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September 27, 2022, 05:22:02 AM
#72
When this nightmare is finally over and CSW has lost the case to Hodlonaut, I will gladly rejoice for glory.

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The ruling of the case is estimated to be around November 8th, 2022 and both parties will be notified before it is announced.

as I read through the 7 days trial, CSW has no true evidence to prove himself wordy of Satoshi.

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When questioned about whether he intentionally destroyed the hard drive by Hodlonaut’s attorney, Ørjan Haukaas, Wright said “I didn’t want to encourage the arguments that you need keys.” He added “yes, you could say this is a risk, but I think it’s the most important thing I’ve done in my life.”

Wright informed the court that a minor issue like not possessing Satoshi’s keys would not prevent him from getting Satoshi's coins.

I wonder what CSW really meant by his response to that question,  if it will not prevent him from getting Satoshi coins, then court should prompt him to get back the 1.1 million Bitcoin he claim to hold.


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I just wonder how dump it is to call him self Satoshi after he said to "HODL" is SCAM, then he claim to have 1.1 million Bitcoin.
 Hoping to see how this whole stuff end so shamefully for him.
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September 27, 2022, 04:10:28 AM
#71
Tin-foil hats on. I believe they're funded by a powerful entity, or a group, probably could even be the CIA or some other intelligence organization who can operate in the shadows.

Intelligence agencies have been known to recruit people like Wright, the loose cannon grandiose narcissist pathological liar fantasist free agent type -- they're totally deniable as kooks and cons if things go wrong and they are easily controlled via copious dirt and their propensity for a 'fast' lifestyle.  But if it's true for Mr. Wright, we'll never know so I think it's not very useful to speculate about other than this:  Because it *could* be a state actor, we ought to fight it with all the vigor we'd fight an attack by a state actor.

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Where does Craig Wright get his funding

Ayre. This isn't speculation, e.g. https://www.cswarchive.info/sites/default/files/2021-08/2020_04_22%20Filing%20-%20Amended%20Reply.pdf  page 4 paragraph 4b. "it is admitted that the Claimant is being funded by a third party in these proceedings, namely Calvin Ayre. The Claimant has taken out a Bitcoin SV denominated commercial loan against the Claimant's and the Tulip Trust's Bitcoin and Bitcoin SV holdings, that will be be paid back to Mr Ayre."

There should be plenty of details on nchain elsewhere in the evidence too.

There may be others, I could speculate but I'd rather just give the one I'm absolutely sure of.

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How can Craig Wright escape the Australian government regarding his tax evasions?
Well he got money from his bamboozled sponsors to pay back AU which probably moved him to a lower priority.  If you look at news announcements for similar convictions you'll see that it took them a decade to prosecute other similar tax frauds, so Mr. Wright may just be waiting his turn.

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allegedly doing dirty jobs before?
Ayre had a bit of his own fantasist blogging about being a secret agent or something.  Likely bullshit similar to Wright's "I was offline for much of January 2011. During the time, I had travelled to Venezuela where I was working with a “Jawbreaker” team. The work was focused on stopping the trafficking of humans for the sex trade. I was in “prevention.” I did not bring people to justice, I worked with teams to stop things, permanently.".  I wouldn't put much weight into it.

As Franky1 says-- we should work smarter, and that much I agree. On that mark: The varrious more speculative theories might be true or not, but I think they're of no use in dealing with the situation unless we stumbled into some evidence that actually proves one of them-- and then it wouldn't be a speculative theory anymore.

In any case, what I really came here to post was:

Mr. Wright's "revolutionary" "2007 Bitcoin Whitepaper" << click the link
(transcribed from the handwritten version in the Hodl trial evidence)

You may have seen the first page/paragraph when it was transcribed on reddit after being shown on screen in court.  Now experience the entire uncut masterpiece in quadraphonic legible text!  Flex your faketoshi history by determining a likely true authorship date of the document based on Mr. Wrights inability to resist adding anachronistic grandstanding in support of whatever pathetic argument he was presently engaged. Marvel at how anyone could be convinced by any of this. Laugh, cry, and most of all blush with embarrassment on his behalf because, unlike Mr. Wright, your mental model of other people is more expansive than just coming up with ways of ripping them off.

