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legendary
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October 21, 2022, 04:52:08 PM

Craig is Chief Scientist of NChain.

let me translate

he is the chief spokes person of many companies he and his team created, where he gets other people to code .. that is not a scientist. thats a "manager"

its about as useful as saying that dick wolf is the executive producer of thousands of tv episodes. yet if you see his day to day activities, he is never onset of any of them all the time

CSW does not have good coding skills. in all of his businesses he has had "ghost writers" he employs to develop things. heck he even employed kids to write his assignments for his degrees

it would be more apt if he titled himself a CTO (technology officer) rather than science.

CSW has a theology mindset, he believes in getting people to believe his is someone others should believe in without proof... that is again not science
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as for who is behind hodlonaut. well there are court documents that reveal hodlonaut birth name. but we respect hodlonaut to not mention/repeat on the forum because its not important

as for hodlonaut actions.. just because there are many people before hodlonaut that called out on CSW scams does not mean their is someone behind hodlonaut puppeteering him. from what i have seen he has done his own research and came to his own conclusions and wrote things in his own mindset of his well researched opinion of CSW. as have others. this does not mean there is some puppet master agenda. this means many people have found CSW to be a fool, scammer and liar and we all independently want to inform and remind everyone not to become a cult like follower of a scammer and liar
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
October 21, 2022, 04:29:25 PM
*nonsense from a nuisance*

I really doubt that there is someone behind Hodlonaut's back. Mr. Faketoshi is just trying to scare the ppl who put their voice up against his claims.

Or, put another way, near enough the entire Bitcoin community has Hodlonaut's back.  And that's great.  BitcoinMoses clearly isn't on this forum to raise any valid points.  They're just here to be an irksome, antagonistic troll.  If they had worthwhile insights into anything other than how to be an annoying shit-for-brains, I'd be very surprised.  Funny how they always seem to show up with feeble attempts to sow seeds of doubt in any topic where Faketoshi comes up.   Almost as though they had some sort of agenda.   Roll Eyes
legendary
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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(
October 21, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
You all seems celebrating Hodlonaut's victory !  But have got any clues who is behind Hodlonut ?

The whole  case seems to me was a great setup for Craig to win and file another  case against all the Bitcoin Developers.

Craig is Chief Scientist of NChain. Who is the Chief scientist of Blockchain ?  You might say Gavin Bell (Anderson) but is he ?  What is the position of Craig now in the Bitcoin and Blockchain Space ?

I think he is a very good actor as Faketoshi. On the interrogation he admitted that he is Faketoshi.
 

I really doubt that there is someone behind Hodlonaut's back. Mr. Faketoshi is just trying to scare the ppl who put their voice up against his claims. But also he is focusing on people with less resources and not so techy like Hodlonaut and  Peter McCormack hoping that he can make some easy wins (imagine the price for 9 lawyers in Norway!). I wonder why he didn't go after Buterin? Mr.Eth has x10 followers, and stated officially his position against faketoshi, he has done way more "damage" (lmao ... sorry) than our space cat.
member
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I Am Satoshi Nakamoto
October 21, 2022, 03:09:02 PM
You all seems celebrating Hodlonaut's victory !  But have got any clues who is behind Hodlonut ?

The whole  case seems to me was a great setup for Craig to win and file another  case against all the Bitcoin Developers.

Craig is Chief Scientist of NChain. Who is the Chief scientist of Blockchain ?  You might say Gavin Bell (Anderson) but is he ?  What is the position of Craig now in the Bitcoin and Blockchain Space ?

I think he is a very good actor as Faketoshi. On the interrogation he admitted that he is Faketoshi.
 
legendary
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October 21, 2022, 02:00:42 PM
Meanwhile, they are strangely quiet regarding this subject on their coingeek propaganda website.
Looks like they are far too busy with the fact that BSV has been constantly under attack for the last several days, with multiple forks, multiple reorgs, and a single miner controlling well in excess of 51% of the hashrate and just spamming the network with empty blocks. At one point in the last 24 hours the unknown miner found 14 consecutive blocks in the space of 30 minutes. The chance of the network finding at least 14 blocks in 30 minutes at normal hashrates is 0.0003%, suggesting this malicious miner is absolutely dwarfing the hashrate of the rest of the network and could just choose to shut down the entire network by mining only empty blocks and ignoring all other blocks at any time.

