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hero member
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Strength in Numbers
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
I know there have been a lot of scamming websites before but not all websites scam with this method.
You can have the funds and if you have huge enough funds you can keep some on the bank to pay people when needed and rest could be in fiat savings account getting bigger. Like insurance companies.

But that's not a way to know if the site tries to scam us and to be clarified there are a lot of ways to know that a site is scam.

My opinion is just one of the many of it and if there is no service in return of your deposited bitcoins but the interest and profit they are saying then don't trust it.

That's another tactic of scamming sites.


Please clarify on what you are sayin here since your thoughs are not cleared annd its no undestandable, but as for experience we can really determine on when the site whike try to scam us when they are giving some signs of withdrawal delaying,site turns down and says for mentainance and last big return back of investments, and that should be the red flag for all investor so they can flee before they will get scam by certain scam sites.
You should really be wary about this kind of event since its the indication of a certain investment or website would really tend to become scam thats why its considered as a go signal to withdraw all of your money that you did invest but its not always the case since most site will shut directly without any signs or notice.
not always that you can heard or seen the signal it is better to stop investing in some sitesor deal to someone not actually trusted..  you can not know the signal easily but staying away will be the good idea to just to prevent to experience to be scam..
Many scammers that you can found online and i think it is not a good idea if you invest if you are seen or attract from the offer they are giving..

@senyorito123 I'm saying that the tactics of scamming sites is like this, when you invested or deposited to their address.

But there is nothing in exchange or in return like some service or products and they are promising you some good interest rate.

Then that's sounds fishy already, why you would invest or deposit to them without getting something in return, just like pyramiding of people.
hero member
Activity: 3038
Merit: 634

Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)

I can see already on you the scam and just read your signature and it can show already that it is your tactic to scam people.

Where on Earth you can find this type of investment?
Code:
IMPOSSIBLE to lose...you can only earn

Really impossible to lose? Even whales are losing their investments either because there is no assurance that you'll get profit.

All types of investments does have their own flaws and failure and you promise this? Oh come on, boy.

It's not a promise...it's a fact.
I propose you to try...
if you lose you are right...
if you lose i'm wrong...

I have proved for over 1 year that I'm right...
Prove us that I'm wrong.

If I say it is impossible it means that it is impossible.
You can only lose a part of what you have earned from winspiral:
This means that you have a part you can not lose.
No high school needed to understand this...you need just time to understand the system.

Thanks for the "come on, boy"...I could perhaps be your father or grandfather (lol)



Better to call you boy rather than to be my father or grand father because that is going to be a shame for me as well.

And am I reading it right? Do you say that investing with your system that says impossible to lose is a fact? Do you even know what you are saying?

I won't even waste my time for trying out your scamming scheme and I don't want to add to the list of those people who you scammed.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1060
Make sure there are there real people behind it - do some investigation about the team; check out their facebook pages and other social media presence - Google is your best friend.

Of course there are real people behind it. Who designed, created, and thought of making a scam site? Of course a real person and not some machine or bot. It's really easy to create thousands of fake profiles and pretend as if you're that person. You can simply grab anyone's profile nowadays. Almost everyone on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram have their profiles in public. It's easy to pretend that you're that someone. So I don't think that looking for a "real" person behind a website would help at all. If it's a scam, then it's a scam regardless of who is behind that website.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001

There are certain flags that can be considered if you want to spot a scam site. Most of them will try to use a domain name similar to a popular brand.  The contact info is not available instead it will make you fill up a form.    If they are offering items and do shipping, you can check their shipping terms, if there is non, then better have caution.

You can also use the scamadviser.com website to determine about the rating of that website but still this one is not quite that reliable as they are accepting advertisements and also it can make the scamming sites legit by just simply making its rating up for the paid advertisement or service that scam site will pay them.

Well I think you can also try to use their contact support.  If there is no response or some automated voice, or no one answers the phone or cannot be reach, then more probably that site is a scam  this is just some pointer but it is not 100% guarantee. 
Actually scam sites are quit clever this day, they surely know how to put up a professional looking site, a perfect grammar sentences and sometimes they hire a personnel to answer the query just to make them look legit.  They may even show you documents of registration.  Better check them for possible fraud.
Scammers are already clever nowadays and you are right they will surely patch up all the possible holes that might some users do make an investigation on their legitimacy and when they convince such person then its not really hard for them to scam people.If you are a sensible person regarding on your money you will always find or seek holes regarding on a certain investment.

