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Topic: How do we get the women on board? - page 10. (Read 38370 times)

full member
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August 16, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
Some members here might be sexist. -- Bitcoin, in itself, is non-discriminatory.

Cheers,
Kermee
newbie
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August 16, 2011, 03:37:21 PM
Women don't have to adopt btc, they want to have btc. Or a boyfriend with a LOT of btc. Give them a boyfriend with a lot of btc and ta dah they will adopt them instantly

Woman don't want BTC. They want stuff like jewelry and the latest fashion. Or a boyfriend who can give them lots of that. If BTC can give them lots of that, ta dah they will adopt them instantly.

So we just need to convince a few upper management at LV, Gucci, Prada etc... Cheesy
legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
August 16, 2011, 03:33:35 PM
Women don't have to adopt btc, they want to have btc. Or a boyfriend with a LOT of btc. Give them a boyfriend with a lot of btc and ta dah they will adopt them instantly
newbie
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August 16, 2011, 03:30:15 PM
... tolerating things that you don't like is a necessary cost of living in a free society.

Hmmmm no I don't agree that people have to tolerate things they don't like. In the case of these forums and btc, it is obvious women don't like them and have not "tolerated" them. That's why they're not here and why they haven't adopted btc. That's the whole reason for this thread. "How do we get women on board?" People get on board with things they like, they don't get on board with things they merely "tolerate." Women, in particular, get on board when they feel safe. Intelligent, business oriented women who have families, who are the ones I presume the btc leadership would prefer to have first as opposed to uneducated women, won't hang around here in droves because it's not safe. And btc is not safe to hold. There is no "off the shelf" product that makes btc easy to use and very safe to carry.

These are the facts about intelligent, educated, business oriented women who also have or want children. I'm not talking about party girls here. You are of course free to disagree with me. But keep in mind one thing: the current btc marketing strategy (if it can even be called that, if there is even such a thing, yet which this board plays a part) has NOT attracted women by and large. Perhaps a change of strategy is in order. Isn't this also free market - realizing something needs to change because a HUGE segment of the market is not participating, then making the necessary change to bring in that segment?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 16, 2011, 03:13:38 PM

 Women trust other women.






Notice the color of her blouse/dress.
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August 16, 2011, 03:06:49 PM
Some people like porn, and some are offended by it. I don't see how that is a gender issue, since I know both men and women who fall into each category. Any free marketplace of sufficient size is likely to see trade in some commodity that somebody doesn't approve of, but tolerating things that you don't like is a necessary cost of living in a free society.

Similarly, what does gender have to do with whether a person knows how to secure their wallet?

I agree that asking random professionals to do one's homework is childish and rude, and I also agree that people who present themselves online as women are likely to get vigorously leg-humped by immature, undersexed, socially inept people. This is the least vigorously moderated forum that I regularly participate in, so I tend to notice more of that behavior here. I would not object to this forum's moderators taking a firmer stance on people being jerks to each other here.
legendary
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August 16, 2011, 02:27:33 PM
That post make "women" look like "special people"  Undecided

Omg someone has porn in his signature, we are doomed  Undecided
legendary
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August 16, 2011, 02:16:18 PM
Moving on, assuming that my belief is correct, the question is how we get them on board?

I am a woman who was drawn to btc for ideological reasons. I found this board a few months ago. I have to say that this board is not an example of a community that values the input of women. There is a tremendous amount of misogyny here. So these forums are not safe for women, not at all. Women can't come here to be educated without being offended or verbally harassed. For example, there is somebody here who has, as his sig, a site for bitporn. Do the board mods really believe that women want to see that sort of thing? Do they think intelligent, business oriented women don't notice or care about that?

For myself, when I put an ad for my accounting services in exchange for btc, I got asked twice to do somebody's accounting homework. Another troll asked if the photo on my homepage was of me naked. Neither of these comments were taken down by the board admin, and they should have been.

