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legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
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Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.

Shame of you...(lol)
yes it is impossible to lose and it is so...sorry.
If you take risk to earn more:
you can earn more or less but you can never lose...because it is impossible for a member to lose.
And my genious system is not a scam...
Have a nice day.

How funny you are calling your system not a scam, I'm having a bad day because of the people like you that don't want to stop your scamming tactics.

What's a shame about me? You must be the one that must be ashamed for you are scamming people boldly.

A shame because you persist missleading people about things you do not know about.
For me nothing is changing...my purpose is programming and managing my system.
So far I have never scammed people and you talk in a way people can believe I have.
I understand you fall in scammer tricks because you can not make the difference about honnest people and scammer,about serious econnomical system and ponzi shemes...
And in your "wrongness" (lol) you misslead people...and you do not feel ashamed?
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1024
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Ussually  made a High Offer likes Payout 150%. it is kind of HYIP. nah everybody knew that, but you know people keep Registered even they knew Potential Scam is High,just because we Need Money Fast! and love Easy way  Grin.

all trusted site or non-trusted site just likes 50/50 but sure Trusted site more valuables (but in next days who know if it can be SCAMMED it) my point is, never trust all your money into the site, either investment or else. better keep the money in saving bank.
yes usually they will offering 150%-300% for 1 month but unfortunately many people still want instant way how to making money and maybe that's why ponzi sites still alive untill now but for online gambling sites this is slightly difficult to recognize those sites scam or not because they will not offering huge profit and maybe the review for the particular sites will helping
The people are such make no sense in our mind. But too many the person does not care about money, They will find the immediate profit in a dream. But not in real life.
About the online gambling site, the main problem was in his provably fair.
hero member
Activity: 2884
Merit: 620
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Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.

Shame of you...(lol)
yes it is impossible to lose and it is so...sorry.
If you take risk to earn more:
you can earn more or less but you can never lose...because it is impossible for a member to lose.
And my genious system is not a scam...
Have a nice day.

How funny you are calling your system not a scam, I'm having a bad day because of the people like you that don't want to stop your scamming tactics.

What's a shame about me? You must be the one that must be ashamed for you are scamming people boldly.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1000
Ussually  made a High Offer likes Payout 150%. it is kind of HYIP. nah everybody knew that, but you know people keep Registered even they knew Potential Scam is High,just because we Need Money Fast! and love Easy way  Grin.

all trusted site or non-trusted site just likes 50/50 but sure Trusted site more valuables (but in next days who know if it can be SCAMMED it) my point is, never trust all your money into the site, either investment or else. better keep the money in saving bank.
yes usually they will offering 150%-300% for 1 month but unfortunately many people still want instant way how to making money and maybe that's why ponzi sites still alive untill now but for online gambling sites this is slightly difficult to recognize those sites scam or not because they will not offering huge profit and maybe the review for the particular sites will helping
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.

Shame of you...(lol)
yes it is impossible to lose and it is so...sorry.
If you take risk to earn more:
you can earn more or less but you can never lose...because it is impossible for a member to lose.
And my genious system is not a scam...
Have a nice day.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
If you are looking for a MM for a deal here in the forum we have some high trust users that are willing to offer this service at a low cost.
You can either call minerjones or OgNasty.
If you are dealing outside of bitcointalk then you better read more info and suggestions over the internet regarding the site before sending them your money.
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
It is very easy, when a site promising large payments with an easy difficulty level that it is definitely a scam. an example is a promising investment site RoI is greater than 1% per day it is definitely a scam, don't trust.
hero member
Activity: 2884
Merit: 620
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.
full member
Activity: 147
Merit: 102
"Sometimes u Need to Stop,But Doesn't Mean u Quit"
Once a cloudmining start scamming their users is that they closed their actual office (or maybe changed their office) or declare retirement.
They shut down their phone numbers (if any) and so on they shut down the hosting and with them the email support and there is no way to contact them ever.

That is just likes one of the trick to scammed people. we can say in 1000 user or more, who had been paid? maybe just 30% More? or maybe less?.. then the Founder/owner site found a new strategies to made in trusted, but the end of the show "sorry this site in maintenances for few days..blablabla "just an examples.