That's almost as a big a failure as CSW's performance in this trial. Wink
legendary
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October 21, 2022, 08:56:49 AM
So not only are Hodlonaut's tweets not unlawful, and not only does the court order CSW to pay Hodlonaut ~4 million NOK (which is around $380,000 USD), but the court is pretty clear that all the evidence points to CSW being a fraud.
Not a bad profit at all for Hodlonaut in this trial, and CSW could pay even more when they file an appeal.
He did have to dox himself in this process, but he proved his point once again and he represented Bitcoin community in a great way.
Meanwhile, they are strangely quiet regarding this subject on their coingeek propaganda website.
So much fun following Hodlonaut twitter account  Cheesy
 
legendary
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October 21, 2022, 03:18:24 AM
its $660k of which $460k is the lawyers costs and $100k for the KMPG expert data
That's what Hodlonaut claimed for, but the court did not award him the full amount.

anyway next social drama i can see CSW play
They've already said they will appeal the ruling. Can't wait for them to lose even more money and for the outcome not to change. Wink

Let's not also forget to thank Hodlonaut's lawyers, Ørjan Salvesen Haukaas and Marie Bjørk Myklebust, for delivering such a robust case and a resounding win for the whole bitcoin community.
legendary
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October 21, 2022, 02:28:16 AM
as for calvin ayres

i think he just outted himself as a pedo

his crap story as a freelance sex traffic task force officer.. thats complete bullcrap. its obvious he fears some of CSW court trials may end up with ayres computers being seized as evidence and when they find kiddy crap on his computer he wants to have a plausible "white hat" story for why he has such crap on his computer
or if found at some illegal underage brothel he wants a reason to make it sound good as to why..

Wouldn't it be so ironic if an unrelated lawsuit turns into him where the prosecutors are the government who want to lock up Ayre in jail for possessing that stuff, Epstein style?

Oops... CSW loses his main backer.
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
October 21, 2022, 02:09:15 AM
legendary
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October 21, 2022, 01:11:29 AM
Thank you!!! Finally, Mr. Wrong was proven wrong... Next step is confirmation of the same statement in UK!!

Interesting to see how the law works in the UK given that Cobra did not even attempt to put up a case when he was sued by CSW - so we don't have much info on whether the UK courts would be as knowledgeable and straightforward as their Norwegian counterparts.

Will hodlonaut be able to use the same evidence in the UK court which he used in Norway?

If yes then surely they have to see it as it is and see the absolute lies which CSW has
engaged in?

Surely the same report which KPMG were tasked with can be called upon for "any" trial
going forward? the facts which were uncovered won't change from country to case.
legendary
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October 20, 2022, 04:02:04 PM
So not only are Hodlonaut's tweets not unlawful, and not only does the court order CSW to pay Hodlonaut ~4 million NOK (which is around $380,000 USD), but the court is pretty clear that all the evidence points to CSW being a fraud.

Good news. So what happens to Craig now?
anyway next social drama i can see CSW play
a. pretend he made payments using false documents. and drag out another case to cause disruption trying to prove/disprove payment
b. claim CSW never said he was satoshi but the surviving member of team satoshi where all patents and ownerships are locked up in some inaccessible trust not able to release at this point. thus try to reignoite his long con
c. say he lost the defame case due to hodlonaut not being the first guy to out CSW and then start suing people from earlier debunks

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as for calvin ayres

i think he just outted himself as a pedo

his crap story as a freelance sex traffic task force officer.. thats complete bullcrap. its obvious he fears some of CSW court trials may end up with ayres computers being seized as evidence and when they find kiddy crap on his computer he wants to have a plausible "white hat" story for why he has such crap on his computer
or if found at some illegal underage brothel he wants a reason to make it sound good as to why..
legendary
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October 20, 2022, 01:01:23 PM
This isn't just a win for Hodlonaut; this is a complete loss and utter failure for CSW.

I've only had a very quick read of the translated ruling Greg shared above, but here are a few of my favorite quotes (I have taken the liberty of amending a few grammatical errors in the translations):
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It is clear that Wright did not carry out a signing with keys belonging to Nakamoto, but there is disagreement as to what the purpose of the sessions was.
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In the court's opinion, these statements [the tweets] have a core of a factual nature, particularly related to Wright lying about being Satoshi Nakamoto and that his attempts to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto are cheating/fraud.
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The court believes that [Hodlonaut] had sufficient factual grounds to claim that Wright had lied and cheated in his attempt to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.
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However, statements from these witnesses [CSW's witnesses] relating to whether or not he is Satoshi Nakamoto are not supported by contemporary evidence.
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The court points out that the evidence brought in the case is not suitable to change the prevailing opinion that Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

So not only are Hodlonaut's tweets not unlawful, and not only does the court order CSW to pay Hodlonaut ~4 million NOK (which is around $380,000 USD), but the court is pretty clear that all the evidence points to CSW being a fraud.
legendary
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October 20, 2022, 12:48:13 PM
Thank you!!! Finally, Mr. Wrong was proven wrong... Next step is confirmation of the same statement in UK!!

