why don you give out some large freebie to advertise your letsdice? since you said you won so much .
I think I should not play on the site I invested. And believe it or not, I'm not a gambler, which is hard to explain, though.
Topic: Hi, guys, I (NAKOWA) was beaten. Lost 5k BTC in two days (Still UP). - page 12. (Read 12597 times)
September 25, 2013, 12:26:26 PM
I think I should not play on the site I invested. And believe it or not, I'm not a gambler, which is hard to explain, though.
September 25, 2013, 12:25:57 PM
I was beaten hard today (as "percent" on JD). During the course of my play, just-dice.com's rule changed.
1. Max profit went down to 0.25%; (CHANGED WHEN I WAS PLAYING, WHICH IS UNFAIR.)
2. (not confirmed) the house edge raised when profit is larger than 50.
(I feel) The game is completely different. I wasn't able to drag the site's profit to down -6K. I don't remember, I once did(?), but seconds later I was down dramatically. And in the end, I lost 3K, which means, with a max profit of 70, I am incapable of winning back, crystally clear.Therefore, I'm leaving JD for good, since 1) I cannot win further; 2) I've proved my points.
Allow me restate: I respect doog and his work. Doog is an upstanding guy, and his work is wonderful. What happened during last three months, is nothing personal. Once doog asked me, "You always say you respect my work, why are you trying to kill the profit of JD?" I didn't and never meant to.
IMO, a winning whale is the most effective advertisement of a casino. However, most people here would disagree. They're more happy to see a whale is hunting down, beaten hard. I played by rules, and won. (I'm still up a lot.)
From now on, I'll only talk about project I'm involving, https://letsdice.com, for example. Hope most of you be nice to me. Thank you.
PS: About the bankroll I have, I started "gambling" on JD with 3000BTC (apart from another 4000 for investment), and never down more than 700.
House Edge still 1% for all bets. This was a stopgap measure.1. Max profit went down to 0.25%; (CHANGED WHEN I WAS PLAYING, WHICH IS UNFAIR.)
2. (not confirmed) the house edge raised when profit is larger than 50.
(I feel) The game is completely different. I wasn't able to drag the site's profit to down -6K. I don't remember, I once did(?), but seconds later I was down dramatically. And in the end, I lost 3K, which means, with a max profit of 70, I am incapable of winning back, crystally clear.Therefore, I'm leaving JD for good, since 1) I cannot win further; 2) I've proved my points.
Allow me restate: I respect doog and his work. Doog is an upstanding guy, and his work is wonderful. What happened during last three months, is nothing personal. Once doog asked me, "You always say you respect my work, why are you trying to kill the profit of JD?" I didn't and never meant to.
IMO, a winning whale is the most effective advertisement of a casino. However, most people here would disagree. They're more happy to see a whale is hunting down, beaten hard. I played by rules, and won. (I'm still up a lot.)
From now on, I'll only talk about project I'm involving, https://letsdice.com, for example. Hope most of you be nice to me. Thank you.
PS: About the bankroll I have, I started "gambling" on JD with 3000BTC (apart from another 4000 for investment), and never down more than 700.
The new plan is to raise the house edge gradually for bets with a max profit over 50BTC. It will remain 1% for all below.
The max bet will be raised after those changes are made
After rules were changed, Nakowa continued playing and only posts crying foul since he lost a bit.
I won't post in this thread any further, since I don't want to help you keep bumping your scam site.
To recall, this Nakowa and wannabe dice site operator stole 1300 BTC in free roll from Dooglus: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gambler-cheats-satoshidice-competitor-just-dice-out-of-1300-btc/
September 25, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
why don you give out some large freebie to advertise your letsdice? since you said you won so much .
September 25, 2013, 12:18:04 PM
I was beaten hard today (as "percent" on JD). During the course of my play, just-dice.com's rule changed. (UPDATE: in successive two days)
1. Max profit went down to 0.25%; (CHANGED WHEN I WAS PLAYING, WHICH IS UNFAIR.)
2. (not confirmed) the house edge raised when profit is larger than 50.
(I feel) The game is completely different. I wasn't able to drag the site's profit to down -6K. I don't remember, I once did(?), but seconds later I was down dramatically. And in the end, I lost 3K, which means, with a max profit of 70, I am incapable of winning back, crystally clear.Therefore, I'm leaving JD for good, since 1) I cannot win further; 2) I've proved my points.
Allow me restate: I respect doog and his work. Doog is an upstanding guy, and his work is wonderful. What happened during last three months, is nothing personal. Once doog asked me, "You always say you respect my work, why are you trying to kill the profit of JD?" I didn't and never meant to.
IMO, a winning whale is the most effective advertisement of a casino. However, most people here would disagree. They're more happy to see a whale is hunted down, beaten hard. I played by rules, and won. (I'm still up a lot.)
From now on, I'll only talk about projects I'm involving, https://letsdice.com, for example. Hope most of you be nice to me. Thank you.
