it - Vegas was not built on winners. Until you start to fully understand the mathematics behind these operations it is easy to throw away money on long shots. Beyond that, people must be in a situation where they can control their emotions and build a long term financial plan that does not involve shortcuts.

Ultimately it is a conclusion that the individual has to make on their own and outside forces can achieve very little.

You just hit the nail on the head. It's a known fact that the best way one can get something done is when they can do these things by themselves. If the gambler in question is not able to limit him/her self from going haywire, then there's only very little that others can do. I once had a friend who was constantly gambling even with funds that weren't his own. Despite my advices, he always go back to placing bets. Why? He kept on thinking that his time to win was coming and he wouldn't let anyone or anything (like my advices) stop him. Such persons are difficult to stop from gambling unless they get rid of such beliefs themselves.

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A progressive increase in the rate will lead to the loss of the entire bankroll or deposit. It is best not to play for the wager in this way, I think the big players who make the wager in casino tournaments are all in a negative profit. The best thing that can be, if you want to play, just allocate a small amount to play in the casino and immediately tell yourself that I will lose this amount today and there will be no attempts to return the deposit.

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There are too many variables to really pin down the root cause of why somebody gambles. People may gamble out of desperation, boredom, entertainment, socializing, or any number of reasons. Ultimately the only way to stop a gambler is education and if they are able to achieve a level of stability within their lives. One way to look at it is the simple fact that gambling operations are a business, they have overheads like staff, server bills or advertising. They have a minimal amount of expenses that they will be covering and that must come from the average be paying for it - Vegas was not built on winners. Until you start to fully understand the mathematics behind these operations it is easy to throw away money on long shots. Beyond that, people must be in a situation where they can control their emotions and build a long term financial plan that does not involve shortcuts.

Ultimately it is a conclusion that the individual has to make on their own and outside forces can achieve very little.

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Quote from: TedMosby on March 28, 2021, 02:32:28 AM

it usually happened to me too. thankfully, I only used a small amount of money.
that condition usually occurs when you lose a bet, start to increase your stake, hoping to recover instantly.
and then until a certain amount of bets, you are impatient, starts thinking about all-in or nothing.
the rest, surely you know what happens Grin

I am not good at gambling but I believe you guys agree that we need to have a target (win/lose) for sustainable profit growth (if you are good and lucky enough) and mental health in gambling.

That is good if you only used small money because we do not want to have a big loss in gambling. Although we use small money, we can still have fun playing gambling games, and I think that will be better than using big money because the chance for us to have a big loss will be bigger.

We should know ourselves in the gambling game so that we can prevent ourselves from losing. But it still difficult to have a target (win/lose), as you said, because I am not sure if we can reach the target by winning some money. So if you see your friend or other people still want to play gambling because of chasing the winning, you can tell them not to do that because that will not be easy to win.

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I see two problems here. 1) You don't know how the person will react if you try to make them stop. 2) Even if you get him to stop playing at that moment, if he is a person who has self-control problems, he is going to end up losing more than he should at another moment.

So I think it's not worth it because you risk him having a bad reaction and you don't solve anything.

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Quote from: TedMosby on March 28, 2021, 02:32:28 AM

it usually happened to me too. thankfully, I only used a small amount of money.
that condition usually occurs when you lose a bet, start to increase your stake, hoping to recover instantly.
and then until a certain amount of bets, you are impatient, starts thinking about all-in or nothing.
the rest, surely you know what happens Grin

I am not good at gambling but I believe you guys agree that we need to have a target (win/lose) for sustainable profit growth (if you are good and lucky enough) and mental health in gambling.

I had similar problems when starting out with gambling. Your approach of setting fixed limits on how much we can gamble is very good. Controlling our losses is the most important thing in. I opinion. We need to actively manage our bankroll so we don't end up going bankrupt. Losing can always happen but as long as we have capital left to start again we can make the money back. Helping others to stop gambling after a losing session is honorable and we should all try to help our friends.

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it usually happened to me too. thankfully, I only used a small amount of money.
that condition usually occurs when you lose a bet, start to increase your stake, hoping to recover instantly.
and then until a certain amount of bets, you are impatient, starts thinking about all-in or nothing.
the rest, surely you know what happens Grin

I am not good at gambling but I believe you guys agree that we need to have a target (win/lose) for sustainable profit growth (if you are good and lucky enough) and mental health in gambling.

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Quote from: boyptc on March 27, 2021, 01:37:24 PM

It will somehow help that person that there's someone who worries for them. But if it won't help them and they choose to continue. You've done your part.

Indeed, a piece of advice is enough to remind him/her of the possible mistakes he might commit.

If he continue then its his choice already and we should not be feel guilty if he keeps on wagering. Because we cant stop him for doing what he think is right at the moment especially if he is already losing.

We know if you're in that situation there's a part in your mind eager to recover what you've lost.

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Quote from: boyptc on March 27, 2021, 01:37:24 PM

Quote from: XZERO1 on March 27, 2021, 09:40:45 AM

Yep, it really depends on the person, but in more serious cases I'm not sure just talking to the person to stop them from gambling more won't help.

