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March 20, 2022, 07:32:14 AM
#50
Surely Ukraine will last longer because in that country there are many heroes who are ready to sacrifice their lives to fight Russian aggression. And also international support will continue to flow to Ukraine and this is what gives them encouragement!
Really Left with help of international support Russian would have clear everyone in Ukraine, forget their heroes because is not about hero's, the thing that matters is war equipment's like nuclear weapons, like nuclear bomb that can destroy two million people at times, Russian know very well that if the destroy Ukraine more than the way they did u.s can interval and china will also come in to support Russian why u.s is supporting Ukraine
Is quite obvious that China will back Russia, If U.S.A decides to send troops to support Ukraine. But, don't you think that might lead to WW3? Although, Ukraine have been more strong that I expected, and they can't be destroyed entirely. Just that Russia don't want the US anywhere closer to them. They sees the NATO as a dangerous Organization. And will do anything within their capacity to ensure Ukraine doesn't join NATO.
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March 20, 2022, 07:08:12 AM
#49
Surely Ukraine will last longer because in that country there are many heroes who are ready to sacrifice their lives to fight Russian aggression. And also international support will continue to flow to Ukraine and this is what gives them encouragement!
Really Left with help of international support Russian would have clear everyone in Ukraine, forget their heroes because is not about hero's, the thing that matters is war equipment's like nuclear weapons, like nuclear bomb that can destroy two million people at times, Russian know very well that if the destroy Ukraine more than the way they did u.s can interval and china will also come in to support Russian why u.s is supporting Ukraine
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March 19, 2022, 03:39:22 PM
#48
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You mean taxes are illegal?
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March 19, 2022, 03:23:21 PM
#47
Ukraine country will survive this war soon because they are fully ready to make peace with Russia despite what Russian soldiers has done to their resources.
Peace? Honestly i don't want anything but just peace, so things can go back to normal. But are there actually plans in motion to make peace? I have not seen or heard much about that, from what i can gather, the war is still going on in its full force, to make peace will mean one side will have to surrender, do you think Ukraine are going to do that? I honestly do not know what is going to happen, but i just want a stop to all of this wreckage.
Ukraine president will do everything possible to print more money that will allow the citizens to improve their businesses in the country.
Printing more money eh? Well that could be the only option, but i am pretty sure we all know what the negative effect of that is, as inflation/hyperinflation is being felt almost worldwide right now after there was so much money-printing to fight the covid pandemic. Well Ukraine would not be thinking of that at all right now, they will just want all of this to end, so the rebuilding process can begin, in whichever way possible.

Russia offered it a long time ago with this conditions:


Donetsk, and Luhansk people already decided many times over what they want and they decide and not some corrupt drug addict far far away.

 Ukraine says no longer insisting on NATO membership
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nod-russia-ukraine-says-no-165955908.html
Exactly what is so bad about a neutral country like switzerland, austria or sweden
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March 19, 2022, 02:04:08 PM
#46
Ukraine country will survive this war soon because they are fully ready to make peace with Russia despite what Russian soldiers has done to their resources.
Peace? Honestly i don't want anything but just peace, so things can go back to normal. But are there actually plans in motion to make peace? I have not seen or heard much about that, from what i can gather, the war is still going on in its full force, to make peace will mean one side will have to surrender, do you think Ukraine are going to do that? I honestly do not know what is going to happen, but i just want a stop to all of this wreckage.
Ukraine president will do everything possible to print more money that will allow the citizens to improve their businesses in the country.
Printing more money eh? Well that could be the only option, but i am pretty sure we all know what the negative effect of that is, as inflation/hyperinflation is being felt almost worldwide right now after there was so much money-printing to fight the covid pandemic. Well Ukraine would not be thinking of that at all right now, they will just want all of this to end, so the rebuilding process can begin, in whichever way possible.
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March 19, 2022, 11:39:17 AM
#45
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When I saw the news about British mercenaries dying and some going back to the borders after just a few hours of going inside Ukraine's borders, I could understand the terror he witness.

An American who fought in Ukraine warns others “Do not go, it’s a trap”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1503737123261800452

Being backstabbed and slaughtered by Ukrainians, lucky to get out alive, next problem at home, fighting for a foreign country.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504140455302217734

The plan to get other countries involved by having massive dead foreigners, has failed. Some idiots died as canon fodder.