PS: About the bankroll I have, I started "gambling" on JD with 3000BTC (apart from another 4000 for investment), and never down more than 700.
UPDATED 1
If nobody was making huge bets causing the bankroll to plummet then I wouldn't have made the change, that's true. And nakowa was the only one doing it.
So in that sense I made the change because of nakowa.
But he sees it as a personal attack and was offended by it. It wasn't personal. It was for the good of the site's bankroll, not an attack on nakowa.
I doubt it makes any sense trying to explain that to him. He thinks that the lag on the site is somehow working against him too. He's not being rational at the moment.
Doog, let's make this more clear:
You did make the change because of me, not "in a sense". And in a sense, it IS a personal attack. I played by rules you set, and you fought back by changing rules, is that what "provable fairness" is about?
I do NOT see it as me being offended, I see it as you being UNFAIR.
You said I'm taking things personal, but in fact, it's you taking things personal:
If you're a true believer of mathematics as you alleged, you should know it's maths, or variation that causinng the bankroll to plummet, NOT me, a player who plays by rules! But you think it's me doing it, WOW! you surprised me!
Whereas you're under the great pressure, you always choose the wrong direction. Otherwise, you're a nice guy.
About the lagging, I'm clearly not the only one who got hurt. I had no proof, so I use the word "supect", and hoping you can prove yourself clear. That's all.
UPDATE 6
I have offered to help you understand the proof twice now, but you fail to respond.
Which part are you having trouble understanding? I'm quite patient and should be able to help you see how it works.
TO DOOGLUS:
I said in the previous post:
You didn't answer anything about this.
1. Max profit went down to 0.25%; (CHANGED WHEN I WAS PLAYING, WHICH IS UNFAIR.)
2. (not confirmed) the house edge raised when profit is larger than 50.
(I feel) The game is completely different. I wasn't able to drag the site's profit to down -6K. I don't remember, I once did(?), but seconds later I was down dramatically. And in the end, I lost 3K, which means, with a max profit of 70, I am incapable of winning back, crystally clear.Therefore, I'm leaving JD for good, since 1) I cannot win further; 2) I've proved my points.
Allow me restate: I respect doog and his work. Doog is an upstanding guy, and his work is wonderful. What happened during last three months, is nothing personal. Once doog asked me, "You always say you respect my work, why are you trying to kill the profit of JD?" I didn't and never meant to.
IMO, a winning whale is the most effective advertisement of a casino. However, most people here would disagree. They're more happy to see a whale is hunted down, beaten hard. I played by rules, and won. (I'm still up a lot.)
From now on, I'll only talk about projects I'm involving, https://letsdice.com, for example. Hope most of you be nice to me. Thank you.
PS: About the bankroll I have, I started "gambling" on JD with 3000BTC (apart from another 4000 for investment), and never down more than 700.
UPDATED 1
Doog, let's do not make up reality, the change was made to protect the bankroll from the swings caused precisely by Nakowa and ONLY by Nakowa, for the simple reason he is the only one pushing max profit.
If nobody was making huge bets causing the bankroll to plummet then I wouldn't have made the change, that's true. And nakowa was the only one doing it.
So in that sense I made the change because of nakowa.
But he sees it as a personal attack and was offended by it. It wasn't personal. It was for the good of the site's bankroll, not an attack on nakowa.
I doubt it makes any sense trying to explain that to him. He thinks that the lag on the site is somehow working against him too. He's not being rational at the moment.
Doog, let's make this more clear:
You did make the change because of me, not "in a sense". And in a sense, it IS a personal attack. I played by rules you set, and you fought back by changing rules, is that what "provable fairness" is about?
I do NOT see it as me being offended, I see it as you being UNFAIR.
You said I'm taking things personal, but in fact, it's you taking things personal:
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If nobody was making huge bets causing the bankroll to plummet then I wouldn't have made the change, that's true. And nakowa was the only one doing it.
If you're a true believer of mathematics as you alleged, you should know it's maths, or variation that causinng the bankroll to plummet, NOT me, a player who plays by rules! But you think it's me doing it, WOW! you surprised me!
Whereas you're under the great pressure, you always choose the wrong direction. Otherwise, you're a nice guy.
About the lagging, I'm clearly not the only one who got hurt. I had no proof, so I use the word "supect", and hoping you can prove yourself clear. That's all.
UPDATE 6
Doog still failed to prove he didn't change anything other than max profit.
I have offered to help you understand the proof twice now, but you fail to respond.
Which part are you having trouble understanding? I'm quite patient and should be able to help you see how it works.
TO DOOGLUS:
I said in the previous post:
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It's suspecious about lagging, not "provably fair". With the same algorithm, the game could simply ignore the previous winning result, and place another bet (win or lose, doesn't matter, equivalent to raise the house edge two folds higher), and give the player a tremendous hit, especially when betsize is large. Don't know whether I've made myself clear.
You didn't answer anything about this.
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