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Thanks for that input, searchtrade.  The things you shared on this post are the type of things that the investors (in keywords) need to know, IMO.  The more detailed your plan, the less the perceived risk, so long as the plan seems feasible.  The more that's left in the dark, the greater the risk appears.

I think what you lay out could work.

The one caveat being: I believe it would be less risky for you, and give your company better chances at success in the long-run, if you start (pre-launch and early post launch) by focusing most of your attention/ money/ ads domestically (in your area and maybe India, as well), wherein, I'm assuming costs will be much lower compared to trying to reach a global market, at least, in terms of running radio and television ads.  This will allow you to experiment with different types of approaches at advertising (should we go late night, low cost, for many months or burn more for day-time television, running for a week?) without burning all of the money on, essentially, a hope and a prayer.

Which leads me to my next question(s):

If you don't mind sharing, what are your plans for advertising?  Is it going to be solely online ads?  Television, locally? Radio?  Billboards? Combination of all of the above?

I like the videos you run on youtube and think that they'd make good television ads for the US market, but I'm sure costs would be quite high to run on a popular television channel here in the US.

Also, do you plan to use a good percentage of the keyword earnings to pump this up before the launch, or do most of your plans involve post launch spending?

If your product is already great, then it might be a good idea to drive as many eyes at it as possible, ASAP.  But if it still has glitches, then it might be a better idea to treat the "first wave" of users as "beta testers", touching it up a bit, before really throwing money at it.

I did some number-crunching after purchasing a few keywords and "scoring" my words against the search word "porn" on "google trends".  My words scored over 700% of total searches for "porn", per month (774% to be exact).

At 33.34 Satoshi per one of my keywords being searched (I divided 100 satoshi by 3, as I figure searches will probably average 3 keywords), and figuring that there are 100,000 users per month on the searchtrade search engine, each averaging about 6.667 searches, my list of keywords generated only about 0.0171 BTC after one year.

So, according to my calculations, unless the value of Bitcoin shoots through the roof (over $10,000 per Bitcoin...staying there), searchtrade's search engine must achieve 10 million users per month, or more, to be profitable to the community pool (keyword owners).  

At 10,000,000 users (or 66.67 million searches) per month, my keyword list would generate about 1.71 BTC per year, meaning that the word "porn" would generate 1.71 BTC divided by 7.74, or 0.221 BTC per year ($50.35 per year at Bitcoin's current price), since my list is projected to generate 774% of "porn" searches - this all assuming the same distribution of search "habits" for visitors between searchtrade's search engine and Google's.

BTW, there are roughly 5.8 billion searches per day on Google's search engine.  This would likely equate to around 870 million users of the Google search engine per day, using the same math from earlier (total searches/ 6.667 searches per user = number of users).

This is valuable information to have as an investor in this, which is why I chose to share it here.

*edit:

Another bit of interesting info for you: this same list of keywords would generate about 12.26 BTC per day on Google's search engine, at 1,103,172,409 searches per month for my keywords!  I wouldn't mind it if searchtrade could grow to that size...

*edit 2:

I likely used a low-ball figure for the number of searches for the word "porn", per month.  According to "google adwords", the word "porn" is searched about 124 million times per month, currently.  Since "porn" scores an 87 at the moment on "google trends", when it was at its peak (100) it would have been searched about 142.5 million times per month (assuming the google adwords estimate is reliable).

The problem with using google adwords is that, I believe, it only counts how many times the word is searched, alone (without other words included in the search query...so, for instance, the search "hot porn" wouldn't count as a search for "porn", since another word is included) ...which would likely make this a VERY low-ball figure.

But even if the word "porn" is searched ten times as often as google adwords suggests, putting the total searches per month at 1.24 billion, 1.42 billion at its peak, it would still only generate about 0.0244 BTC per year for the word "porn", at 667,000 searches per month (what I figured to be the number of searches for 100,000 users).