(Or, if you're a true masochist Wright debunker, check out the original 78 page illegible version here or as part of the full archive.  The original also contains the *forbidden names of bitcoin* b-side content, not included in the top-post's translation into legiblease).


Don't just take my word for it, here's what the audience says:

* "Astounding, One cuil short of timecube!"
* "It should be written on the outside of a van that an unmedicated schizophrenic lives in, not submitted as evidence to a court of law"
* "Meh. Continuity errors, incorporated the cryddit 2013 timeline in the prior chapter but didn't bother including its parameters in this latest installment"
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September 27, 2022, 03:54:09 AM
#70
With all due respect Franky,  "he just wants attention, don't mention him" is exactly how we ended up in the situation we're in today.  It's also just not true:

its not about give up debunking him..
its not about not fighting his games

its about playing smarter

I don't think we're going to be taking any lessons from you on that front, given how your little one-man-war against parts of the Bitcoin community is going.  Remind me again how many people you've managed to bring over to your side on that one?  Pretty sure it's zero.  Your track record clearly demonstrates you haven't unlocked the recipe for success.  

That "relentless, yet impotent" routine you put on, along with your tired repetition of sad conspiracy theories just isn't going to cut it on this one, I'm afraid.  You keep saying we're the experts when it comes to the REKT campaigns, so why don't you stand by your own words for a change and leave the strategy to us, okay?  

The day we take advice from you about "playing smarter" is the day we hand victory to Wright on a platter.   Roll Eyes
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September 27, 2022, 03:23:40 AM
#69

Fundamentally, I think the issue is just with how brazen these creeps have become.  They're not worried about losing a lawsuit here or there because they think (correctly?) they're immune. The people they're attacking don't have that comfort.




Tin-foil hats on. I believe they're funded by a powerful entity, or a group, probably could even be the CIA or some other intelligence organization who can operate in the shadows.

Where does Craig Wright get his funding for NChain? How can Craig Wright escape the Australian government regarding his tax evasions?  Plus didn't Calvin Ayre work with people from the U.S. goverment, allegedly doing dirty jobs before?
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September 27, 2022, 03:11:18 AM
#68
Edit (to avoid a double-post):  LOL  Mr. Wright's "evidence" is out: https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xp5qy9/fresh_from_oslo_craig_wrights_submitted_evidence/
This is amazing to see for ourselves. Thanks for sharing.

The binary changes are absolutely hilarious. The space padding, the removal of %d, the original genesis hash with a headline which hadn't been published in 2008, the checksum, and so on. So amateurish and beyond any doubt whatsoever that this is all forgery. Any idea where the edited IP address is from?

Been flipping through all the other submitted evidence in that archive. "Bilag 20" is his printed off whitepaper with coffee stains and staples, with equations which make no sense and contain characters and fonts which didn't exist at the time. "Bliag 24" is his submitted main.cpp which is taken from a post on this forum and cuts off at the same character limit, meaning it is missing half the code. Of course CSW didn't even notice. Again, hilarious to see for yourself.
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September 27, 2022, 02:31:54 AM
#67
Besides signing a message from the genesis block address or signing a message with satoshi's PGP is there any other way to prove that CSW is Satoshi?

Can theymos provide evidence from e.g. Satoshi's private messages that CSW is lying or you think it will involve the forum in unnecessary problems of a legal nature?
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September 27, 2022, 02:25:28 AM
#66
its not about give up debunking him..
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its about doing things smarter.. out-game his game

I think that we may need both.
We need to play smarter so no new people come under his attention, or worse, gets silenced.
And we need to debunk him - in court! - in a way he will never ever get taken serious by any court in the world. And maybe even punished for his forgeries and for wasting people's time and money (plus health, since I agree with Greg, war is hell).
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September 27, 2022, 01:56:19 AM
#65
With all due respect Franky,  "he just wants attention, don't mention him" is exactly how we ended up in the situation we're in today.  It's also just not true:

its not about give up debunking him..
its not about not fighting his games

its about playing smarter

if we dont mention[full name]its hard for him to say his [full name] is being defamed

if we call a random 3letter moniker 'CSW' a fraud, scammer, idiot.. its then becomes his fault of then wanting to associate himself with this known scammer of 3 letters we talk about

yes anyone in 30 seconds can search and find the linkage.

