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If you're not earning your own money yet and still relying on your parents for finances, you should not gamble. Because that money is probably meant for your studies or other needs and not to be spend in gambling. It's quite normal for parents to be strict since gambling can really influence us negatively if we can't control ourselves. Especially if you're still a student, it can affect your studies once you became hooked to this activity.

So don't wait to be threaten by your loved ones. Be open and listen because they're just concern.

In order to gamble at minimum we need three things, they are the mental maturity to gamble, understanding of the probabilities behind the games and our own money, and it is obvious a kid or a young person does not has a single one of the minimum requirements to gamble.

As they are not mature enough to take decisions with their money, they do not understand gambling at all and they do not even have their own money, as whatever money they have on hand was given to them by their parents with an express purpose, so it is obvious they should stay away from gambling until they fulfill those requirements.

There are intelligent or genius kids. These kids can act or think maturely. It's also possible for our kids to be taught about the risks in gambling. Lastly, we can give money to our kids as a gift, not only for their birthdays but also if they do something great like having a perfect score in their exams. These money can now be considered as their own and they can now spend it to any things that they like.

I think there is no such law that says that we must only gamble using our own funds. There's even some who steal, ask money to someone else, and borrow money to a lending platform just to play gambling, however some gambling places has a minimum age requirement.

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If you're not earning your own money yet and still relying on your parents for finances, you should not gamble.

Good point, in situations like this, it is strongly advised to stop gambling or not to even start because one is not yet independent financially, if a child get used to gambling being dependent, he may try to steal from his parents whenever he want to gamble and have no money.

Quote from: shogun47 on July 19, 2023, 05:22:44 PM

Because that money is probably meant for your studies or other needs and not to be spend in gambling.

Many gamblers have been found in many related issues associated to fund mismanagement and diversion on gambling when the money is targeted for their school fees or money belonging to other people in their possession, but when someone knows how hard it is to earn money, they value it and make good utilization of it, even if they gambles, it will be on caution.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 19, 2023, 01:03:40 PM

20-30 minutes of gambling a day is nothing serious and dangerous (if it doesn't lead to a desire to gamble and spend more), but if his wife has already encountered gamblers in her life, she may think otherwise. As everyone knows, relatives of alcoholics/drug addicts who have experienced the horrors of severe forms of addiction are extremely negative about even "responsible" use, the same with gambling.

I am not sure I would agree with the 20-30 minutes of gambling as a good rule of thumb. If you manage to lose your daily salary in those 20-30 minutes on a daily basis, it is not a very good idea to consider the 20-30 minutes as nothing serious or dangerous. Wink

To tell whether gambling is harmful for someone's life, I think financial and especially existential consequences are what's important. Sure social consequences are as well, for example when somebody doesn't really lose any money, but locks himself away for 8 hours a day just for gambling. But bad financial consequences are what destroys life in all regards.

I thought it was obvious, so I did not specify this option separately Cheesy

As for the social/existential consequences, this is a complex topic - and it can be applied to any hobby or kind of action (or even inaction - like a girl choosing to live for herself, without family and children). I think in such topics it is generally impossible to come to some kind of "common/rational" opinion.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on July 19, 2023, 05:18:30 PM

Yes, that's right. There are people who will continue playing even there's an already threat and they will not mind it as they will
wanted to fill what they wanted.

People who already have a deep engagement with gambling are hard to change mind, whatever the reason behind it, they will
insist on the needs of playing/betting.

Most of the time, those are people who turned themselves into addicted gambler, tough to convince to stop.