I can`t believe you are still not banned. You are constantly spreading some slag. Does your rotten state even pay you for that? I'm just waiting for the moment when everyone will get annoyed enough of these meaningless, uncontributing posts, and maybe ignoring will finally be a reason for you to shut up.

You always have the option to click the ignore button if you don't like real news or freedom.
And yes I do have opinions, if they are not to your liking i could not care.
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March 19, 2022, 11:00:10 AM
#44
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When I saw the news about British mercenaries dying and some going back to the borders after just a few hours of going inside Ukraine's borders, I could understand the terror he witness.

An American who fought in Ukraine warns others “Do not go, it’s a trap”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1503737123261800452

Being backstabbed and slaughtered by Ukrainians, lucky to get out alive, next problem at home, fighting for a foreign country.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504140455302217734

The plan to get other countries involved by having massive dead foreigners, has failed. Some idiots died as canon fodder.

I can`t believe you are still not banned. You are constantly spreading some slag. Does your rotten state even pay you for that? I'm just waiting for the moment when everyone will get annoyed enough of these meaningless, uncontributing posts, and maybe ignoring will finally be a reason for you to shut up.
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March 19, 2022, 03:27:01 AM
#43
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When I saw the news about British mercenaries dying and some going back to the borders after just a few hours of going inside Ukraine's borders, I could understand the terror he witness.

An American who fought in Ukraine warns others “Do not go, it’s a trap”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1503737123261800452

Being backstabbed and slaughtered by Ukrainians, lucky to get out alive, next problem at home, fighting for a foreign country.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504140455302217734

The plan to get other countries involved by having massive dead foreigners, has failed. Some idiots died as canon fodder.
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March 18, 2022, 11:51:58 PM
#42
Ukraine will last forever. It's just the Zelensky's government that's falling.
He should have accepted the defeat. Would have prevented lot of destruction that happened in Ukraine. I know that it is there right to prevent their country but sometimes logical thinking is required.

Russia is a superpower, if they just have the intention of ruining all Ukraine structures, they''d already drop thier biggest bombs and shoot missiles to every hiding place but I think they don't have that intention. According to the news, the Russians are circling Ukraine to cut the supplies that will force them to surrender. It's an old strategy even in medieval times where the city is circled making the city hungry till they lost the courage to fight. If they have a lot of supplies I guess they can last longer.

When I saw the news about British mercenaries dying and some going back to the borders after just a few hours of going inside Ukraine's borders, I could understand the terror he witness.
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March 18, 2022, 11:34:42 PM
#41
Ukraine will last forever. It's just the Zelensky's government that's falling.
He should have accepted the defeat. Would have prevented lot of destruction that happened in Ukraine. I know that it is there right to prevent their country but sometimes logical thinking is required.
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March 18, 2022, 02:59:17 PM
#40
Ukraine country will survive this war soon because they are fully ready to make peace with Russia despite what Russian soldiers has done to their resources. Since other countries are ready to assist them with food items and other things that can help them to sustain through out the war.
Ukraine will definitely over come this war next year 2023 to enable them to grow their economy that is trying to collapse in this war period. Ukraine president will do everything possible to print more money that will allow the citizens to improve their businesses in the country.
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March 17, 2022, 07:00:48 AM
#39
Going down the tubes as is
https://youtu.be/h6XvLVAuhgo
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March 08, 2022, 05:01:10 PM
#38
I understand, though I do not agree, why neither America nor Europe is sending troops to help Ukraine. I can even understand why they do not cover the sky (Putin has already stated that he would regard any such attempt as entering the war). However, I can't understand why we won't be given planes and more air defense systems. Nor can I understand why the UN cannot send peacekeepers to separate the Armed Forces of the warring parties and thus create favorable conditions for diplomatic negotiations to end this conflict. It seems that this organization was created for such events. And now they are doing nothing but expressing "concern".
Today I read that Poland is going to give 29 their fighter jets to USA and USA is going to give them to Ukraine.
Also, more than 20 000 foreign troops is going to defend Ukraine in International legion. Though, today I read on telegram that there are 40 000 foreign troops, but I don't know how reliable these numbers.
And you're right that these organizations like UN can't do something more than say that they're concerned. OSCE monitoring mission already left Ukraine.

