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Topic: Hi, guys, I (NAKOWA) was beaten. Lost 5k BTC in two days (Still UP). - page 9. (Read 12529 times)

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I know if the profit was pushed back to positive by my loss, I'd become a joke, which I don't like to be. Smiley

You're already a joke because you always say you're leaving, and then you keep coming back to lose more. 

You're like a battered woman who can't stop coming back to your abuser.  But please do!  We'd love to get more coins back from you.
legendary
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Dooglus is honest.

Just Dice is provably fair.

There are no known flaws in sha256.

Nakowa: you are just a lucky player. If you really think you can beat the house edge in the long term, just prove your point by playing until you or the Casino go busto. I guess doog could at least raise max profit to 0.5% and commit to not changing the rules while you are playing, we would enjoy the show.

I don't know whether this is useful or not, but I ran Mooshire's verification tool on the first set of rolls in nakowa's most recent session.  The rolls it predicts exactly match up with the actual rolls from my logs.  (Of course...)



If I'm cheating then of course I could have faked that screenshot.  That's why you have to run Mooshire's tool for yourself to check it.
legendary
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Dooglus is honest.

Just Dice is provably fair.

There are no known flaws in sha256.

Nakowa: you are just a lucky player. If you really think you can beat the house edge in the long term, just prove your point by playing until you or the Casino go busto. I guess doog could at least raise max profit to 0.5% and commit to not changing the rules while you are playing, we would enjoy the show.
legendary
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I doubt just-dice.com has changed something besides "Max Profit"

I think you mean you "suspect" that something other than max profit has changed.  When you say you doubt something has happened, it means you think it hasn't happened.  You're saying you think it HAS happened.  This seems like an important point to make, because it completely changes the sense of what you're saying.  If I understand you, you're saying you think I changed something, not that you think I didn't.

I changed nothing other than the max profit.  The site is provably fair, and so you can verify that for yourself.  The algorithm is public.  Here for instance: https://just-dice.com/lucky.txt it is in the actual code that the site uses.  It's explained in words on the 'Fair?' tab.

If you look at your first bet of your most recent session: https://just-dice.com/roll/140043787, you'll see the seeds that were used.  You changed the seeds after your last deposit of 1000 BTC - here's the first bet you made with the new seeds: https://just-dice.com/roll/140090376 - you'll see that the server seed for that is still a secret.  That's in case you want to keep playing with it.  If you don't, click 'randomize' and the server seed will then be revealed.  Its hash is already published, and it's ce226cf6fe1034f2e85ea16b968f5955914c679c6addb6952f4a32d8ef3bc3bc.  That has been published since before your first roll.

Once you click 'randomize', the /roll/ URL above will show the actual server seed.  You'll then be able to use one of the 3rd party roll verification tools, such as Mooshire's one here: http://bitcoinmaniac.com/justdice.html enter the server seed, client seed, number of rolls, etc. and it will list all your lucky numbers.  You can compare them with any records you kept of your play, or with this log of your play: http://privatepaste.com/143646bf35

The log lists every deposit, every bet, every lucky number, and shows the nonce (n:) for each bet, and when you switched seeds.

I know you guys will refute me with "That's just a negative variation, the same you had in the past, that lucky positive variation."

We don't have to.  The maths refutes you.  The site is provably fair for a reason.  It's so that you can't claim "something changed" and be taken seriously.  Nothing changed except that the max profit was temporarily reduced while I work on allowing investors to select their own risk level.

But if my doubt is true, I mean "ONLY IF", I'd warn players stay away from a casino that is designed specifically to kill whales and dolphins."

And now we get to the real point.  "JD is cheating.  Use LD".  Right?  Doesn't matter that it isn't true.  Just throw enough mud and hope some of it sticks.

I don't want to argue, I only want to show what I doubt. I have no concrete proof, but the game is entirely different.

I have concrete proof that nothing has changed.  That's why you have no proof that it has changed - because it hasn't.

The game is the same.  You're betting against a sequence of random numbers, thinking you see patterns in it, and thinking "something changed" when the patterns stop appearing.  The truth is there are no patterns, you see what you want to see.  Sometimes you see a bunch of WLWLWL and sometimes you don't.  Random is like that.  Yesterday I saw a cloud that looked like a donkey.

Below are some of my accounts (I forgot the other two winning accounts' password)

Why don't you show the losing ones too, like 118977 (gigad) and 119016 (alison)?  They both lost before this alleged "change".  Could it be that they don't support your story and so you conveniently ignore them?

But after Dooglus changed the rules, while I was playing as "percent", in the last half, I often confronted long streak of losses with large bets, only won long streak of wins with dust bets. Even though my "luck" is 100.85%, I lost very quickly. Today, my "luck" is dramatically, or distinctively low, which is 94.52%, and I lost almost within half a hour. I can only doubt something is going wrong here.

I didn't change anything that would cause you to have different streaks.  The *only* thing that changed was the max profit went from 1% of bankroll to 0.25% of bankroll.  It happened after you had busted.  Before you redeposited.

JD is alleged "provably fair", which I sincerely want to believe. However, I doubt something changed. Since I have no concrete proof, I hope dooglus can public his algorithm (which I highly doubt has changed, specifically for me, the only winning whale on JD), and data of my recent bets, or all bets. In this way, the community can verify Doog didn't do anything wrong, and he's still an upstanding guy, respected by the community.