That's right. People who have gambled for a long time and may already be addicted to gambling will not want to listen to other people's advice or words because gambling is an important thing that can give them pleasure. They also don't care about threats from other people, even from their wives, to stop gambling immediately because they already think that gambling is a part of themselves that is difficult to separate. If that happens, maybe the only way for them is to divorce because his wife can't see her family going bankrupt and destroyed. After all, her husband doesn't want to listen to her advice. Her husband also cannot stop gambling or at least tries to reduce his gambling so that if his husband continues to gamble, he can experience a loss he never imagined.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 19, 2023, 01:03:40 PM

Quote from: abel1337 on July 19, 2023, 11:05:07 AM

But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Gambling 2-3 hours a week is very common because it is very short time. which is 25-26 minutes per day. In this short period of time it is possible to gamble away from people's eyes because gambling can be done very easily on a smartphone and anywhere. by following this strategy no one will become addicted to gambling and no one will even know about it. and it doesn't even require threats from anyone. But if a person gambles for a long time then he becomes addicted and everyone knows about his gambling in which case he may face threats from his relatives or family members

20-30 minutes of gambling a day is nothing serious and dangerous (if it doesn't lead to a desire to gamble and spend more), but if his wife has already encountered gamblers in her life, she may think otherwise. As everyone knows, relatives of alcoholics/drug addicts who have experienced the horrors of severe forms of addiction are extremely negative about even "responsible" use, the same with gambling.

I am not sure I would agree with the 20-30 minutes of gambling as a good rule of thumb. If you manage to lose your daily salary in those 20-30 minutes on a daily basis, it is not a very good idea to consider the 20-30 minutes as nothing serious or dangerous. Wink

To tell whether gambling is harmful for someone's life, I think financial and especially existential consequences are what's important. Sure social consequences are as well, for example when somebody doesn't really lose any money, but locks himself away for 8 hours a day just for gambling. But bad financial consequences are what destroys life in all regards.

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But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Gambling 2-3 hours a week is very common because it is very short time. which is 25-26 minutes per day. In this short period of time it is possible to gamble away from people's eyes because gambling can be done very easily on a smartphone and anywhere. by following this strategy no one will become addicted to gambling and no one will even know about it. and it doesn't even require threats from anyone. But if a person gambles for a long time then he becomes addicted and everyone knows about his gambling in which case he may face threats from his relatives or family members

To be honest it's a short amount of time even or a non-addict. It's just like you play a one game on of your favorite online game, it is that short to be honest. I think I can't consider playing 30 mins a day an addict, I can see that person as a regular gambler who are just trying to do a past time or finding entertainment on gambling. If we recieve such threats, it's not worth it, I would probably stop doing gambling if I'm not that addicted but yeah there are people who are addicted that even a threat won't faze them.

Yes, that's right. There are people who will continue playing even there's an already threat and they will not mind it as they will
wanted to fill what they wanted.

People who already have a deep engagement with gambling are hard to change mind, whatever the reason behind it, they will
insist on the needs of playing/betting.

Most of the time, those are people who turned themselves into addicted gambler, tough to convince to stop.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on July 19, 2023, 12:38:24 PM

But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Gambling 2-3 hours a week is very common because it is very short time. which is 25-26 minutes per day. In this short period of time it is possible to gamble away from people's eyes because gambling can be done very easily on a smartphone and anywhere. by following this strategy no one will become addicted to gambling and no one will even know about it. and it doesn't even require threats from anyone. But if a person gambles for a long time then he becomes addicted and everyone knows about his gambling in which case he may face threats from his relatives or family members

20-30 minutes of gambling a day is nothing serious and dangerous (if it doesn't lead to a desire to gamble and spend more), but if his wife has already encountered gamblers in her life, she may think otherwise. As everyone knows, relatives of alcoholics/drug addicts who have experienced the horrors of severe forms of addiction are extremely negative about even "responsible" use, the same with gambling.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on July 16, 2023, 11:28:53 PM

Quote from: Josefjix on July 16, 2023, 10:58:28 PM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 16, 2023, 07:59:25 PM

it is really hard triumphant journey mate but if we will only open our mind and soul we will find reason how to win over .
if we will consider those people who loves us and those people that rely on us? not to count our own future?
those reasons are more than enough to be a winner in your own battle.