It starts with the leadership. If the leaders of the btc community do not want women here, which definitely seems to be the case, then the tone of the boards will be anti woman.

Also, the average woman won't know how to store btc safely. Remember one thing for women: we want safety. If/when btc becomes safe to store and carry, we'll be on board in droves. Until that time, we won't touch it, not in any real way.

The boards need to be a safe place to learn and ask questions, and btc needs to be safely stored without needing an IT degree to figure it out. Getting those two things in line will go along way to attracting intelligent women to btc.

+1 (I came so close to typing +[insert THAT two digit number], but that would have proven her point immensely)

This is a very well thought out post with great talking points.
newbie
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August 16, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
Moving on, assuming that my belief is correct, the question is how we get them on board?

I am a woman who was drawn to btc for ideological reasons. I found this board a few months ago. I have to say that this board is not an example of a community that values the input of women. There is a tremendous amount of misogyny here. So these forums are not safe for women, not at all. Women can't come here to be educated without being offended or verbally harassed. For example, there is somebody here who has, as his sig, a site for bitporn. Do the board mods really believe that women want to see that sort of thing? Do they think intelligent, business oriented women don't notice or care about that?

For myself, when I put an ad for my accounting services in exchange for btc, I got asked twice to do somebody's accounting homework. Another troll asked if the photo on my homepage was of me naked. Neither of these comments were taken down by the board admin, and they should have been.

It starts with the leadership. If the leaders of the btc community do not want women here, which definitely seems to be the case, then the tone of the boards will be anti woman.

Also, the average woman won't know how to store btc safely. Remember one thing for women: we want safety. If/when btc becomes safe to store and carry, we'll be on board in droves. Until that time, we won't touch it, not in any real way.

The boards need to be a safe place to learn and ask questions, and btc needs to be safely stored without needing an IT degree to figure it out. Getting those two things in line will go along way to attracting intelligent women to btc.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 09, 2011, 01:12:28 PM
I see we got two more women on board:

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 08, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
What influx?

My statement was tongue-in-cheek, unless I didn't get the memo on the influx.
sr. member
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August 08, 2011, 04:58:17 PM
What influx?

You, MsBitcoin, and one other... that's like 300% growth! Up up up!
hero member
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August 08, 2011, 03:46:26 PM
What influx?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 08, 2011, 03:09:00 PM
Did the influx of women accepting Bitcoin as their new currency option cause the demise of this thread?
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August 02, 2011, 03:57:34 PM
People make wrong assumptions based on stupidly small and biased samples.  You are a good example of this.  You don't know all stereotypes, in fact it's likely you only know a small fraction of stereotypes and that fraction is biased by geography and self-selection and generally poor education in statistics and/or logic (i.e. not understanding that even if most avid shoe shoppers are women does not imply that most women are avid shoe shoppers).  From this you have generalized that this says something about all stereotypes.  Not only that but I'd wager you probably don't know many of the true values (i.e. How many Americans really are X). 

This one paragraph wins.  It is so full of stereotypes about people that believe in stereotypes

*sigh* No. 

Much of that paragraph is refuting one persons stereotype (about stereotypes if we weren't getting "meta" enough).  There is an air of refuting the general case but there's really not much of a stereotype there.   If you aren't basing your stereotypes around large, well-randomized samples then you are by definition making wrong assumptions and unless you are doing so knowingly then it would be the result of poor education in statistics.

With regard to the OP's argument that "if you look at things rationally 90% of stereotypes hang around because they are true".  Given that I doubt anyone knows the total number of stereotypes it seems pretty likely that he/she is part of the "poorly educated in statistics" group.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
July 31, 2011, 03:22:02 AM
Miley Cyrus Bitcoin personality card.

