Intervention Theory: Did a Higher Power Defeat the Nazis?
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There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
WTF? Now this is just mindless rubbish. That is like saying all those Altar boys who were raped by the priest of their church didn't ask for it.... but in reality they did.
You only look at the surface of things. People have been hurting people all over the world almost since time began.
People who hurt others for no reason will lose some of their glory in Heaven if they are saved. But if they are damned, they will have extra pain in Hell.
But.. I was always told by the local priests and other people that god loves us all and will forgive our sins. So what's the deal with that?
God DOES love all. That's why He gave us appropriate freedom.
Who should God let live if there is war between people and God? God can't be destroyed. Yet, in the war, God, in the form of Jesus, DID die.
If people will not accept the way that God gave them to "overcome" Him - the death of Jesus - there is nothing else for these people. What else can God do? He essentially gave Himself up to death in the person of the God-man, Jesus. Other than that, you can't kill or destroy God. You will only succeed in destroying yourself if you won't accept.
How much greater love can there be? When people reject the love, there simply isn't anything else than their destruction.
Even little kids who die from cancer? Why is God killing them?
What? Now you are calling the Creator of all things, cancer? Don't you have any joy in life at all?
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
WTF? Now this is just mindless rubbish. That is like saying all those Altar boys who were raped by the priest of their church didn't ask for it.... but in reality they did.
You only look at the surface of things. People have been hurting people all over the world almost since time began.
People who hurt others for no reason will lose some of their glory in Heaven if they are saved. But if they are damned, they will have extra pain in Hell.
But.. I was always told by the local priests and other people that god loves us all and will forgive our sins. So what's the deal with that?
God DOES love all. That's why He gave us appropriate freedom.
Who should God let live if there is war between people and God? God can't be destroyed. Yet, in the war, God, in the form of Jesus, DID die.
If people will not accept the way that God gave them to "overcome" Him - the death of Jesus - there is nothing else for these people. What else can God do? He essentially gave Himself up to death in the person of the God-man, Jesus. Other than that, you can't kill or destroy God. You will only succeed in destroying yourself if you won't accept.
How much greater love can there be? When people reject the love, there simply isn't anything else than their destruction.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
WTF? Now this is just mindless rubbish. That is like saying all those Altar boys who were raped by the priest of their church didn't ask for it.... but in reality they did.
You only look at the surface of things. People have been hurting people all over the world almost since time began.
People who hurt others for no reason will lose some of their glory in Heaven if they are saved. But if they are damned, they will have extra pain in Hell.
But.. I was always told by the local priests and other people that god loves us all and will forgive our sins. So what's the deal with that?
The simplest proof that nobody can save himself is found in the fact that nobody can grow an arm back when he has lost it. So, how is anyone going to save himself when he is dead?
The New Testament is full of all kinds of places where Jesus salvation is shown. A few are shown below.
John 10:11, Jesus speaking:
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I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:14,15:
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I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
1 John 2:1,2:
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My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Read the rest of the New Testament. You are so close, but being as close as you are, you are still badly mistaken.
Pretty certain I have proved that your bible is full of contradictions. Why would anyone want to believe it now?
BADecker I really think you should read "Lord of the Rings". It is a much better book with a better story line,
My reply to BADecker:
Belief that "Jesus" has "SAVED" you will definitely NOT "SAVE" you FROM ANYTHING. Jesus taught the path of goodness and life as a universal means of becoming one with the Father, he did not ever say "all will be forgiven by/through me, Jesus"; he cannot absolve you of your KARMA just because you believe that he can; that is a stark example of magical thinking. In fact, Jesus said that even those who call him Lord and cast out demons in his name are not saved if they have not done enough to save themselves through deeds. I am sorry but you will have to "SAVE" yourself if there is going to be any saving, All “SAVIORS” are by identification and definition “PHONY”. There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself. This includes your Constitution and your nation.
Belief that "Jesus" has "SAVED" you will definitely NOT "SAVE" you FROM ANYTHING. Jesus taught the path of goodness and life as a universal means of becoming one with the Father, he did not ever say "all will be forgiven by/through me, Jesus"; he cannot absolve you of your KARMA just because you believe that he can; that is a stark example of magical thinking. In fact, Jesus said that even those who call him Lord and cast out demons in his name are not saved if they have not done enough to save themselves through deeds. I am sorry but you will have to "SAVE" yourself if there is going to be any saving, All “SAVIORS” are by identification and definition “PHONY”. There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself. This includes your Constitution and your nation.
The simplest proof that nobody can save himself is found in the fact that nobody can grow an arm back when he has lost it. So, how is anyone going to save himself when he is dead?
The New Testament is full of all kinds of places where Jesus salvation is shown. A few are shown below.
John 10:11, Jesus speaking:
Quote
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:14,15:
Quote
I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
1 John 2:1,2:
Quote
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Read the rest of the New Testament. You are so close, but being as close as you are, you are still badly mistaken.
My reply to BADecker:
Belief that "Jesus" has "SAVED" you will definitely NOT "SAVE" you FROM ANYTHING. Jesus taught the path of goodness and life as a universal means of becoming one with the Father, he did not ever say "all will be forgiven by/through me, Jesus"; he cannot absolve you of your KARMA just because you believe that he can; that is a stark example of magical thinking. In fact, Jesus said that even those who call him Lord and cast out demons in his name are not saved if they have not done enough to save themselves through deeds. I am sorry but you will have to "SAVE" yourself if there is going to be any saving, All “SAVIORS” are by identification and definition “PHONY”. There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself. This includes your Constitution and your nation.