Yeah surely they are clever and they are even more knowledgeable than their investors because they know how the flow of scamming goes on. They are totally professionals with it. And for their documents it can be faked easily but you must be a keen observer upon checking their documents especially if they are based offshore.
the only thing that i can say it is inot easy to know if they are legit or not.. if they are newbie just always keep in mind to use escrow so that you are far in scam users.. and for out side deals if you are going to deal to some one or a site you ahve no guarantee to get your money back unless if you are using paypal because it has charge back or reverse payment once they are scammers.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1030
I'm looking for free spin.
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
I know there have been a lot of scamming websites before but not all websites scam with this method.
You can have the funds and if you have huge enough funds you can keep some on the bank to pay people when needed and rest could be in fiat savings account getting bigger. Like insurance companies.

But that's not a way to know if the site tries to scam us and to be clarified there are a lot of ways to know that a site is scam.

My opinion is just one of the many of it and if there is no service in return of your deposited bitcoins but the interest and profit they are saying then don't trust it.

That's another tactic of scamming sites.


Please clarify on what you are sayin here since your thoughs are not cleared annd its no undestandable, but as for experience we can really determine on when the site whike try to scam us when they are giving some signs of withdrawal delaying,site turns down and says for mentainance and last big return back of investments, and that should be the red flag for all investor so they can flee before they will get scam by certain scam sites.
You should really be wary about this kind of event since its the indication of a certain investment or website would really tend to become scam thats why its considered as a go signal to withdraw all of your money that you did invest but its not always the case since most site will shut directly without any signs or notice.
not always that you can heard or seen the signal it is better to stop investing in some sitesor deal to someone not actually trusted..  you can not know the signal easily but staying away will be the good idea to just to prevent to experience to be scam..
Many scammers that you can found online and i think it is not a good idea if you invest if you are seen or attract from the offer they are giving..
sr. member
Activity: 471
Merit: 500
Make sure there are there real people behind it - do some investigation about the team; check out their facebook pages and other social media presence - Google is your best friend.
hero member
Activity: 3010
Merit: 794
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
I know there have been a lot of scamming websites before but not all websites scam with this method.
You can have the funds and if you have huge enough funds you can keep some on the bank to pay people when needed and rest could be in fiat savings account getting bigger. Like insurance companies.

But that's not a way to know if the site tries to scam us and to be clarified there are a lot of ways to know that a site is scam.

My opinion is just one of the many of it and if there is no service in return of your deposited bitcoins but the interest and profit they are saying then don't trust it.

That's another tactic of scamming sites.


Please clarify on what you are sayin here since your thoughs are not cleared annd its no undestandable, but as for experience we can really determine on when the site whike try to scam us when they are giving some signs of withdrawal delaying,site turns down and says for mentainance and last big return back of investments, and that should be the red flag for all investor so they can flee before they will get scam by certain scam sites.
You should really be wary about this kind of event since its the indication of a certain investment or website would really tend to become scam thats why its considered as a go signal to withdraw all of your money that you did invest but its not always the case since most site will shut directly without any signs or notice.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
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Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)

I can see already on you the scam and just read your signature and it can show already that it is your tactic to scam people.

Where on Earth you can find this type of investment?
Code:
IMPOSSIBLE to lose...you can only earn

Really impossible to lose? Even whales are losing their investments either because there is no assurance that you'll get profit.

All types of investments does have their own flaws and failure and you promise this? Oh come on, boy.

It's not a promise...it's a fact.
I propose you to try...
if you lose you are right...
if you lose i'm wrong...

I have proved for over 1 year that I'm right...
Prove us that I'm wrong.

If I say it is impossible it means that it is impossible.
You can only lose a part of what you have earned from winspiral:
This means that you have a part you can not lose.
No high school needed to understand this...you need just time to understand the system.

Thanks for the "come on, boy"...I could perhaps be your father or grandfather (lol)

hero member
Activity: 1764
Merit: 505
#SWGT PRE-SALE IS LIVE
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
I know there have been a lot of scamming websites before but not all websites scam with this method.
You can have the funds and if you have huge enough funds you can keep some on the bank to pay people when needed and rest could be in fiat savings account getting bigger. Like insurance companies.

But that's not a way to know if the site tries to scam us and to be clarified there are a lot of ways to know that a site is scam.

My opinion is just one of the many of it and if there is no service in return of your deposited bitcoins but the interest and profit they are saying then don't trust it.

That's another tactic of scamming sites.


Please clarify on what you are sayin here since your thoughs are not cleared annd its no undestandable, but as for experience we can really determine on when the site whike try to scam us when they are giving some signs of withdrawal delaying,site turns down and says for mentainance and last big return back of investments, and that should be the red flag for all investor so they can flee before they will get scam by certain scam sites.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 501
Strength in Numbers
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
I know there have been a lot of scamming websites before but not all websites scam with this method.
You can have the funds and if you have huge enough funds you can keep some on the bank to pay people when needed and rest could be in fiat savings account getting bigger. Like insurance companies.

