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You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? Grin

But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting. Now what?

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?

I'll get the firewood.

Ahah! Yeah thanks for the help buddy but let be honest they we gonna need a HELLA lot of wood! xD

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LOL. Guys let's not sink to their level. They've been burning people alive for ages (still doing it), we are better than that.

I thought you agreed with Moloch

Make up your mind

I care about people too much to harm them never mind to burn them alive.

I think religious people are insane, they need years of de-programming, most of them are harmless.

But there are those that take their religious texts too seriously and want to kill others for no reason other than what the holy text says.

I'm a humanist and anti-theist (for obvious reasons).

Take care.

It's obviously logical to talk about insanity.

Religious beliefs could perfectly be considered as a mental illness in fact ^^

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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity".
Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe.

I'm all for free speech. It flushes out the crazies out of their foxholes.

It is easier to expose the nonsense they spout. If you ban them from speaking, they will not go away.
You will not even know how many you have.

At least with free speech they have a chance (over time) to see what is wrong with their way of thinking.

Well free speech isn't such an important value around here. Why? I couldn't say so. But I'm sure it's important to take care about what you're saying and the consequences

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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity".
Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe.

Personally I wouldn't care what people say about gays, but the fact that I'm not allowed to say my opinion, that's not right at all.

Well you got the right to say anything like "I don't like gays" or "I find them disgusting".
But you can't insult them publicly or say shit like "they shouldn't live"

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I use to be religious, even was preparing to be a preacher, when my religion lost me.

The Pharisees were about to stone a prostitute, Jesus specifically came to her defense (giving us the let he who is without sin quote), turned to her, and told her specifically "There is no one left to condemn you, neither do I"

The exact opposite of what organized religion does with anyone they call a "sinner"

When I tried bringing this to the attention of religious leaders in my church, that we were doing the exact opposite of the example Jesus gave us to do, it is like I was kicked out of the club - and it became clear to me that religion is not about making the world a better place, but is about abusing religious authority as a means of controlling people.

I won't have anything to do with organized religion.

It was a fraud when peace makers like Jesus walked the earth (he constantly clashed with them), and it is a fraud today.

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LOL. Guys let's not sink to their level. They've been burning people alive for ages (still doing it), we are better than that.

I thought you agreed with Moloch

Make up your mind

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You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? Grin

But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting. Now what?

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?

I'll get the firewood.

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Quote from: runpaint on February 18, 2016, 09:54:42 AM

So beliefs should be illegal?

You are spreading a belief that says we shouldn't be allowed the right to free speech,
and that the government should have control over our thoughts and feelings.

Your belief is hateful and offensive.

Therefore, you could be arrested under the law that you support.

Lol.
No we're just saying that's how thing work in Europe.
It's like gun freedom, those are aspects of society really different between USA and Europe. Too diferent to actually judge them I think.

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Quote from: mainpmf on February 18, 2016, 09:40:38 AM

Well it's not what happens in Europe ^^
Those laws were made in order to protect people and prevent them from spreading hateful beliefs.

So beliefs should be illegal?

You are spreading a belief that says we shouldn't be allowed the right to free speech,
and that the government should have control over our thoughts and feelings.

Your belief is hateful and offensive.

Therefore, you could be arrested under the law that you support.

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I'm all for free speech. It flushes out the crazies out of their foxholes.

It is easier to expose the nonsense they spout. If you ban them from speaking, they will not go away.
You will not even know how many you have.

At least with free speech they have a chance (over time) to see what is wrong with their way of thinking.

Well it's not what happens in Europe ^^
Those laws were made in order to protect people and prevent them from spreading hateful beliefs.
But I agree, it's not because they can't talk publicly that they won't talk anyway.

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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity".
Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe.

Personally I wouldn't care what people say about gays, but the fact that I'm not allowed to say my opinion, that's not right at all.

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Quote from: eon89 on February 18, 2016, 08:47:53 AM

Quote from: runpaint on February 18, 2016, 08:41:14 AM

Quote from: eon89 on February 18, 2016, 08:25:53 AM

Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity".
Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe.