To be trusted is Worthy - being trusted for many years and sudenlly got betrayed!..is really Hurt Undecided . that is the lesson for us. This is a Wild World,,  had one crazy Quote from Unknown " even Your MOM..never Give All your Money to her!  Grin ".

legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1000
Ussually  made a High Offer likes Payout 150%. it is kind of HYIP. nah everybody knew that, but you know people keep Registered even they knew Potential Scam is High,just because we Need Money Fast! and love Easy way  Grin.

all trusted site or non-trusted site just likes 50/50 but sure Trusted site more valuables (but in next days who know if it can be SCAMMED it) my point is, never trust all your money into the site, either investment or else. better keep the money in saving bank.

Once a cloudmining start scamming their users is that they closed their actual office (or maybe changed their office) or declare retirement.
They shut down their phone numbers (if any) and so on they shut down the hosting and with them the email support and there is no way to contact them ever.
full member
Activity: 147
Merit: 102
"Sometimes u Need to Stop,But Doesn't Mean u Quit"
Ussually  made a High Offer likes Payout 150%. it is kind of HYIP. nah everybody knew that, but you know people keep Registered even they knew Potential Scam is High,just because we Need Money Fast! and love Easy way  Grin.

all trusted site or non-trusted site just likes 50/50 but sure Trusted site more valuables (but in next days who know if it can be SCAMMED it) my point is, never trust all your money into the site, either investment or else. better keep the money in saving bank.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1000
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?

The support starts making mistakes when replying the tickets or even sending just a random template that they carried out before.
After this you may see some delay, or sometimes the website gets down just to look as 'normal'.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1060
Mostly you can already see signs on the website, weird layout, no reviews, weird payment methods and also in the most cases no details about the company/addresses.

All of this can be faked.

Layout - People have been selling good looking website design for hyip sites nowadays. Well, people will make money out of anything, so why not create a template for a hyip site and then look for a scammer to buy one from you.

Reviews - It's easy to create an account somewhere and then give good feedback regarding your website.

Weird payment methods - Weird in what way? I've only seen hyip sites using paypal, bitcoins, perfectmoney, and all the other popular payment sites.

No details about the company/address - Why would you even put your address on the internet? Hyip sites usually just invent some address, just to make their site more legit. And maybe include some photos (even if they were just downloaded from google) just to add some details to attract investors.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.
hero member
Activity: 2884
Merit: 620
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Mostly you can already see signs on the website, weird layout, no reviews, weird payment methods and also in the most cases no details about the company/addresses.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
The list of  people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...

But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)

You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.

So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme.

So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics?

Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people.

If you analyse my U2 system...you can see that I'm right..."impossible to lose"
Try to lose and discover from yourself that it is impossible.
I suppose you are honest because I do not have  proof you are dishonest...
Please do not accuse me without proof...

Again I say, I won't waste my time checking your u2 system and everything about that winspiral investment scam.

And there is no such word that an investment is impossible to lose, even big companies have their ups and down, but with yours? Very funny.

I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.


""I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.""
you are right:
Those people have argument with"horrible design and poor English"
Nice proves...(lol)
The specificity of my system is that it is different with big companies because the profit is zero or more...never in negative.
Sorry if you can not understand this...
What i promise is hold:
Nowadays I say profit is minimum (in average) 20000 satoshi because it is so...it is not a promise.
Average daily profit since the start is 30000 satoshi or so...
Is paying people scam? (lol)

If I say it is impossible to lose it is because it is impossible to lose.






They are not arguing with horrible design and poor English, but they are flagging you red trust for promoting scam investment that is impossible to lose.

Don't tell me that your system is impossible to lose because is no such investment which is impossible to lose.

Even those trusted ones are losing some of their investments and how about yours? Your one of the kind who says that just to get some victims.

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)

hero member
Activity: 2884
Merit: 620
The list of  people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...

But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)

You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.

So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme.

So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics?

Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people.

If you analyse my U2 system...you can see that I'm right..."impossible to lose"
Try to lose and discover from yourself that it is impossible.
I suppose you are honest because I do not have  proof you are dishonest...
Please do not accuse me without proof...

Again I say, I won't waste my time checking your u2 system and everything about that winspiral investment scam.

And there is no such word that an investment is impossible to lose, even big companies have their ups and down, but with yours? Very funny.

I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.