But that's not a way to know if the site tries to scam us and to be clarified there are a lot of ways to know that a site is scam.

My opinion is just one of the many of it and if there is no service in return of your deposited bitcoins but the interest and profit they are saying then don't trust it.

That's another tactic of scamming sites.
hero member
Activity: 3038
Merit: 634

Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)

I can see already on you the scam and just read your signature and it can show already that it is your tactic to scam people.

Where on Earth you can find this type of investment?
Code:
IMPOSSIBLE to lose...you can only earn

Really impossible to lose? Even whales are losing their investments either because there is no assurance that you'll get profit.

All types of investments does have their own flaws and failure and you promise this? Oh come on, boy.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1054
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
I know there have been a lot of scamming websites before but not all websites scam with this method.
You can have the funds and if you have huge enough funds you can keep some on the bank to pay people when needed and rest could be in fiat savings account getting bigger. Like insurance companies.
hero member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 609
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
Well its too obvious to those sites that are trying to scam you, if the offer is too good to be true, that you can earn with a huge amount in just a few couple of time. And before risking any money from your wallet try to search in google ('the site's name' review) and read all the reviews there with different people so you can know if this sites are legit.
Checking feedbacks to a particular investments isnt always works and some of those feedbacks are from fake people which you will really need to investigate more and as you said checking sites status/name and you should really seek for the legit reviews and not to those fake ones because if you just let those positive feedbacks of fake people then you will surely got hooked into it.
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hero member
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I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
Well its too obvious to those sites that are trying to scam you, if the offer is too good to be true, that you can earn with a huge amount in just a few couple of time. And before risking any money from your wallet try to search in google ('the site's name' review) and read all the reviews there with different people so you can know if this sites are legit.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 501
Strength in Numbers
they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.

Surely they are scams and also add that if their promising you hourly rate or whatsoever interest they will give you back after depositing.

That's their very script, that 'hourly rate interest' when you have read that word, then ignore those sites and don't waste your time to invest with them.

And even don't get curious with them anymore just stay away from them.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
You can never know in advance.
Even if you are 500% sure that the site will collapse soon or late...you can not know if you are the one who will be scammed.

You will parhaps be the "paid" to attract other people.

It is why many sure scam sites have succes because sometimes they do not scam at the start...

I have more experience that all my red trusters...(lol)
So far I have always found people who have trust me and have send me cash...
It is so easy to scam people and red trust is useless because when red trusters come...it is already to late.
And red trusters are so often wrong that they have lost credibility.

Look me red trusters...they are even not able to admit that they were wrong...






Those people who put you red trust are even more reliable to believe than your statement that your system is not a scam.

Just read what you are saying if you know what you want to promote here in forum and that is not a scam then they will remove it to you.

And really it is easy to scam people? Because you have a lot of experience with it already?

My red trust points is absolutly not a problem for me...
it's a problem for my members and for potential future members.
Why?
Because the red trust points my site make (perhaps) less profit.
If less profit then less profit for my members (not for me)
If less members...means that less  members profit from my site.

Yes...I have enough experience and I could easily scam people...
But if so,I would not keep my same nickname for over 20 years...(lol)

I offer at least daily 20000 satoshi...people are free to share them...
if they prefer claim on classic faucets less then 400 satoshi it is their choice...i can not force people to earn satoshi by winspiral even if it is better than with most of faucets...
My system is a kind of poker freeroll ...daily minimum 20000 satoshi are offered...play who want playing.

Perhaps all people will admit that winspiral was not a scammer in 20 years...
but i'm now an old boy (lol) and i do not know if in 20 years i will till live...(it's even hard to know about tomorrow...)




It is not the red trust faults for your site for having lesser profit, it is your fault because they are just helping those people who can be your potential victims to avoid your investment scam.

So you are admitting that you are a scammer and you have experience for it and that makes you a scam people easily but that is not going to be an easy thing for you now because you have red trust.

And of course if you are having lesser profit then you are the only one that will benefit to it, don't hide for saying that your members will have less profit.

Of course your scheme is to get more victims and once they invested that's the profit you will pay for those earlier investors.

I just can say that it is too good to be true.

You can say what you want...this does not mean you are right...you forget that one can not invest with my system how can I  pay investors from investors if it is not possible to invest?
you see you are wrong like all my red trusters.


Don't make those people who wants to get some decent profit encouraged and convinced with all of your explanation about your scam investment.