Interesting to see how the law works in the UK given that Cobra did not even attempt to put up a case when he was sued by CSW - so we don't have much info on whether the UK courts would be as knowledgeable and straightforward as their Norwegian counterparts.
legendary
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October 20, 2022, 12:41:38 PM
Good news. So what happens to Craig now?
I am sure he is going to continue with his lawsuits with other people in other countries, because this is only related with country Norway.
Judge ruled that is lied and cheated to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, so it's confirmed again he is a fraud.
He won't go in jail for sure (maybe he should) but I am expecting he is going to pay a lot of money to Hodlonaut aka Magnus now  Cheesy

Probably also a bunch of gaslighting to allege that he actually won in Norway.
Let me take a quick look at their propaganda website coingeek...title say ''Granath v Wright Oslo verdict: Hodlonaut not liable for defamation in Norway''.
They claim this is only ''Round One'' and they will continue parallel defamation case in the United Kingdom next year.
CSW can always file an appeal but I think next on line is Peter McCormack, according to them.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
October 20, 2022, 12:16:50 PM
He gets called out as a liar, an impostor, a fraud and a conman at every turn for the rest of his life.
Not enough. Zero ethics make you immune to such offends. I want him behind the bars.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
October 20, 2022, 11:57:59 AM
Good news. So what happens to Craig now?

He gets called out as a liar, an impostor, a fraud and a conman at every turn for the rest of his life.  The usual I-am-not-a-lawyer disclaimer applies, but it sounds as though legal precedent is on our side should any of us decide to publicly dismantle Wright's facade in a humiliating fashion.

It's open-season on shady scumbag identity thieves.    Smiley
legendary
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
October 20, 2022, 11:53:34 AM
Man, am I glad this is over and true justice is served. Although in the case of Craig Wrong, it would be true justice if he was sent to a mental health facility which cures him of his seemingly psychopathic mental state. Or at least keeps him away from the public where he can do no more harm.

Egotistical, petty, delusional and power hungry. These types of people are always trying to screw other people over to make themselves richer/more powerful/etc. Although who knows, this might all be a giant ploy to get Satoshi to reveal himself. Not that I am much of a conspiracy theorist but I do enjoy the occasional conspiracy.

Anyway, great news for the Hodlnaut. Hopefully we will see some more good news in the coming days about Bitcoin adoption, after all this free BTC PR thanks to faketoshi. Grin


Fundamentally, I think the issue is just with how brazen these creeps have become.  They're not worried about losing a lawsuit here or there because they think (correctly?) they're immune. The people they're attacking don't have that comfort.



Hire some pirates to start sinking yachts in international waters/or docked in third-world South American countries and we will see most of this trash disappear in a few years.
sr. member
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October 20, 2022, 11:48:28 AM

Fundamentally, I think the issue is just with how brazen these creeps have become.  They're not worried about losing a lawsuit here or there because they think (correctly?) they're immune. The people they're attacking don't have that comfort.


Pedophile or what? Shocked
legendary
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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(
October 20, 2022, 11:24:06 AM
Damn, I cannot wait until 8th of November. Getting exiting already...
Fortunately, you don't have to: https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1583086284792205312

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[Hodlonaut] won the case. He is therefore basically entitled to full compensation for his reasonable and necessary legal costs

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The court believes that [Hodlonaut] had sufficient factual grounds to claim that Wright had lied and cheated in his attempt to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. At the time of the remarks, there was public discussion about whether Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto or not. In media coverage, the prevailing opinion was that Wright was not Satoshi Nakamoto. The court refers to the previously mentioned articles from Gizmodo (2015), and BBC News The Guardian and GQ Magazine (2016). Both parties have tried to prove that Wright is and is not Satoshi Nakamoto, respectively. The court points out that the evidence brought in the case is not suitable to change the prevailing opinion that Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

Thank you!!! Finally, Mr. Wrong was proven wrong... Next step is confirmation of the same statement in UK!!
That's another great news after bsv fee statement and "freezing" and the legal threats and turning the miners against him...
legendary
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October 20, 2022, 11:02:50 AM
I got a tweet notification from Norbert, the first thing I saw was... 🎉

Like Lucius
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I was convinced that there would be no other outcome than this

And is indeed great to see a court of law finally state what we all knew.

We have many anniversaries in Bitcoin world I think this is another "hodlonaut day"
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