""I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.""
you are right:
Those people have argument with"horrible design and poor English"
Nice proves...(lol)
The specificity of my system is that it is different with big companies because the profit is zero or more...never in negative.
Sorry if you can not understand this...
What i promise is hold:
Nowadays I say profit is minimum (in average) 20000 satoshi because it is so...it is not a promise.
Average daily profit since the start is 30000 satoshi or so...
Is paying people scam? (lol)

If I say it is impossible to lose it is because it is impossible to lose.






They are not arguing with horrible design and poor English, but they are flagging you red trust for promoting scam investment that is impossible to lose.

Don't tell me that your system is impossible to lose because is no such investment which is impossible to lose.

Even those trusted ones are losing some of their investments and how about yours? Your one of the kind who says that just to get some victims.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
Search on  the web about the site you are joining,ask those who are already on that site for feedbacks.if you perform this two im pretty sure you will not get scammed by any hyip ,ponzi site.
But unfortunately a HYIP or ponzi will not last for long time so that some people may not have a track of site you might be looking for. How your friend will be helping you when you are going to join a brand new HYIP site. So, analyzing by ourselves must be the only possible way to protect ourselves from many future scams.
In the past Hyip had a sequence, that were the first members will be able to roi, since they will promote the website to others, that will invest, soo in the medium short time the admin stop paying, lets say 2-5 months, since some last even more, but nowadays they stop paying 3 weeks or 10 days after they get a lot investment, soo there is no way to prevent this kind of scam. People still get the ilusion of fast money without have to do anything. To protect your coins just avoid those ponzis, invest at trading, sport gambling or any other thing.


Then my U2 system with over 13 months run time  should be trustable (lol)
Even you are longer run your HYIP site we will still not trusting you since you already have 8 negative trust as a proof that you are one of them do you think you can stay more long it is impossible there is no free in the internet everything needs to work hard in order to earn good amount.

Thanks,
So long you are talking about Hyips you are not talking about my U2 system where it is impossible to lose.
Honestly i do not understand about your site if it is actually a site or not?.. if you can notice the front page the description you are given is unprofessional and also the design is unprofessional ..
For me if you are starting a business online you should spend a lot of money for design because it is more attractive to people if your site looks professinals that is why they are not trusting you because of it.. honestly after i read them i do not understand what is whole about.. so i can say it is a cloud mining that asking to visit your site just to have a visitors or you are just getting shares from someone and run soon.. 

many people have perfectly understood the system and share daily over 20000 satoshi
it's not my buziness.
it's just my fun...my fun to iffer daily over 20000 satoshi at the shareholders of the U2 system.
I agree:The one who have taken the time to understand better...manage better and earn more.

legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1046
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
Search on  the web about the site you are joining,ask those who are already on that site for feedbacks.if you perform this two im pretty sure you will not get scammed by any hyip ,ponzi site.
But unfortunately a HYIP or ponzi will not last for long time so that some people may not have a track of site you might be looking for. How your friend will be helping you when you are going to join a brand new HYIP site. So, analyzing by ourselves must be the only possible way to protect ourselves from many future scams.
In the past Hyip had a sequence, that were the first members will be able to roi, since they will promote the website to others, that will invest, soo in the medium short time the admin stop paying, lets say 2-5 months, since some last even more, but nowadays they stop paying 3 weeks or 10 days after they get a lot investment, soo there is no way to prevent this kind of scam. People still get the ilusion of fast money without have to do anything. To protect your coins just avoid those ponzis, invest at trading, sport gambling or any other thing.


Then my U2 system with over 13 months run time  should be trustable (lol)
Even you are longer run your HYIP site we will still not trusting you since you already have 8 negative trust as a proof that you are one of them do you think you can stay more long it is impossible there is no free in the internet everything needs to work hard in order to earn good amount.

Thanks,
So long you are talking about Hyips you are not talking about my U2 system where it is impossible to lose.
Honestly i do not understand about your site if it is actually a site or not?.. if you can notice the front page the description you are given is unprofessional and also the design is unprofessional ..
For me if you are starting a business online you should spend a lot of money for design because it is more attractive to people if your site looks professinals that is why they are not trusting you because of it.. honestly after i read them i do not understand what is whole about.. so i can say it is a cloud mining that asking to visit your site just to have a visitors or you are just getting shares from someone and run soon.. 
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