Topic: Health and Religion - page 84. (Read 211012 times)

Like anything else individualism is good and fine when properly subordinated to greater goods; but when it seeks to overturn the throne and monarchy of God, and usurp for itself the position of being the greatest good, like every uppity servant, it turns tyrannical. Like every idol, the moment it is worshiped as above God, it becomes a demon, no matter how good, truthful, and reasonable it once was in its proper sphere.

Individualism when expanded beyond all bounds and beyond all logic turns into subjectivism, polylogism, antinomianism and nihilism. It cuts off the individual from the cosmos.

I have slowly come to the conclusion that Leftism is a religion, a cult, which takes the individual as paramount and denies God, denies the divine.

The individual being free from all restraint, including all self restraint, is one of the dogmas of these credo. The individual is paramount. Thou art God.

But if the individual is paramount, than the individual, he alone, says what is beautiful and ugly. Summer stars, wintery mountains, racing stallions, stooping falcons, the ocean at midnight are, with a wave of his all powerful hand, defined as ugly.

Garbage, marred corpses, excrement in tin cans, empty rooms, toilet lids are all, with a second wave, defined as art.
Any objective definition of beauty would offend the Leftist self-worshipper at the core of his black little heart, because that definition would rob him of this godlike power. So the Leftist (if he be true to his false principles) can be expected to deny that there is any objective beauty.

(Not that all of them are true, or any of them. Consistency is not their strong suit.)
Now, if a man calls beautiful only what is really beautiful, there is no glory in that. Anyone can command the sea to rise when the tide is low. Only a god can lower the level of the ocean at low tide, however. So the power can only be used to call trash art, never to call art art. This is subjectivism.

The same argument as applies to beauty applies to virtue, and then to reason, and then to truth.
The godlike power to worship oneself is only used to call evil good and good evil; to dismiss reason as prejudice, and to dismiss truth as person opinion or cultural conditioning.

Denying vice and virtue is called antinomianism. Reducing reason to cultural, racial or personal opinion is called polylogism. Dismissing truth is nihilism.

Ha, ha, HA, Ha, ha. You can't rebut the proof. Ha, ha, HA, Ha, ha.     

BADecker principle rule number 1: If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore it and claim it is wrong.

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me more proof.

Besides, it is up to you to prove your god, not me to disprove. But when you say it is real, I will ask for proof.

Still waiting for you to show the rebuttal, rather than flimsy words that suggest that there is rebuttal.

I don't follow any religion, but my own way and do not have any medical conditions that are serious. I just hope that you don't deal with problems in life like you said here, not bothering but turning head away.

I follow my religion and health practices and till now i am not worried about anything nor do i have any medical conditions that are serious.  I would rather not bother about these issues and look for a brighter thing that would soothe my brains . 

While excavating a burial tomb near Jerusalem in 1979, Gabriel Barkay uncovered the oldest known copy of Old Testament scripture. The priestly blessing, recorded in Numbers 6:24-26, was discovered on two small silver scrolls dated to the 7th century B.C.
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“The importance of the Ketef Hinnom inscriptions tends to be overlooked among students and pastors,” Ortiz said. “These scrolls are significant for the dating of the Old Testament. They provide evidence of the antiquity of the Bible.”

The two silver scrolls were discovered by Barkay’s team in a rock-hewn burial cave southwest of the ancient city of Jerusalem. The structure of the tomb was of interest to Barkay because it dated to the First Temple period, but it appeared that over centuries looters had taken all the artifacts. The tomb had last been used for storing Turkish army rifles during the Ottoman period.

However, Barkay and his team discovered that some artifacts had been preserved in a bone repository in the tomb. When a family member died, he or she was placed on a burial bench in the tomb along with personal items such as vases and jewelry, Barkay explained. After the dead body decayed, the bones were collected and placed in a bone repository located in a separate area of the tomb. The practice is referred to in the Old Testament as being “gathered unto his fathers.”

At some point a layer of the repository’s ceiling broke lose and covered the collected bones and personal items. Barkay said that the piece of ceiling appeared to be nothing more than the repository floor. An Israeli schoolboy helping clean the repository during excavations accidentally broke through the layer, revealing many bones and artifacts below.