The planned payout system requires that there be tens of millions of searches per month for this to become profitable.  At hundreds of millions of searches per month it would become very attractive for those who hold keywords that generate a high number of searches relative to the pool of keywords (words like "the", "porn", "sex", "facebook", "youtube", etc).  At billions of searches per month, if Bitcoin can maintain above $200, this might be able to replace your job for income with a high scoring word and give a decent yearly profit for even average scoring words.  At tens of billions of searches per month, one can retire and live beyond his/her means with a high scoring word and perhaps replace their job's income with one or two average scoring words.  At hundreds of billions, you might make it onto Forbes magazine with the highest scoring words!

Mmmh for me the site was trying to make me deposit only with BTC. I will try again later.

Well first the sncdemo.com URL when you buy is a bit confusing. Then when I wanted to deposit, the "pay with btc" button was 15% hidden, still clickable though. I clicked then then site went a bit darker, like for a pop up but no pop up ! So even if I wanted to deposit with Bitcoin I wouldn't be able. It was on Chrome.
I will list you guys on InvestBitcoinGuide.com if you happen to be trusted by the community in the future.

Hello,

I can't find a way to buy with Paypal.
(I was searching for the option).
Your site might be in beta but it's still really dodgy . It does not inspire confidence.

Honestly, where money and investment are concerned, 'maybe' shouldn't even be a part of your company's vocabulary, and it certainly isn't there on your website: http://searchtrade.news/keywordowner/

'The keywords will be sold on a first come first serve basis based on price slabs from 1-100 101-500 etc. Price will be reduced after each slab since first buyers are likely to buy higher performing words.'

Now, granted, the slab 000/500 wasn't reached in view of the 500 total (yet), but you did shift the goal post to 1000 total at 0.4btc per keyword. No maybe about it. If you can just randomly change the slab total as you fancy then my confidence is less that other factors of value within my investment won't be randomly changed as you maybe choose.

I have checked your site and found it is in pre launch state. The point i like the most is that you will also pay the users who do searches. Hope to see it live within some months.

Maybe you want a couple of keywords with the BTC you earn through that signatura campaign right?

I believe that is why you are posting shit all over without further researching

Yes there is one actually , this is a scam .
Him not wanting to provide a simple signed messages from one of his big adresses explains a lot of things

Yep, trust is very precious. So... I see you've now extended the pre-sale price of 0.4 per keyword to 1000 units instead of the 500 it previously was. You had said that after the block total was reached ( 000/500 ) that each block would go down by 10% each time.

As an investor, I find the moving of goal posts a touch worrying. Is there some explanation for this?

+1. Posting an simple image doesn't prove anything. Post a signed message showing ownership of addresses

Posting a simple image dosen't proove anything , and definitly dosen't proove that you own this , it could be photoshoped or anything else .
I'am not even sure why someone with this huge amount keep them on Smartphone wallet , this should be kept on Cold storage or at least Two Factor authentification Desktop wallet .

that's nothing new. you can get paid by Bing for searches too. or by many other get paid to services.

Backup just a little bit; your project seems an innovative take on search business, but you say people will get paid to search? How does this work please?

Thanks for quick reply.

One more question about the search payout: so, if a person searches "how to rock climb" and "how", "to", "rock", and "climb" are all keywords that are owned by community members, then the person who made the search would get 400 satoshi (100 for each keyword hit)?  And if one person owned three of those four words, they would get 300 satoshi, if I understand you correctly.

I have two questions for you searchtrade:

1.) your site still isn't running, correct?  I see that your link to the keyword crowd-sale is still running, but it appears that "searchtrade.com" is giving server error messages.

2.) can you go into a little more details about the "math" or algorithm to calculate the payout per search?  Is the payout per day pre-determined as a percentage of the community pool, or based on extrapolating rate of growth to last so many days, as to allow more money to enter the pool before it dries up?  How does it work?

why didn't you address the bitcoin proof / addresses? or is every sale a fake one?

How much did keywords like "sex" and "porn" cost?

Is the company going to publish info like that?

BTW how do you intend to fight back serchbots that's gonna make repeated searches with the same keyword in order to profit from that?

you think or do you know? they promised to show bitcoin addresses and verify them. never happened, so it's only natural to be suspicious.