How can you pay your investors? That's why you are keep on operating your investment scheme and asking for people to invest.

Because your system doesn't have strong way where it is really getting its profit  but no other than from your investors.

And don't say that I'm wrong like those DT who did flagged you, is it wrong to warn people about your scamming tactics?



Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)



The scam is the easiest way to be done by all, even for those who do not have skills in fraud. But the scam requires some supporters to be able to launch all of the plan or the primary goal that is deceiving many people to get money. And the easiest way to do is with the Ponzi system or hyip or cloud mining. All of this has been done by everyone and most systems do indeed use between those systems. So I think it all just depends how they repackaged or hide the system so that it is not suspected

@ Yutikas_11920

And what has your saying to see with this post and my system?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
You can never know in advance.
Even if you are 500% sure that the site will collapse soon or late...you can not know if you are the one who will be scammed.

You will parhaps be the "paid" to attract other people.

It is why many sure scam sites have succes because sometimes they do not scam at the start...

I have more experience that all my red trusters...(lol)
So far I have always found people who have trust me and have send me cash...
It is so easy to scam people and red trust is useless because when red trusters come...it is already to late.
And red trusters are so often wrong that they have lost credibility.

Look me red trusters...they are even not able to admit that they were wrong...






Those people who put you red trust are even more reliable to believe than your statement that your system is not a scam.

Just read what you are saying if you know what you want to promote here in forum and that is not a scam then they will remove it to you.

And really it is easy to scam people? Because you have a lot of experience with it already?

My red trust points is absolutly not a problem for me...
it's a problem for my members and for potential future members.
Why?
Because the red trust points my site make (perhaps) less profit.
If less profit then less profit for my members (not for me)
If less members...means that less  members profit from my site.

Yes...I have enough experience and I could easily scam people...
But if so,I would not keep my same nickname for over 20 years...(lol)

I offer at least daily 20000 satoshi...people are free to share them...
if they prefer claim on classic faucets less then 400 satoshi it is their choice...i can not force people to earn satoshi by winspiral even if it is better than with most of faucets...
My system is a kind of poker freeroll ...daily minimum 20000 satoshi are offered...play who want playing.

Perhaps all people will admit that winspiral was not a scammer in 20 years...
but i'm now an old boy (lol) and i do not know if in 20 years i will till live...(it's even hard to know about tomorrow...)




It is not the red trust faults for your site for having lesser profit, it is your fault because they are just helping those people who can be your potential victims to avoid your investment scam.

So you are admitting that you are a scammer and you have experience for it and that makes you a scam people easily but that is not going to be an easy thing for you now because you have red trust.

And of course if you are having lesser profit then you are the only one that will benefit to it, don't hide for saying that your members will have less profit.

Of course your scheme is to get more victims and once they invested that's the profit you will pay for those earlier investors.

I just can say that it is too good to be true.

You can say what you want...this does not mean you are right...you forget that one can not invest with my system how can I  pay investors from investors if it is not possible to invest?
you see you are wrong like all my red trusters.


Don't make those people who wants to get some decent profit encouraged and convinced with all of your explanation about your scam investment.

How can you pay your investors? That's why you are keep on operating your investment scheme and asking for people to invest.

Because your system doesn't have strong way where it is really getting its profit  but no other than from your investors.

And don't say that I'm wrong like those DT who did flagged you, is it wrong to warn people about your scamming tactics?



Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)



The scam is the easiest way to be done by all, even for those who do not have skills in fraud. But the scam requires some supporters to be able to launch all of the plan or the primary goal that is deceiving many people to get money. And the easiest way to do is with the Ponzi system or hyip or cloud mining. All of this has been done by everyone and most systems do indeed use between those systems. So I think it all just depends how they repackaged or hide the system so that it is not suspected
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
You can never know in advance.
Even if you are 500% sure that the site will collapse soon or late...you can not know if you are the one who will be scammed.

You will parhaps be the "paid" to attract other people.

It is why many sure scam sites have succes because sometimes they do not scam at the start...

I have more experience that all my red trusters...(lol)
So far I have always found people who have trust me and have send me cash...
It is so easy to scam people and red trust is useless because when red trusters come...it is already to late.
And red trusters are so often wrong that they have lost credibility.

Look me red trusters...they are even not able to admit that they were wrong...






Those people who put you red trust are even more reliable to believe than your statement that your system is not a scam.

Just read what you are saying if you know what you want to promote here in forum and that is not a scam then they will remove it to you.

And really it is easy to scam people? Because you have a lot of experience with it already?

My red trust points is absolutly not a problem for me...
it's a problem for my members and for potential future members.
Why?
Because the red trust points my site make (perhaps) less profit.
If less profit then less profit for my members (not for me)
If less members...means that less  members profit from my site.