We are on a journey to have a good life for ourselves. We know what's right and wrong, it's our decision to either go the right or wrong path. Gambling should never be a source of income, because it's not reliable and can put one under pressure within hours or days. Facing threats to stop gambling, that incidence possibility is just 10% because my family doesn't bother to ask what you're doing except when you're not contributing anything to the family, only then their questions arises, they become more curious on what's hindering you from generating reasonable finances.

Everything you mentioned is real and true, it is in our hands to fix our lives where others rightly say that gambling is a matter of choice. And I also agree that it should not be planted in anyone's mind to turn gambling into a source of income.

Because it can't be considered a stable income, but maybe because of gambling we can do things that we can destroy that we don't expect such as friends or family that a gambler has and usually this happens when a gambler has an addiction.

People just can't understand and accept that gambling cannot be steady income. Thing that will enable you steady income are aklways boring things like working if you are not rich person. When one guy mentioned here that most of professional gamblers cannot even get steady income I was very surprised. I thought they were luckier part of spectrum. But even they can't make money through gambling adventure. So its crystal clear: Gambling should be seen as game, if you are a gambler you must present it something similar to "gamer".

Well, what i do think is that, any body who is really serious with making head ways in life will not make the mistake of seeing on depending on gambling as a major source of income, even though its not against the rule or a crime to expect making money from gambling, we should never allow gambling take the place of our daily job or business, doing so is just the same as one living his or her live by chance, just the same way that winning on most games in gambling is by chance, most especially slot and original casino games.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on July 16, 2023, 11:28:53 PM

But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Gambling 2-3 hours a week is very common because it is very short time. which is 25-26 minutes per day. In this short period of time it is possible to gamble away from people's eyes because gambling can be done very easily on a smartphone and anywhere. by following this strategy no one will become addicted to gambling and no one will even know about it. and it doesn't even require threats from anyone. But if a person gambles for a long time then he becomes addicted and everyone knows about his gambling in which case he may face threats from his relatives or family members

It seems that what most bothered his wife was the fact he was losing huge sums of money gambling and the situation where he won a decent sum playing in the past, but didn't tell her about his winnings. So she felt deceived by him, because they are a couple and technically it's expected to share important events which happen in our life with each other. The point that he was spending a long time gambling must be a secondary issue on this case. He could be playing for long hours, but still not losing big money or sharing with his wife how much he has been making or losing, so she would feel more confident gambling isn't harmful to their marriage relationship and mutual trust.

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Quote from: Josefjix on July 16, 2023, 10:58:28 PM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 16, 2023, 07:59:25 PM

it is really hard triumphant journey mate but if we will only open our mind and soul we will find reason how to win over .
if we will consider those people who loves us and those people that rely on us? not to count our own future?
those reasons are more than enough to be a winner in your own battle.

We are on a journey to have a good life for ourselves. We know what's right and wrong, it's our decision to either go the right or wrong path. Gambling should never be a source of income, because it's not reliable and can put one under pressure within hours or days. Facing threats to stop gambling, that incidence possibility is just 10% because my family doesn't bother to ask what you're doing except when you're not contributing anything to the family, only then their questions arises, they become more curious on what's hindering you from generating reasonable finances.

Everything you mentioned is real and true, it is in our hands to fix our lives where others rightly say that gambling is a matter of choice. And I also agree that it should not be planted in anyone's mind to turn gambling into a source of income.

Because it can't be considered a stable income, but maybe because of gambling we can do things that we can destroy that we don't expect such as friends or family that a gambler has and usually this happens when a gambler has an addiction.

People just can't understand and accept that gambling cannot be steady income. Thing that will enable you steady income are aklways boring things like working if you are not rich person. When one guy mentioned here that most of professional gamblers cannot even get steady income I was very surprised. I thought they were luckier part of spectrum. But even they can't make money through gambling adventure. So its crystal clear: Gambling should be seen as game, if you are a gambler you must present it something similar to "gamer".

