Topic: How do we get the women on board? - page 5. (Read 38449 times)
I suggest to build bitcoin market so there is something to be able to spend new bitcoin at this time. There are several places to be able to spend bitcoi but the market is still not advanced. When the market is not advanced then you will get more people participating both men and women.
With the passage of time womens are getting into every field of life and working with mens side by side with joining shoulders with them and with time more and more womens will take interest in it and also earn profit on their investments.All of ous must have to eppricate them and also make them aware them and educated them about this.
The survey of women in this forum shows much less than I thought but perhaps they just want to remain anonymous or not vote. It has been several years and women in the crypto currency are probably 30%.
Girls hate money.
That's why they spend it so fast.
am I right?!
i am a woman, and i think it is easy. Most of the people nowadays are practical that they easily join groups where they can earn, spend and invest. That's why they spend it so fast.
am I right?!
Did anyone suggest guysgonebitcoin yet? I'm sure the ladies would love to pay to see the users on this forum in the buff.
So, I think we have totally different expectations what the average forum user looks like.
It might work though. Total anonymity, watching your favorite guys undress "only for you"..
Women feel the temptation of erotica just like the male audience, only social pressure is higher to admit to it (like buying erotic content with credit cards or paypal accounts could result in someone finding out about it).
This project however faces higher barriers like small audience with bitcoins ("Females, where art thou!?"). Guys to undress (anonymously) however should be around in sufficient numbers, given the vast crowd of bitcoin geeks. Once this starts to pick up steam, it could grow..
Femal audience centered erotica products is such an underdeveloped market on the net anyways. Whats the major obstacle for it to take off?
I really wouldn't pay to see a guy undress. In fact, I'm not going to pay anyone, male or female, to do any kind of erotic tap dance for me.
Men like to talk to women. They like to view women. Men typically are very auditory and visual. Women, on the other hand, would rather buy something sexy to wear, a toy, or read something erotic. That is why the visual and auditory markets for men are so big and the erotica and toy market are big for women. Sometimes they do overlap, but in general the two are very diverse from one another.
One guy ran a phone sex company with bitcoin years ago but then he closed up business. I think it bit him in the ass or the financial laws in Canada did. But it was doing pretty well since he could either use bitcoin or credit card. Women would find it easier to buy toys and clothes. Me personally? I spend mine on web hosting, domain names, and technology because I have no interest in doing something I can do in real time with someone I love or over the phone with someone paying me money to talk to him.
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How do we get the women on board?
Maybe we should get out from behind the computer and talk to a few...
I haven't said two words to my wife since I heard about bitcoin a couple months ago... 
seriously? you're a tough man
I think its not the only issue. First of all would be nice if we could understand how to start using that bitcoin. Because everybody talk of how cool is btc, but nobody says how we can start with it.
You are right its not that shiny as we like, but if we cant understand how to use it, doesn't matter how shiny you can make it
You are right its not that shiny as we like, but if we cant understand how to use it, doesn't matter how shiny you can make it
Shinies:
Lets face it. Bitcoin, in its current state, is not shiny. To make a metaphor, it looks like a very advanced piece of technology with wires going everywhere. Contrast this with the "Apple look".
100 private keys is probably NOT the way to go. It is complicated, and ugly (it could be an option but not standard(
Proposal: One private key should be standard. It should not be in hex, bas64, or anything else ugly. One thing that could work would be a sort of dictionary encoding, where every 20 bits or whatever is mapped to a word. The word in the dictionary would have to be carefully selected to be positive, or at least neutral. If this is chosen, there should be a "generate new address", so that people could click until they found one they were satisfied with.
The websites used with bitcoins are not pretty either (exchanges+this site). Contrast for instance with this:
http://www.westernunion.se/web-inf/images/yes/heroAreaCanIAlone013009.swf (western union)
this is what the sites should have to attract women, I believe.
Proposal: Find a professional designer that takes a look at the bitcoin client. Preferably one who knows nothing at all about the technology behind. Hide the details of implementation, remember how Object Orientation works
Fast transfers:
Bitcoins are a lot faster than banktransfers, but they can absolutely not compete with visa/mastercard/paypal in terms of speed. This IS a serious problem.
I think the advice given to businesses should be that they should accept transfers directly, or after one confirmation. If there is a reversal accept that as a fact of life. For sites with few but large sales, this may not be the way to go, but for transactions under 10 bitcoin this should def. be the standard. An alternative would be to pay instantly via for instance MtGox, but that would centralize the system, which I believe we don't want.
Ideology:
Cypher punk is cool, but does not have mainstream appeal, especially among women. We should tone that aspect down, no one cares about it. Thought should be given to whether a more appealing ideology could be retrofitted so to speak.
Suggestion: "Your local business is struggling to survive under the death grip of credit card fees. (Pic of small local store. Beautiful female clerk, with lots of styling looks sad, hopeless). But there is a cheaper alternative. Use bitcoin, support your local stores. (Clerk smiling)."
This might be construed as too patriotic for some. Too balance it we should emphasize how easy it is to donate to overseas charities, and buy from overseas stores.
Favorite sites:
This is a hard one obviously. We should try to push existing sites to use bitcoins as much as possible (details about doing this are abundant in other threads of course).
We should also try to new stores accepting bit coins to speed up the process. One thing that has been forgotten though, is the focus on stores selling items for women.
Friends:
Site should have a like button. Encourage users to blog/tweet/comment whenever they use bitcoins for a transaction.
Lets face it. Bitcoin, in its current state, is not shiny. To make a metaphor, it looks like a very advanced piece of technology with wires going everywhere. Contrast this with the "Apple look".