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Quote from: runpaint on February 18, 2016, 08:16:23 AM

Can you? People want to make your disgust illegal.

I've never stopped any same-sex couples from calling themselves married, but I've been stopped from saying my opinion on countless forums, subreddits, comment sections, and in real life.

I could be arrested in Scotland for what I've posted here.
I could be denied entry to Canada.

So if you're against forbidding things, it's a complex issue.

I see your point and it's a good one.

You should have the right to say "I don't like homos".
But you shouldn't have the right to interfere in their life in any way.

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Quote from: eon89 on February 18, 2016, 08:25:53 AM

Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

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Quote from: eon89 on February 18, 2016, 08:25:53 AM

Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe.

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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

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You're almost getting it.

Yes, you can argue that, but only if you argue the same against the person I was responding to.

Either all behavior is natural and therefore above moral reproach, or it's not.

Do you believe that sexual preferences are natural?

Do you believe that homosexuals naturally find heterosexual sex disgusting?

Why do you believe that some people's sexual preferences are genetic, while other people's sexual preferences are evil religion?

Do you think you have some moral authority to condemn people's involuntary physiological reactions to sexual stimuli?

If a homosexual pornographic image gives one man an erection and makes another man vomit, why do you feel the need to call one man hateful?

And if the image is heterosexual and makes the homosexual man vomit, why do you change your explanation from "hateful" to "natural"?

Oh but that's not the problem.
It can make you vomit. I wouldn't touch another man, I find it disgusting.

The problem is not what you think of it. The problem is if you want to forbid it. The problem is if you don't want to give the same rights to homosexuals and heterosexuals ^^
Other wise you can have whatever opinion you want!

Can you? People want to make your disgust illegal.

I've never stopped any same-sex couples from calling themselves married, but I've been stopped from saying my opinion on countless forums, subreddits, comment sections, and in real life.

I could be arrested in Scotland for what I've posted here.
I could be denied entry to Canada.

So if you're against forbidding things, it's a complex issue.

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They can have the same rights every normal human being has.
But not special rights because they are gay.
And not having special pronouns.
And certainly not getting married.

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nonsense

Why do you think people get married and stay together for 50 years?

You say love is something on the level of a primary school child, but it takes more than that to keep families together.

Children need their parents. Since all babies come from sexual reproduction between one man and one woman, we have marriage so those children will have their parents.

A pregnant woman needs someone to provide for her, so she makes the man agree that he won't be off getting other women pregnant and providing for them instead. A man doesn't want to work every day to provide for someone else's children instead of his own, so he makes the woman agree that she won't be getting pregnant by other men.

If you know where babies come from, you can see how marriage is all about children. Even if a woman can't get pregnant, she still needs her husband to provide for her instead of sleeping around and spending his money on other women.

Because the government started paying women to raise children away from fathers - providing for women's needs with men's tax money - we have millions of boys who grew up with no male role model. So they act like their moms, believing that life is all about attracting a different man every week for attention and self-esteem.

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Quote from: runpaint on February 18, 2016, 07:23:04 AM

You're almost getting it.

Yes, you can argue that, but only if you argue the same against the person I was responding to.

Either all behavior is natural and therefore above moral reproach, or it's not.

Do you believe that sexual preferences are natural?

Do you believe that homosexuals naturally find heterosexual sex disgusting?

Why do you believe that some people's sexual preferences are genetic, while other people's sexual preferences are evil religion?

Do you think you have some moral authority to condemn people's involuntary physiological reactions to sexual stimuli?

If a homosexual pornographic image gives one man an erection and makes another man vomit, why do you feel the need to call one man hateful?

And if the image is heterosexual and makes the homosexual man vomit, why do you change your explanation from "hateful" to "natural"?

Oh but that's not the problem.
It can make you vomit. I wouldn't touch another man, I find it disgusting.

The problem is not what you think of it. The problem is if you want to forbid it. The problem is if you don't want to give the same rights to homosexuals and heterosexuals ^^
Other wise you can have whatever opinion you want!

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