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But atheists believe atheism exists. So, they have a religion involving something that is non-existent. So, it is a religion of non-religion.

How can you simultaneously claim that atheism is a religion, and atheism doesn't exist?  Those claims are not compatible

Please get your story straight before dictating my beliefs to me... thanks

Atheism as a religion doesn't exist. They themselves create as a separate religion and make people follow it. Their statements is out of religion but now they were trying to evolve into a religion.

This is what I have been saying all along. Since atheism is self contradictory, it doesn't really exist, and therefore certainly can't be proof for its own existence.

What's the big deal?

You don't have any kind of proof here. You didn't understand what I wrote so I'll rephrase:

The non-existence of a given belief (or claim thereof) is never proof for the existence of said belief.

School board member tells atheists to ‘crawl back into their hellhole’ if they don’t like ‘Christmas break’
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/school-board-member-tells-atheists-to-crawl-back-into-their-hellhole-if-they-dont-like-christmas-break/

If I was suggesting the proof of your faith, I could easily be wrong, because I don't know you well enough for that. It was your idea that I have proof.

The proof that everyone has religion goes beyond knowing that you have a particular kind of religion.

So your proof for the existence of something I believe is a statement from me that it is not something I believe?

Unfortunately that's not how discussion works.

Yes, I'd tend to agree with you.

But you don't need an IQ of 140 to work it out.

What is intelligence anyhow ? And how are you going to measure it ? And who decides ?

And whats any of it to do with an individual having faith ? Or believing ?

But if I were to indulge you - and your line of reasoning - I'd have to say that beyond your elite "140's" who are atheist and don't believe in free will are those of 150+ who, well, can't be sure one way or the other.

God is so extremely great, that He can allow free will while making things operate completely by cause and effect. We may not understand it easily, but we can understand how it works, basically.

free will cannot be true because it contadicts causality. they cannot both be true. one of them must go. if you believe that the physical universe is governed by causality, then there is no room for freewill in any consistent model of the universe.

Free will is only illusory if god exists... but, since god does not exist, your will is free from god's manipulation

The only impediment to your free will is your susceptibility to manipulation (read gullibility)

Now you have added the slang word "dickhead" to your personal religion. Or was it there all along and you had simply never proclaimed it before?

Keep on. The more you proclaim this and that, the firmer you make your religion... even when it is the religion of atheism... the religion of non-religion.

All of your proclamations help to fit your religion into the dictionary definition of "religion."

I know a lot of not smart people who know very well that free will is illusory.

Where does that leave us ?

Lol i so love this double standard silly biggotry .

I particularly hate that IQ sweet spot... 125 IQ is where you find nothing but asshats and wise-asses... people who get used to being smarter than most people, and start to think they are the smartest guy on the planet (like Donald Trump)... they only seem happy, because they get a small modicum of joy out of trolling stupid people... but trolls are never truly happy

After the troll-creating sweetspot of 125 IQ, there is a break around 140 IQ, where people less troll-like, but still not happy... mostly saddened by all the ignorance and stupidity in the world, and the understanding that you can't fix stupid
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it seems that at 125 you are smart enough to be anything but not too smart to pay the price of seeing too far. some experts say that below 150 people are still prone to conditioning. after 150 it starts to fade. but from there the torture starts to intensify. add that to the fact that you have less and lees peers of the same caliber of mind as you go to the extreme of the bell curve. people here will be less and less understood by contemporaries, family and friends.

i hear you about 140. i have seen some real life friends, acquaintances, and prominent people who seem to fall around that number. they generally dont have the misplaced confidence of the 125s but they are still vulnerable in some areas. someone said here somewhere that atheism is one of the no-brainers for smart people. if you want to segregate for intelligence, atheism will weed out most of the unintelligent. an even better segregator will be the lack of belief in free will. i know a lot of smart people who are atheist but they really struggle with accepting that their so-called free will is illusory.

Not true. Just because I believe something without being able to prove it doesn't mean I have religious beliefs about it.

As an example I believe you're a dickhead. I can't prove it, but I'm not making a religion of your dickheadedness. Further, if someone is able to prove you're *not* a dickhead, then I'll change my mind about you.

As a contrast, people with religious beliefs are unable to change their minds about their religion even in the face of opposing proof.

Since I am showing you several reasons why atheism is not truth, you haven't been able to show anything but talk. So, you are proving yourself to be the thing that you seem to be calling others... others who can give a reasonable explanation where you can't seem to.

+1

I am an atheist and I don't think about atheism 1/10th as much as BADecker does...

The only time I think about atheism is when I come across some asshat talking shit about atheists...

Mmm, it hasn't gone unnoticed that the person who wastes the most time talking about atheism on this forum is infact.................    yourself.
And when your tired of rambling on about that, you bore everyone wasting even more time promoting this false god of yours.

You really should to get out of the house more. Would do you the world of good.