but for [fullname] to do it. also means he then has to explain the context and the lengths of debunks we provide against CSW tactics. which he has to explain proves the linkage

thus he cant/ wont try to sue people as easily

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there are many many ways we can debunk him. and promote the debunks without promoting him and without falling into his SLAPP trap

its about doing things smarter.. out-game his game
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September 26, 2022, 10:39:23 PM
#64
With all due respect Franky,  "he just wants attention, don't mention him" is exactly how we ended up in the situation we're in today.  It's also just not true: he flies into a blind rage about anyone speaking negatively of him-- he absolutely can't tolerate it, he has screamed at people in interviews, he even threw a book in court once.  It's part of the reason that he keeps making the same mistakes even after the public has caught on and called them out: he can't stand reading people criticizing him so he doesn't always know which lies have been blown apart.  He usually only sees what bitcoiners are saying about him once the comments have been filtered through his supporters and neutralized.

He does like coverage that treats his claims seriously-- as in that they're merely disputed rather than thoroughly disproved but that isn't what anyone here is doing. It is, however, what the media does reflexively.

Edit (to avoid a double-post):  LOL  Mr. Wright's "evidence" is out: https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xp5qy9/fresh_from_oslo_craig_wrights_submitted_evidence/

The binary is so awesomely fake.  In particular, I love seeing that when he made strings shorter because the offsets needed to be preserved he space padded them... either because he didn't know better or because his hatred of me prevented him from using the much more plausible null character instead of spaces.
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September 26, 2022, 08:54:28 PM
#63
though he is a fraudster.. we should not give him more name recognitions and publicity

we should be letting his full name not hit news paper headlines.

we should however get people to learn how to do basic research and due diligence

then as 'anotheralt' just learned in 30 seconds, figures out that a certain person is a fraud

however spamming his full name everywhere doesnt help the fight against him. its actually publicises him, which is something he wants.. he wants to be known as a scam king, the guy that can steal and fake collateral and not be criminally punished. because thats HIS recruitment advert of grabbing onto more greedy idiots into his game

if we teach people to do research, due diligence and not trust strangers, or people due to just name recognition.. it helps people out more in the long term than just faming up one guy that wants fame

its the old saying .. "give a man a phish or teach a man to watch out for and catch a phish"
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September 26, 2022, 07:46:09 PM
#62
Bitcointalk account satoshi is locked by theymos to prevent brute-force, so CSW need to prove theymos that he's real Satoshi. As for [email protected] email, IIRC it was compromised on 2014.

That's interesting. I didn't know that information. So, What if satoshi ever wanted to come back? I know it's unlikely to happen. The chance is very, very low. But, I believe satoshi knows where to knock. I am wondering if there were some credentials or sensitive information about the email compromised. What if the hacker stole that information to misuse them? Well, I guess satoshi is more clever enough than most of us. So, it's implausible he will have such information in his email.

In the first place, I was confused by the term "CSW". I believe most people outside this forum don't know what CSW is. Even I googled "What is the full form of CSW?". Mr. Google said it's the "Commission on the Status of Women (CSW)." While Wikipedia shows it's a Clinical social worker. Even though it sounds silly and funny, I would still encourage people to Write Craig Steven Wright because we are talking about a Fraustar here. If people from outside the forum read this thread, they are unlikely to understand what we are talking about. I am saying this because it's happened to me as well.
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September 26, 2022, 04:52:54 PM
#61

Fundamentally, I think the issue is just with how brazen these creeps have become.  They're not worried about losing a lawsuit here or there because they think (correctly?) they're immune. The people they're attacking don't have that comfort.