Belief that "Jesus" has "SAVED" you will definitely NOT "SAVE" you FROM ANYTHING. Jesus taught the path of goodness and life as a universal means of becoming one with the Father, he did not ever say "all will be forgiven by/through me, Jesus"; he cannot absolve you of your KARMA just because you believe that he can; that is a stark example of magical thinking. In fact, Jesus said that even those who call him Lord and cast out demons in his name are not saved if they have not done enough to save themselves through deeds. I am sorry but you will have to "SAVE" yourself if there is going to be any saving, All “SAVIORS” are by identification and definition “PHONY”. There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself. This includes your Constitution and your nation.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
WTF? Now this is just mindless rubbish. That is like saying all those Altar boys who were raped by the priest of their church didn't ask for it.... but in reality they did.
You only look at the surface of things. People have been hurting people all over the world almost since time began.
People who hurt others for no reason will lose some of their glory in Heaven if they are saved. But if they are damned, they will have extra pain in Hell.
Some glory? So killers would go to your imaginary place in the sky?
How twisted ideology is this? If you don't kill you'll get a palace in heaven, but if you kill, and be sorry, you'll get a condo in heaven.
WTF? Looks like the people who came up with these admission criteria wanted more people to be saved (and pay for it).
It does not matter if you killed, raped or whatever, you are still good to go, once you pay the right amount.
Indulgence my ass.
Everything in religious (it does not matter which one) ideologies is about increasing membership.
They call it missionary work, it should be called marketing and client retention department.
What in the world stupid fallacies are you marketing here (above)?
Religious mission work is similar to marketing, but it isn't marketing. Many missionaries erroneously use marketing techniques in doing mission work.
Mission work is simply informing. No skin off my rear end if you don't accept and make it to Heaven. This is a forum. We chat here.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
WTF? Now this is just mindless rubbish. That is like saying all those Altar boys who were raped by the priest of their church didn't ask for it.... but in reality they did.
You only look at the surface of things. People have been hurting people all over the world almost since time began.
People who hurt others for no reason will lose some of their glory in Heaven if they are saved. But if they are damned, they will have extra pain in Hell.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
WTF? Now this is just mindless rubbish. That is like saying all those Altar boys who were raped by the priest of their church didn't ask for it.... but in reality they did.
Some cases of spirit contact can be proven, these beings are actually known to exist; the cosmonauts encountered a group of extraterrestrial etherians, called "hosts". Af newbie says that religious devotion and contact with divine beings is always a case of mental defect or insanity. Fortunately there is much evidence showing otherwise, I hope that readers will follow up on the sources I gave and wake up to what is going on.
Not true. Such voices can be temporarily induced by technology as was shown with the invasive billboard in New York City. Furthermore, all humans have an inner voice that is perceived mentally.
I had to look this one up as I did not initially understand the reference.
Found a video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUs3nfLeEj8
A billboard that whispers disturbing things only you can hear as you walk down the street. Have to say I am not a fan.
One more time, if you believe, hear or see something that other people don't see or hear, you are losing your mind.
Not true. Such voices can be temporarily induced by technology as was shown with the invasive billboard in New York City. Furthermore, all humans have an inner voice that is perceived mentally.
One more time, if you believe, hear or see something that other people don't see or hear, you are losing your mind.
Not true. Such voices can be temporarily induced by technology as was shown with the invasive billboard in New York City. Furthermore, all humans have an inner voice that is perceived mentally.
If you want you can read about spirit mediums and thereby get a real education about "voices"; it should not take too long to decipher this phenomena once you have seen the best cases. In some cases the spirit obviously exists, like we see with the chess game and as detailed in the paper "The Problem of Seth's Origin".
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
Another example of "voice" phenomena can be seen in Ancient Aliens episode called "Russia's Secret Files". Multiple Soviet cosmonauts witnessed the same "hallucination" of giant winged beings and also related hearing voices; these beings basically informed the cosmonauts that mankind is "not ready" to venture "out there".
Electronic Voice Phenomena is another well documented example of unexplained empirical results that fly in the face of the idea that hearing "voices" indicates a mental defect.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
All people who knew they had cancer and beat it, did so through prayer. Some of the people knew they were praying. Others didn't.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
Maybe what? There are maybe's all over the place in life. One of the places that ISN'T a maybe is that God answers prayer in the best way. Like you think that we know what is best, better than the Guy Who controls everything through cause and effect, and MAYBE a million other ways, as well?
Come on, man. God is on your side. Quit fighting Him.
There is only one possible answer to the prayers and it's MAYBE. The same result you'd get as praying to a car or any other object.
Wrong! The answer to prayers is always, God knows best, and answers all prayers in the best way.
so it's still a maybe, if the best "way" for you is not to listen to your prayer and you're not aware of his thought, the answer is maybe.
If you want you can read about spirit mediums and thereby get a real education about "voices"; it should not take too long to decipher this phenomena once you have seen the best cases. In some cases the spirit obviously exists, like we see with the chess game and as detailed in the paper "The Problem of Seth's Origin".
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
But if you are seeking the truth, you won't be able to avoid finding the God of the Universe, who is shown by these...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380
... and many more proofs.
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