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But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Gambling 2-3 hours a week is very common because it is very short time. which is 25-26 minutes per day. In this short period of time it is possible to gamble away from people's eyes because gambling can be done very easily on a smartphone and anywhere. by following this strategy no one will become addicted to gambling and no one will even know about it. and it doesn't even require threats from anyone. But if a person gambles for a long time then he becomes addicted and everyone knows about his gambling in which case he may face threats from his relatives or family members

To be honest it's a short amount of time even or a non-addict. It's just like you play a one game on of your favorite online game, it is that short to be honest. I think I can't consider playing 30 mins a day an addict, I can see that person as a regular gambler who are just trying to do a past time or finding entertainment on gambling. If we recieve such threats, it's not worth it, I would probably stop doing gambling if I'm not that addicted but yeah there are people who are addicted that even a threat won't faze them.

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Quote from: leonair on July 12, 2023, 04:50:39 AM

But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Gambling 2-3 hours a week is very common because it is very short time. which is 25-26 minutes per day. In this short period of time it is possible to gamble away from people's eyes because gambling can be done very easily on a smartphone and anywhere. by following this strategy no one will become addicted to gambling and no one will even know about it. and it doesn't even require threats from anyone. But if a person gambles for a long time then he becomes addicted and everyone knows about his gambling in which case he may face threats from his relatives or family members

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 12, 2023, 04:38:47 AM

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Now a smart phone is enough for gambling so it is possible to gamble blindly if one gambles in his spare time. But if someone is addicted to gambling, the addicted gambler gambles for long hours every day due to which his gambling is revealed to his family and relatives. And then he is put under a lot of pressure from his family and relatives and everyone starts to dislike him because gambling is not a good thing in the eyes of the society.

But we don't know for sure if if it's the case in the OP. We know that wife of the OP's friend thinks "he's spending a lot of time gambling". If you gamble 2-3 hours per week it may look to your relatives as "a lot of time". Don't get me wrong, I think that most probably, OP's friend is a problem gambler. I just want to say that that's not necessarily the case.

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 13, 2023, 09:43:41 PM

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then crypto come to my life in which made easy for me to connect in gambling but realized that I am missing more than half of my life , that is when i start accumulating crypto and lessen my gambling vices , and yes now I only gamble when i have spare money and not to seek to become instant millionaire .

That's a good and healthy approach approach to gambling, and I want to congratulate you, as others did here. Keep it up, mate!

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Quote from: Sakanwa on July 15, 2023, 09:44:45 AM

If you're not earning your own money yet and still relying on your parents for finances, you should not gamble. Because that money is probably meant for your studies or other needs and not to be spend in gambling. It's quite normal for parents to be strict since gambling can really influence us negatively if we can't control ourselves. Especially if you're still a student, it can affect your studies once you became hooked to this activity.

So don't wait to be threaten by your loved ones. Be open and listen because they're just concern.

In order to gamble at minimum we need three things, they are the mental maturity to gamble, understanding of the probabilities behind the games and our own money, and it is obvious a kid or a young person does not has a single one of the minimum requirements to gamble.

As they are not mature enough to take decisions with their money, they do not understand gambling at all and they do not even have their own money, as whatever money they have on hand was given to them by their parents with an express purpose, so it is obvious they should stay away from gambling until they fulfill those requirements.

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We are been threatened to stop gambling only when we are observed making loses in every game we stake although it is not something expected to be gaining always that is why it is termed GAMBLING. I can remember while we were still kids our parents would not want to see us in any gambling hall and will even threaten to disown us at a point if you are been caught gambling you will be troubled and may even decide not to go home but as time goes on they began to understand the reasons for our interest in gambling and also discovered that we were never addict but risk takers

You were lucky if that was the case, our parents wouldn't even let us play with cards saying that it is not a good thing even when we didn't have anything on a bet which means it is just a simple game and not gambling if they would see us gambling somewhere, that would be the day when we used to know what will happen when we go home, you can't survive the anger of the parents after something like that, and they will surely beat you up when you are back home.

But, we actually never gambled when were kids, we did use to play with cards but we never wagered money on it because it was not allowed and we were also not interested and we used to do that only to pass our time and not to gamble and win each others money since it used to be us cousins only.

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