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September 26, 2022, 05:41:34 AM
#60
so the question (its rhetorical and i dont need to know it. just answer it in your mind for your own enlightenment)

why after 5 years do certain people still prefer to follow the social drama narrative of lies, just to back up and be obedient to their buddy group.
rather than admit they fell for social drama lies
rather than just come clean.
rather than realise there is actual evidence that debunks the narrative. rather than admit they were wrong, get over it and move on with their lives

It's largely because of the basic egoistic nature of most people being too proud and arrogant to admit that they were in the wrong, so in order to hide that, they make nonsensical excuses which lead to more nonsensical theories and so on.
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September 26, 2022, 05:27:45 AM
#59
Now, Who supports CSW? Are there any members from this forum who are also supporting CSW?
Mainly rich idiots he has fooled in to believing his scam. There are a handful of users on this forum who pop up occasionally with their support for BSV, but usually leave after being confronted with mountains of evidence against CSW for which they have no rebuttal.

Why it's too hard to prove him wrong?
It's not, really. We all know he is wrong. He has been proved wrong multiple times, from signed messages from addresses he claimed to own calling him a fraud, through to complete dismantling of the forgeries he presents as "evidence". But CSW has been smart enough so far to make sure none of his court cases are to determine whether or not he is Satoshi (because he isn't), but are on parallel nonsense like "These tweets hurt my feelings" and "The devs are legally bound to fork the code".

They definitely are unconvincing, but that might not be the intention at all. CSW knows he's not Satoshi, and knows the public knows that too. He also knows he has no proof to convince us otherwise, so rather than convincing, he's intention might be to bully everyone to at best, not challenge his stand that he indeed is Satoshi, even if you do not believe it.
100% this.

It is funny that when checking his forgery wright didn't even notice wingdings replacing his mathmatics. Tongue
Easily explained by the fact CSW does not understand the math in the whitepaper and therefore had no idea his forgery was incorrect. There are similar instances of him incorrectly plagiarizing equations in many of his academic publications and not realizing his mistakes because he doesn't understand what he is plagiarizing.
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September 26, 2022, 04:47:29 AM
#58
They will take money from the rubes on twitter for sure-- but most of those folks aren't a rounding error in terms of the cost of their litigation. They are spending many millions on litigation.  Do the math on what they're likely getting from the rabble.  Pretending to just be trolls that want attention is part of the disguise that creates an ineffective response to the attack.
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September 26, 2022, 04:23:51 AM
#57
you have to remember 2 key points about CSW motives
1. he doesnt care, win or lose..
2. he sees each public event he attends, every debate, every interaction, every court case as a recruitment campaign..

Very important to be reminded about. He's not the only one out there who already do not give a damn about their reputation (or are unable to give a damn due to some socio-psychological issue).

They want followers, they want exposure, visibility. Because for every one of us who can pinpoint his forgery/fraud, there will be many more who don't, who believe CW, who buy him and want more. I know, because I've met some of them!

So perhaps, we need to be careful about feeding that flame.
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September 26, 2022, 02:50:49 AM
#56
My personal favorite is where the ">" symbol is changed to a "<" symbol in a different font, not only making the forgery completely obvious, but also making the equations in the whitepaper incorrect and meaningless. The true work of Satoshi. Lol.
To be fair, that change alone would be consistent with it being a "draft" that he supposedly fixed.  What blows that up is that it's the correct symbol in the other font.  So it was impossible for it to be an error, the wrong character had to come from being substituted with a font that didn't exist until long after the paper's supposed date. Same issue that lambda has.  It is funny that when checking his forgery wright didn't even notice wingdings replacing his mathmatics. Tongue

but he really is well versed in his theology degree and he uses it more then any other degree he supposedly has
Ironically, the theology degree is almost certainly the fakest of them all. It looks like the situation there was that he wanted varrious masters degrees for self promotion purposes and learned that his crackerjack school would grant credit for IT certificates (which are done via computer based testing, which presumably he cheated at). But a problem he should have faced there is that he had no undergraduate degree to meet the prerequisites. So he cooked up a fake theology degree because who the heck is going to check on that?

They definitely are unconvincing, but that might not be the intention at all. CSW knows he's not Satoshi, and knows the public knows that too. He also knows he has no proof to convince us otherwise, so rather than convincing, he's intention might be to bully everyone to at best, not challenge his stand that he indeed is Satoshi, even if you do not believe it.

This sort of trial is straining on those involved. Hodlonaut would have wanted none of this publicity and financial demands that comes with the suit, many others would also not want that. So bullying people to silence, would leave none to challenge his stance or proof the inaccuracies in his position to the world, or court.