If I use a Miley Cyrus Bitcoin Card to buy some smack on Silk Road... uh, I can't think of a good ending for the joke. Somebody pick up the ball and run with it, ok?
No reason to use Silk Road, it will all go to one place.
Everyone knows that. xD

I remember listening to, and making love during, this song in the 80's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXZPaIl6us&feature=related I sure do miss her. That's what I think of every time I see Silk Road in print.
hero member
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July 31, 2011, 03:11:50 AM
Miley Cyrus Bitcoin personality card.

If I use a Miley Cyrus Bitcoin Card to buy some smack on Silk Road... uh, I can't think of a good ending for the joke. Somebody pick up the ball and run with it, ok?
No reason to use Silk Road, it will all go to one place.
Everyone knows that. xD
member
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July 31, 2011, 03:00:45 AM
Miley Cyrus Bitcoin personality card.

If I use a Miley Cyrus Bitcoin Card to buy some smack on Silk Road... uh, I can't think of a good ending for the joke. Somebody pick up the ball and run with it, ok?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
July 31, 2011, 02:47:21 AM
Forgive me, for I'm still farting.

What else do women like to do? Slot machines. I'm taking about a physical slot machine built by WMS Gaming or Bally Technologies and placed on casino floors with a Bitcoin theme. Here's the great part for the manufacture(s): No license fees to pay out.

Bitcoin has all the elements to make this a success:

* Miners & Mining Pools (imagine the animation)
* Block Payouts (50 credits--relatively common with a unique sound when hit)
* Bonus Round (describe what you feel a bonus round should consist of in your follow up posts)
* MegaBitcoin (linked machines between all the participating casinos to win 1M BTC)
* A giant rotating bitcoin hung over the bank of machines
* The machines would have a unique sound not heard before in a casino (as a lure)
* The chairs (stools) would all have the Bitcoin logo on them
* The machines accept $ or BTC, but if you use BTC, you'll receive X% extra credits
* Cash outs can be in $ or directly back into your Bitcoin wallet
* Even though they don't make real coin machines any more, one can still win a novelty 99% silver Bitcoin coin that has the casino name embossed on the back. Now people would be collecting them to have the whole set.

Feel free to expand this idea.

Bitcoin: Spin to Win

legendary
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July 31, 2011, 01:55:14 AM
There will be a day when there is no more mining for bitcoins.
So, there will be no need to teach girls the femininity side of it.

Because once all 21e6 BTC are mined, we'll all stop promoting and using BTC?  Huh
No no, once all BTC are mined there won't be any reason to teach girls how to setup miners or worry about them killing your miner.
We would just need to show them how to get a Bitcoin Card (similar to a Debit Card) and they will know what to do from there. Grin

Interesting! Giving Bitcoin cards as gifts to women.

Bitcoin: For Women Who have Everything--But Want More

Sorry for quoting myself, but after proofreading I had another brain fart upon reading my trademark random Bitcoin slogan tag.

What if rich and famous women started using Bitcoin to make discreet (or not so discreet) purchases? Then the common Janes would want to emulate them by getting their own card. (s**t, I'm farting faster than I can type--hang with me, for I'm taking the idea to the nth degree).

What if the average Jane discovered that Oprah (can't think of her last name, but hopefully you've heard of her) is using Bitcoin? What if there was a limited edition Oprah Bitcoin physical card? What if Oprah invested in Bitcoin prior to announcing that she uses it, therefore increasing her net worth? What if a handful of other famous personalities did the same (Lady Ga Ga; Britney Spears; Helena Bonham Carter; Casey Johnson)? Speaking of Helena, what if girls/women who are into Goth (or whatever it's called, but you know what I mean) started using Bitcoin? Let's not forget the high school chicks (I, for one, will never forget). Imagine them having a Miley Cyrus Bitcoin personality card. Hell, these cards don't even have to be loaded--at first. They'll sell like hot cakes... HOT CAKES!!! What if... (now I'm being stupid).

Hopefully, this post helps keep the creative juices flowing.

Bitcoin: They Have It--You Want It



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