100 private keys is probably NOT the way to go. It is complicated, and ugly (it could be an option but not standard(
Proposal: One private key should be standard. It should not be in hex, bas64, or anything else ugly. One thing that could work would be a sort of dictionary encoding, where every 20 bits or whatever is mapped to a word. The word in the dictionary would have to be carefully selected to be positive, or at least neutral. If this is chosen, there should be a "generate new address", so that people could click until they found one they were satisfied with.
The websites used with bitcoins are not pretty either (exchanges+this site). Contrast for instance with this:
http://www.westernunion.se/web-inf/images/yes/heroAreaCanIAlone013009.swf (western union)
this is what the sites should have to attract women, I believe.
Proposal: Find a professional designer that takes a look at the bitcoin client. Preferably one who knows nothing at all about the technology behind. Hide the details of implementation, remember how Object Orientation works
Fast transfers:
Bitcoins are a lot faster than banktransfers, but they can absolutely not compete with visa/mastercard/paypal in terms of speed. This IS a serious problem.
I think the advice given to businesses should be that they should accept transfers directly, or after one confirmation. If there is a reversal accept that as a fact of life. For sites with few but large sales, this may not be the way to go, but for transactions under 10 bitcoin this should def. be the standard. An alternative would be to pay instantly via for instance MtGox, but that would centralize the system, which I believe we don't want.
Ideology:
Cypher punk is cool, but does not have mainstream appeal, especially among women. We should tone that aspect down, no one cares about it. Thought should be given to whether a more appealing ideology could be retrofitted so to speak.
Suggestion: "Your local business is struggling to survive under the death grip of credit card fees. (Pic of small local store. Beautiful female clerk, with lots of styling looks sad, hopeless). But there is a cheaper alternative. Use bitcoin, support your local stores. (Clerk smiling)."
This might be construed as too patriotic for some. Too balance it we should emphasize how easy it is to donate to overseas charities, and buy from overseas stores.
Favorite sites:
This is a hard one obviously. We should try to push existing sites to use bitcoins as much as possible (details about doing this are abundant in other threads of course).
We should also try to new stores accepting bit coins to speed up the process. One thing that has been forgotten though, is the focus on stores selling items for women.
Friends:
Site should have a like button. Encourage users to blog/tweet/comment whenever they use bitcoins for a transaction.
How do we get the women on board? Duct tape and chloroform? Firemen calendars? Free chocolate with the accrual of every bitcoin?
A cutesy pink wallet for droid? It's called marketing - Either someone does it or those less capable of proper use of a computer (both genders included here) won't ever adopt.
How do we get the women on board? Duct tape and chloroform? Firemen calendars? Free chocolate with the accrual of every bitcoin?
Did anyone suggest guysgonebitcoin yet? I'm sure the ladies would love to pay to see the users on this forum in the buff.
So, I think we have totally different expectations what the average forum user looks like.
It might work though. Total anonymity, watching your favorite guys undress "only for you"..
Women feel the temptation of erotica just like the male audience, only social pressure is higher to admit to it (like buying erotic content with credit cards or paypal accounts could result in someone finding out about it).
This project however faces higher barriers like small audience with bitcoins ("Females, where art thou!?"). Guys to undress (anonymously) however should be around in sufficient numbers, given the vast crowd of bitcoin geeks. Once this starts to pick up steam, it could grow..
Femal audience centered erotica products is such an underdeveloped market on the net anyways. Whats the major obstacle for it to take off?
Did anyone suggest guysgonebitcoin yet? I'm sure the ladies would love to pay to see the users on this forum in the buff.
So, I think we have totally different expectations what the average forum user looks like.
Did anyone suggest guysgonebitcoin yet? I'm sure the ladies would love to pay to see the users on this forum in the buff.
I'd like to know if the average age of female economists is lower than that of males. I suspect, given that there has been a gradual improvement in opening up fields of study to women over the decades, that this is so.
It might then be relevant to see if younger economists have different opinions to older ones - and whether this study took that into account.
It might then be relevant to see if younger economists have different opinions to older ones - and whether this study took that into account.
That was exactly my thought as well... if they haven't taken an age bias into account - the results could simply mean "younger economists are more liberal"
Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:
Any more information about this study?
I'd like to know if the average age of female economists is lower than that of males. I suspect, given that there has been a gradual improvement in opening up fields of study to women over the decades, that this is so.
It might then be relevant to see if younger economists have different opinions to older ones - and whether this study took that into account.
Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:
Any more information about this study?
Source:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/09/29/male-female-economists-differ/1583053/
I think the lack of women is only due to the predominance of early technology IT adopters which are generally heavily skewed towards being male. As bitcoin spreads in popularity women will naturally join.
Bitcoins for shoes, 
Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:
Any more information about this study?
When look at the outcome, I fear that's the kind of study where the result is already fixed and the questions are asked in the way to archive that goal.
Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:
Any more information about this study?
Oh, oh! I got one
http://www.kleiderkreisel.de/
Every community we could convince to use bitcoin will bring in lots of women, especially if it is one that has a large female user base like "kleiderkreisel.de" (yeah sorry, its a German example, but Im sure there is something like that in every country).
kleiderkreisel is a community where users (mainly women) can present and sell their very own textile creations or second hand articles.
It is pretty well known and popular among my peers (co eds) and I believe bitcoin would work well with it (I think they have an in-house web of trust system) because all advantages of bitcoin as a payment system apply.
http://www.kleiderkreisel.de/
Every community we could convince to use bitcoin will bring in lots of women, especially if it is one that has a large female user base like "kleiderkreisel.de" (yeah sorry, its a German example, but Im sure there is something like that in every country).
kleiderkreisel is a community where users (mainly women) can present and sell their very own textile creations or second hand articles.
It is pretty well known and popular among my peers (co eds) and I believe bitcoin would work well with it (I think they have an in-house web of trust system) because all advantages of bitcoin as a payment system apply.
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