I think harassment and intimidation is clearly a primary motivation-- he's pretty much said so himself in some of his more unhinged rants on his public slack (during hodl he was falsely alleging that the slack was private: Not so, not any more than a newspaper you have to pay for a subscription to is private).

Mr. Wright himself must know that he has zero chance in court-- even where he might have the chance of a massively confused court he manages to submit enough easily beyond-a-reasonable-doubt-provable-forgeries that his eventual loss is guaranteed.   But the same may not be true for the people financing him (and paying for his lifestyle).  I think it's likely that he's suckered various high-wealth-low-scruples people into thinking that they're going to "won all the cases" and get a jackpot of tens of billions of dollars.

It's really just a new take on a very classic con:  I convince you that I'm a card hustling savant but down on my luck because I got caught by the last casino (AU tax office) and now I can't finance my big comeback. The mark gets the idea of financing me so I can take down the big win (convince some court to magically award Satoshis Bitcoin), and I accept a split with the mark.  I pretend to work with the mark to get the big score, but I'm really just pocketing as much of the mark's money as I can while I keep dragging out the conclusion.   The fact that I can use the process to harass and intimidate anyone who gets in my way is just a super bonus.

God knows what they could pull off if they really did manage to silence and intimidate everyone.

Before being the target of litigation I really didn't appreciate how taxing it is.  Especially being in a prolonged situation where you can count on any word you speak being heavily misconstrued, where you have no hope of a gain only a hope of minimizing losses,  where your future schedule is dictated by what is by all appearances an organized crime group directed by a madman. Where you don't know if you will be hit with millions of dollars in costs if donors run into issues or be forced to abandon a competent defense if you can't pay them. Lately they've been trying like hell to silence me off the internet completely.

It's like how people romanticize war, but war is not romantic-- it's hell.  While I'm sure being the target of litigation is not comparable to war,  there are some similarities-- your future being taken out of your hands, the constant powerless *waiting* for the next disaster to strike commanding a immediate emergency response, and the fact that any misstep could guarantee your loss, even against a generally incompetent opponent. Lots of people want to help but there is really little anyone else can do except sending supplies... And while normally litigation doesn't involve the risk of death, when dealing with a criminal cartel that thinks you're in the way of billions of dollars in profit that risk can't be discounted completely (certainly there have been enough threats, including by wright himself).





FWIW, I was on the webex for most of the trial and so I directly heard all the parts in English --there were quite a few that haven't been published-- and had some other translation of much of the rest.  Based on the twitter feeds I think Hodlo's position is looking good, but my impression from the trial was even stronger.  There were a number of cases where I was disappointed to not hear Holdonaut's lawyer press a witness only for the *judge* to turn around and do so.

There were a number of cases of perjury that should be prosecutable but experience says that just won't happen.

In general the Norwegian courts came across as very ... soft. Not pressing witnesses into corners when it seemed likely that doing so would yield an admission or a contradiction,  I guess we'll see if that translates into an equally soft rulings.  The judge very much was paying attention and asked many highly intelligent questions.





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September 26, 2022, 02:20:44 AM
#55
so all these alternative means are hardly convincing and even many times go the opposite of what CSW is supposed to be trying to show (that he is Satoshi).
They definitely are unconvincing, but that might not be the intention at all. CSW knows he's not Satoshi, and knows the public knows that too. He also knows he has no proof to convince us otherwise, so rather than convincing, he's intention might be to bully everyone to at best, not challenge his stand that he indeed is Satoshi, even if you do not believe it.

This sort of trial is straining on those involved. Hodlonaut would have wanted none of this publicity and financial demands that comes with the suit, many others would also not want that. So bullying people to silence, would leave none to challenge his stance or proof the inaccuracies in his position to the world, or court.
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September 25, 2022, 04:21:19 PM
#54
Are there any members from this forum who are also supporting CSW?
Why it's too hard to prove him wrong? It's been a few years already. You guys won't be able to win or lose, and it will hang like this for a decade until the court has some intelligent judge.

....... It's another proof that he is not Satoshi.....