More than allegedly, it actually is provably fair.  Anyone can verify your first 521 bets in http://privatepaste.com/143646bf35 because the server seed is already published.  If you click 'randomize' then everyone can also verify the last 599 bets in there.  I would encourage you to verify the rolls for yourself, because otherwise you'll suspect that "the community" is lying to you about it being legit, because they hate you, or for whatever reason.  I would also encourage everyone else to do the same.  I have nothing to hide.
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Nakowa uses investor money from letsdice.com to play at just-dice.com

Nakowa is a fraud.   I hope he never plays at just-dice.com again.
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If you can find some evidence that you were cheated then please present it.  'I can't possibly be this unlucky' doesn't really count as anything but highly circumstantial evidence.

This is exactly why I advise Dooglus to publish his algorithm, since it's truly "provably fair". If doog didn't cheat at all, what's the loss for him? I think it's the easiest way for Dooglus to prove himself clear. And, I said I wouldn't call anyone a cheater without proof.

The algorithm is published.  Under the 'Fair?' tab on the site there are a couple of third party verifier scripts.  Have you tried those?

Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-provably-fair-and-how-it-can-be-exploited-by-casino-owners-against-you-283547

So your site (letsdice) is fraud too?   All right I'll never play there
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Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice.  He is a fraud.  We don't want him to play at just-dice anymore. 

He can play at satoshi dice they have 1.9% edge... He can go to a real casino with 1.9% edge....

He should stay away from just-dice 1% edge we don't want him there he is a fraud and accuser of dooglus.

So you mean the proof is "He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice" ,right? It seems that you have bought the strategy to check whether it's worked out or not ,huh?

The strategy was hacked and leaked for free and it was a fraud. Nakowa is a fraud.

We don't want him to play at Just-Dice.com anymore!!!!

NAKOWA STAY AWAY FROM JUST-DICE. DO NOT DEPOSIT. GO AND PLAY AT 1.9% EDGE AT SATOSHIDICE.
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For what it's worth, the algorithm is here: http://just-dice.com/lucky.txt
Nothing has changed besides the max profit.
legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
common it's only 5k

if doog rigged the algor, there must be ways to crack it up again as long as it's still provable fair .

everybody is missing you  Cool
legendary
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Merit: 1018
Nakowa: your strategy never worked. You didn't prove a single point (well, yes: that a single player with a bankroll orders of magnitude bigger than the rest of the players can create high variance - and some of us already knew that).

As an investor, I tell you that I was and I am just begging for you to keep playing. Too bad that some others "lost faith in math" (LOL) and panicked, which lead to a drastic reduction of max profit, which in fact probably "protected" you from bigger losses in the last three sessions.

You should feel ashamed for trying to sell a "gambling strategy" based on "flaws in SHA256" for 111 BTC. You have no strategy, you discovered NO flaw in SHA256, and you just bet at random trying to "spot patterns" - which is just a gambler's fallacy.



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hey nakowa you should gamble on letsdice.com - give something back to the letsdice investors Smiley

Will
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Who cares about you?
Bye

You, otherwise you shouldn't reply this post.  Tongue

I don't give a shit about him/it.
Otherwise I would have read the first post Tongue
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In mathematics we believe.
Who cares about you?
Bye

You, otherwise you shouldn't reply this post.  Tongue
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice.  He is a fraud.  We don't want him to play at just-dice anymore. 

He can play at satoshi dice they have 1.9% edge... He can go to a real casino with 1.9% edge....

He should stay away from just-dice 1% edge we don't want him there he is a fraud and accuser of dooglus.

So you mean the proof is "He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice" ,right? It seems that you have bought the strategy to check whether it's worked out or not ,huh?
full member
Activity: 476
Merit: 100
Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice.  He is a fraud.  We don't want him to play at just-dice anymore. 

He can play at satoshi dice they have 1.9% edge... He can go to a real casino with 1.9% edge....

He should stay away from just-dice 1% edge we don't want him there he is a fraud and accuser of dooglus.
sr. member
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Who cares about you?
Bye
member
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Merit: 10
Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.
full member
Activity: 476
Merit: 100
Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
In mathematics we believe.
Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-provably-fair-and-how-it-can-be-exploited-by-casino-owners-against-you-283547

It seems you may be out of options to prove JD cheated you.

I first heard about JD and started using the site after reading about your wins on a popular mainstream news web site.  How did you intend to keep winning when the odds are mathematically against you and it's only a matter of time until variance swings the other way?  I know people go on about 'feelings' and 'knowing' when they'll win, but everyone (bar the player) knows that's just a gambler's fallacy.  As is trying to find patterns in random numbers generated by OpenSSL.  If there are patterns to be had after observing just a few hundred thousand outcomes then forget an insignificant site like JD.  Online banking and commerce around the world would be in serious trouble.

Smiley I'm not talking about patterns here. I think doog can easily prove himself. The only issue is that is he willing to, and how.
legendary
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Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-provably-fair-and-how-it-can-be-exploited-by-casino-owners-against-you-283547

It seems you may be out of options to prove JD cheated you.

I first heard about JD and started using the site after reading about your wins on a popular mainstream news web site.  How did you intend to keep winning when the odds are mathematically against you and it's only a matter of time until variance swings the other way?  I know people go on about 'feelings' and 'knowing' when they'll win, but everyone (bar the player) knows that's just a gambler's fallacy.  As is trying to find patterns in random numbers generated by OpenSSL.  If there are patterns to be had after observing just a few hundred thousand outcomes then forget an insignificant site like JD.  Online banking and commerce around the world would be in serious trouble.
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