As the team sifted through the items in repository, they discovered the two scrolls. After the initial discovery in 1979, scholars had the daunting task of unrolling and deciphering the text. They had no idea how important the find would be.

“It took us three years to unroll it [the larger scroll],” Barkay said. “When unrolled, it was covered with very delicately scratched characters. The first word we could decipher was the ‘YHWH’ –- sometimes anglicized as ‘Jehovah.’ This is the name of the Lord in the Hebrew Bible.”

Until this time no inscriptions with the name of God had been found in Jerusalem.

The larger of the two scrolls was only about three inches long when it was unrolled. The smaller one was just over two inches long. Barkay said the thin fragile silver of each scroll was etched with 19 lines of tiny, Hebrew script. It was years before researchers realized that the inscription was an almost exact representation of the priestly blessing found in Numbers. Careful study revealed that the Hebrew characters used were distinctive of the 7th century B.C.

In English the verses read: “The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.”
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Has been rebutted but you do not recognise it.

Therefore, to use your exact same logic..... Your links are not proof. Give me proof.

The reality of the situation is that you are blinded by any other reality than what you believe and when it is rebutted, you simply say it isn't rebutted. Well the same principal will now apply and I will call it the "BADecker principle". Your links are not proof so give me proof.

Thank you for rebutting my talk. Now rebut the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Oh, that's right. You have failed miserably in the past. Why? Because God exists.

The reality of the situation is that your arguments and links have been rebutted.

Just because you choose not to believe it does not make your beliefs correct and the rebuttal wrong.

@af_newbie.....  I agree..... he is delusional and needs a lot of deprogramming.

I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.

There is no proof.  I am sane, you are not.

If you think about it. These 2 really come hand in hand. Religion is pretty much the guidelines of the things that make you feel at peace. If you are not sure that you are at peace. Then you can't really say that you are free from stress. Well this is my take on this. Just saying..

You are mistaken about what I understand and the things that I believe. While there might be a few half-truths in the things that you say, you apparently haven't looked at my posts. Or, you are intentionally skewing the things that I have posted so that you can maintain your atheism religion.

stats,

BADecker is a lunatic.  He convinced himself that his twisted half truths about entropy, cause and effect and Bible text are absolute proof that God exists, and he fails to accept the fact that Bible is a collection of writings by 40+ uneducated bronze age people, written over the course of 2500 years.  On top of that he denies evolution, the age of Earth and the age of the universe.  He conveniently ignores the fact that entropy here on Earth has been decreasing, thanks to the constant energy input from the Sun.

Basically, he is delusional.  He needs decades of deprogramming to get him out of that 'thinking framework' that his cult put him in.

I think the scientific discussion should end when a person says that Earth is 6000 years old, or that we did not evolved from monkeys.

When I confronted BADecker about the age of Earth by showing him pictures of 9000+ years old, LIVING trees in Sweden, he said that people who counted the rings made a mistake, then he implied that maybe the trees grew more rings per year in the past (because of entropy etc...).

When you show him evidence of neolithic sites that are 10000+ years old, he will ignore it and say that the age cannot be determined, wait for it, because Bible says the Earth is 6000 years old and the flood happened 4000 ago so it is not possible.

I think he sits on the fence about the flat Earth model as described in the Bible.  I'm not sure he has a story about that.  Probably will say that Bible describes accurately the whole universe. Just like Muslim morons claim that Quran has scientific truths etc.

All religious people are delusional, the question is how severe the delusions are.

Been rebutted.... you just fail to admit it.

Now it's your turn..... prove it!

@af_newbie  I am happy living in a world of truth and reality, how about you?

I follow my religion and health practices and till now i am not worried about anything nor do i have any medical conditions that are serious.  I would rather not bother about these issues and look for a brighter thing that would soothe my brains . 

Are you like stats? Another joker who can't rebut the science, but says there is no proof? Go on. Systematically rebut and refute if you can. Otherwise, thanks again for helping to show that the proof stands, and that you have a religion in atheism.