Of course in the court system, depending on the kind of case that is litigated, there might be some questions about whether CSW is actually Satoshi, and many times, there is no need to really answer that question in terms of whether anyone needs to prove that CSW is not satoshi.. because the burden is actually (or should be) on CSW to show that he is Satoshi.. not for others to prove that he is not.

Of course, the lower threshold has been met many times, including 2015/2016 when CSW started becoming quite vocal about supposedly being Satoshi and never actually proving it when he has the burden to prove it.

So the court cases get confusing depending on what is the issue that is being discussed, and in a court case like this, the initial lawsuit was in the UK filed by CSW saying that Hodlonaut had sufficiently defamed CSW and caused damage to CSW through such defamations.  So the trial was filed in Norway in order to attempt to preempt the ability to go forward with the UK trial to establish that Hodlonaut could not be sued in the UK over such issue because the Norway courts had resolved the matter. 

So then sometimes there can be questions regarding who has the burden of proof and who has the burdens to produce evidence, and these kinds of issues will vary from court to court in terms of what kinds of questions that the court believes that it is attempting to resolve so then there would be questions in terms of whether the charging party has met its burden of production and its burden of proof.. so in this case Hodlonaut had become the charging party because he was trying to preclude the bringing of the case in which CSW had been the charging party.

But if we get back to the question of defamation and whether Hodlonaut had based his accusations (defamation) against CSW in ways that were sufficiently reasonable and fair in terms of what others had thought about CSW based on information then available during the times of the allegedly defamatory statements, but then there can be some value in producing evidence to show that the alleged defamatory statements were actually true, even though when there is not exactly freedom of speech in some locations, then the truth of the statements might not even be a complete defense to whether a person could end up being liable if there are assertions that the statements in themselves had caused the damages (in this case damages to CSW's reputation and even income capabilities). 

I guess part of my point is that questions regarding who has what burdens can become confused, even though the court will likely come out with a decision to say whether or not Hodlonaut met his burden to sufficiently establish that he had not defamed CSW to a high enough level that would preemptively cause the Norway case from being able to be decided in the UK because the matter had already been sufficiently resolved by the Norway case.

No matter what the court says, it would be enough to establish CSW as not being Satoshi, and I am sure that they would get a lot of pushback if they were to proclaim that he is Satoshi, but in either case, the vast majority of regular bitcoiners (and even shitcoiners) realize that CSW has the burden of production and the burden of proof to show that he is Satoshi and he has not even come close to meeting either of those burdens... the burden of production would be providing signed keys from known satoshi blocks and the burden of proof would be to convince us that those signed keys were valid and that those really are satoshi blocks or whatever further argumentation that might be needed to connect the evidence provided with the logic regarding why CSW is satoshi... which many of us know that if CSW had the capabilities to accomplish such, he would have already done it... so all these alternative means are hardly convincing and even many times go the opposite of what CSW is supposed to be trying to show (that he is Satoshi).


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September 25, 2022, 03:24:15 PM
#53
Well, well, well. A lot of things are happening here. I saw the previous thread but didn't bother to read the OP. So, I didn't get what was happening. Yesterday I noticed a thread on Meta, and I came from there to an unmoderated thread than here. I read a few articles and then most of the posts. I was wondering what the heck CSW is. I was aware of this fraudster and knew that some legal action was taken against him. That's back in 2020, I guess. I didn't know who filed the case. That's why I didn't understand the Term Hodlonaut. That's all before reading the BitcoinMagazine timeline.

Now, Who supports CSW? Are there any members from this forum who are also supporting CSW?
Why it's too hard to prove him wrong? It's been a few years already. You guys won't be able to win or lose, and it will hang like this for a decade until the court has some intelligent judge. They don't even understand the mechanism of Bitcoin. At least their lawyer should be more educated about Bitcoin. Just Ask CSW to sign a message from Satoshi's Bitcoin Address. Ask him to Access His Bitcointalk account. Ask him to access the email: [email protected]. He needs all those to prove his claim, and I know he won't be able to do that. I wonder how the court will judge them if they don't understand the mechanism. CSW is getting special attention from the Bitcoin community. By Attending every press conference and other places, he promoted his scams, and people knew about his project. It's another proof that he is not Satoshi. Why would Satoshi need to create another coin with the same supply while Bitcoin dominates the market?
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