It will somehow help that person that there's someone who worries for them. But if it won't help them and they choose to continue. You've done your part.

It's not your fault if they will keep to do what they wish to do. It's their choice whether they continue and win or lose and stop.

Exactly, even if you know that trying to stop that person from ruining their life has very low chances of succeeding you still need to try, if they accept your advice and decide to get professional help then you have help them to recover from their addiction faster and with less damage to themselves and their family so it is worth to try, but if it does not work and the person keeps gambling and does not listen at least you know that you did your part and now it is up to him to realize his mistakes.

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Quote from: XZERO1 on March 27, 2021, 09:40:45 AM

Yep, it really depends on the person, but in more serious cases I'm not sure just talking to the person to stop them from gambling more won't help.

It will somehow help that person that there's someone who worries for them. But if it won't help them and they choose to continue. You've done your part.

It's not your fault if they will keep to do what they wish to do. It's their choice whether they continue and win or lose and stop.

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This is a very noble act to carry out by a compassionate previous losser (No offense, I don't mean it like that in the context of the word but rather as an experienced gambler that has made some huge lose). Sadly, this advices are more than often not being payed heed to by the gambler being cautioned on his or her gambling habit. The habit of increasing wagers with the hope of winning huge and eventually covering all loses has been a delusion that would forever hunt inexperienced gamblers and live them in the had I known, I should have listened situation. I've tried a few times but the responses has always being mind your business and so I paused.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on March 23, 2021, 02:32:32 AM

Won't interfering with someone even if they are losing so much a bit rude and could cause altercations or commotion? I mean I know that it sounds like you are helping them but sometimes there are things that aren't worth intervening especially if you don't know that person or you are not an authority. If it isn't rude to do that then a lot of people should have done it a long time ago.

Yep, it really depends on the person, but in more serious cases I'm not sure just talking to the person to stop them from gambling more won't help.

You have to understand that most of these people that just obsessively gamble more and more and get even worse when they lose have serious addiction problem, and you can not just remove that addiction part from them by just talking alone and they could need serious help, in some minor cases when the person is just new to gambling and don't quite know the rules that's different, and you probably could help them to not go down the path of just gambling more whenever they get into a loss and learn to take a break when needed.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on March 23, 2021, 02:32:32 AM

Won't interfering with someone even if they are losing so much a bit rude and could cause altercations or commotion? I mean I know that it sounds like you are helping them but sometimes there are things that aren't worth intervening especially if you don't know that person or you are not an authority. If it isn't rude to do that then a lot of people should have done it a long time ago.

If that person is your friend or a family member then you have to try to help them even when you know this could cause a confrontation and that it may not work, we know that in order for people to overcome an addiction they need to have the desire and it needs to come from within them, if that desire is not present then it does not matter what you do you will be unable to help them, this means that sometimes the only thing you can do is to let them hit rock bottom and hope they finally understand that their lives cannot keep going in this direction.

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Quote from: michellee on March 23, 2021, 01:53:09 AM

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Quote from: michellee on March 22, 2021, 01:01:33 AM

We can tell them how hard to recover their losses in gambling games, so we already give suggestions to them not to try to recover. If they are wise to see the situations, they will listen to our suggestion and force themselves to recover.

But mostly, they won't. While putting yourself in their shoe, you're likely to feel what they're feeling that there's a need to recover and that will make them do whatever it takes just to recover.

Yeah, they won't easily accept the suggestion instead to continue playing gambling. I wish they can understand that we really care about them and we do not want to see them lose more money. I still suggest them and explain not trying to recover the losses because we do not know if they can even recover the losses.

Once that you have already told what you want to say, that's already enough. No need to elaborate if they will understand that you're concern or not. And it's up to them if they will appreciate you in that manner.

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Quote from: michellee on March 22, 2021, 01:01:33 AM

No, we do not have to drag them out from the gambling because that can trigger a fight between us. But we can tell them, and the rest will be up to them.

As long as you do your part of reminding it, that's already the point and zone of telling them what they must do if it's not working anymore.

That will be their responsibility to listen to our suggestion or not because no matter what, we can not force them to quit gambling unless they can see by themselves that playing gambling will make them lose more money.

There's no need to force them right and as I've said, once is enough and you have already did your part and share of being concerned to them.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on March 23, 2021, 02:32:32 AM

Won't interfering with someone even if they are losing so much a bit rude and could cause altercations or commotion? I mean I know that it sounds like you are helping them but sometimes there are things that aren't worth intervening especially if you don't know that person or you are not an authority. If it isn't rude to do that then a lot of people should have done it a long time ago.

I would have acted the same even though you do really like to advise a particular gambler but it is really not our right to intervene knowing that its not our money that he had been spending
on his gambling activity.Just let him be and i do understand that some people do really have just concern because of some past experiences or whatsoever but its better to leave them
alone because we dont really know on whats inside up into their minds.We dont even know if they are rich enough to afford on losing those money that he had spent.
So better to mind your own gameplays or actions before someone else.

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