Yes...I have enough experience and I could easily scam people...
But if so,I would not keep my same nickname for over 20 years...(lol)

I offer at least daily 20000 satoshi...people are free to share them...
if they prefer claim on classic faucets less then 400 satoshi it is their choice...i can not force people to earn satoshi by winspiral even if it is better than with most of faucets...
My system is a kind of poker freeroll ...daily minimum 20000 satoshi are offered...play who want playing.

Perhaps all people will admit that winspiral was not a scammer in 20 years...
but i'm now an old boy (lol) and i do not know if in 20 years i will till live...(it's even hard to know about tomorrow...)




It is not the red trust faults for your site for having lesser profit, it is your fault because they are just helping those people who can be your potential victims to avoid your investment scam.

So you are admitting that you are a scammer and you have experience for it and that makes you a scam people easily but that is not going to be an easy thing for you now because you have red trust.

And of course if you are having lesser profit then you are the only one that will benefit to it, don't hide for saying that your members will have less profit.

Of course your scheme is to get more victims and once they invested that's the profit you will pay for those earlier investors.

I just can say that it is too good to be true.

You can say what you want...this does not mean you are right...you forget that one can not invest with my system how can I  pay investors from investors if it is not possible to invest?
you see you are wrong like all my red trusters.


Don't make those people who wants to get some decent profit encouraged and convinced with all of your explanation about your scam investment.

How can you pay your investors? That's why you are keep on operating your investment scheme and asking for people to invest.

Because your system doesn't have strong way where it is really getting its profit  but no other than from your investors.

And don't say that I'm wrong like those DT who did flagged you, is it wrong to warn people about your scamming tactics?



Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)

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they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
Yes businesses with the improper source of income generation, must be doing ponzi business model and they will most probably will scam in very near future. Background checking is more important before and after investing into a site. We need to keep on monitoring their business activities so that we can predict they will scam or not.
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You can never know in advance.
Even if you are 500% sure that the site will collapse soon or late...you can not know if you are the one who will be scammed.

You will parhaps be the "paid" to attract other people.

It is why many sure scam sites have succes because sometimes they do not scam at the start...

I have more experience that all my red trusters...(lol)
So far I have always found people who have trust me and have send me cash...
It is so easy to scam people and red trust is useless because when red trusters come...it is already to late.
And red trusters are so often wrong that they have lost credibility.

Look me red trusters...they are even not able to admit that they were wrong...






Those people who put you red trust are even more reliable to believe than your statement that your system is not a scam.

Just read what you are saying if you know what you want to promote here in forum and that is not a scam then they will remove it to you.

And really it is easy to scam people? Because you have a lot of experience with it already?

My red trust points is absolutly not a problem for me...
it's a problem for my members and for potential future members.
Why?
Because the red trust points my site make (perhaps) less profit.
If less profit then less profit for my members (not for me)
If less members...means that less  members profit from my site.

Yes...I have enough experience and I could easily scam people...
But if so,I would not keep my same nickname for over 20 years...(lol)

I offer at least daily 20000 satoshi...people are free to share them...
if they prefer claim on classic faucets less then 400 satoshi it is their choice...i can not force people to earn satoshi by winspiral even if it is better than with most of faucets...
My system is a kind of poker freeroll ...daily minimum 20000 satoshi are offered...play who want playing.

Perhaps all people will admit that winspiral was not a scammer in 20 years...
but i'm now an old boy (lol) and i do not know if in 20 years i will till live...(it's even hard to know about tomorrow...)




It is not the red trust faults for your site for having lesser profit, it is your fault because they are just helping those people who can be your potential victims to avoid your investment scam.

So you are admitting that you are a scammer and you have experience for it and that makes you a scam people easily but that is not going to be an easy thing for you now because you have red trust.

And of course if you are having lesser profit then you are the only one that will benefit to it, don't hide for saying that your members will have less profit.

Of course your scheme is to get more victims and once they invested that's the profit you will pay for those earlier investors.

I just can say that it is too good to be true.

You can say what you want...this does not mean you are right...you forget that one can not invest with my system how can I  pay investors from investors if it is not possible to invest?
you see you are wrong like all my red trusters.


Don't make those people who wants to get some decent profit encouraged and convinced with all of your explanation about your scam investment.

How can you pay your investors? That's why you are keep on operating your investment scheme and asking for people to invest.

Because your system doesn't have strong way where it is really getting its profit  but no other than from your investors.

And don't say that I'm wrong like those DT who did flagged you, is it wrong to warn people about your scamming tactics?

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