From what I'm reading the politicians don't even know what's going on with those fighter planes.  I don't know if they're acting stupid as to throw off their enemies, or if our government is really this much of a clueless shit show, but I'd prefer to think it's the former.  Unfortunately, decades of watching politicians be clueless leads me to believe that may our government (United States) is really so out of touch and disorganized that they really have no clue what deals they're making and for what...  I wish I had more confidence, but it's almost like the people in charge are purposely doing stupid things to increase prices and put a fire to the feet of the middle class.  I guess too many entrepreneurs are finding success these days and the government needs to put some pain on it's citizens with inflation to bring them back in line of needing to be taken care of.  The next couple of years are going to be a government induced shit show.  Please don't refinance your homes or take on unnecessary debt right now.  Your future self with thank you. 

As for how long Ukraine can survive...  As long as Russia allows them to.  They are clearly outmatched.  It's just a question of how far Russia is willing to go.
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March 08, 2022, 04:43:50 PM
#37
I understand, though I do not agree, why neither America nor Europe is sending troops to help Ukraine. I can even understand why they do not cover the sky (Putin has already stated that he would regard any such attempt as entering the war). However, I can't understand why we won't be given planes and more air defense systems. Nor can I understand why the UN cannot send peacekeepers to separate the Armed Forces of the warring parties and thus create favorable conditions for diplomatic negotiations to end this conflict. It seems that this organization was created for such events. And now they are doing nothing but expressing "concern".
Today I read that Poland is going to give 29 their fighter jets to USA and USA is going to give them to Ukraine.
Also, more than 20 000 foreign troops is going to defend Ukraine in International legion. Though, today I read on telegram that there are 40 000 foreign troops, but I don't know how reliable these numbers.
And you're right that these organizations like UN can't do something more than say that they're concerned. OSCE monitoring mission already left Ukraine.
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March 08, 2022, 10:43:18 AM
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Unfortunately, Putin is using any NATO action to interpret it against Ukraine. NATO does not want to take us - of course, who needs us but Russia, only Russia can protect us, so let's make sure that only with Russia we can survive and coexist.

NATO is hinting they might take us - Russia sees this as a complete carte blanche to start a full-scale war, because of course, NATO will immediately give us tons of weapons and start producing nuclear weapons in my country for the sole purpose of erasing Russia from the world map.

To anyone capable of rational thinking, it sounds absurd and even ridiculous if it weren't so sad. However, this is the delusion that has been feeding the Russian people for decades. And they don't see anything at all except what a bunch of inadequate people tell them on TV.
I am glad even a Ukrainian can understand this whole war this way. The more one tends to follow the issue as it unfolds, the more you tend to get a clear picture why its all going down the way its going. The sad news is, Ukraine seem to have have the one caught in this whole propaganda of NATO and US politics. I saw a phrase somewhere and it states "who wouldn't react or respond should an enemy lin over your neighbours wall and aims a gun at your head ".

The agreement that ensured between NATO and the former Soviet Union which is chiefly Russia was that, NATO won't move an inch close to Russia and somehow, NATO have breached that agreement by sorting further expansion. The sad news is, NATO is a body and not some boundary bounded nation and as such, Russia directed its war towards the supposedly newest member.

I don't in anyway support violence or shading of blood but, words of agreements should be honored. Its our best chance to building a civilised world.  It's my hope that peace do return to both these nations real soon!
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March 08, 2022, 06:49:07 AM
#35
USA can't really  stop Russia from doing what they feel to do to Ukraine  because the USA knows if they try anything hard or try to fight back Russia they will face the consequences.  The US would not like to involve themselves in anything that will will affect their citizens.  I heard that the Russians have the biggest missile submarine  in the world, the US would like to avoid problems.

I understand, though I do not agree, why neither America nor Europe is sending troops to help Ukraine. I can even understand why they do not cover the sky (Putin has already stated that he would regard any such attempt as entering the war). However, I can't understand why we won't be given planes and more air defense systems. Nor can I understand why the UN cannot send peacekeepers to separate the Armed Forces of the warring parties and thus create favorable conditions for diplomatic negotiations to end this conflict. It seems that this organization was created for such events. And now they are doing nothing but expressing "concern".
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March 07, 2022, 05:43:19 PM
#34
USA can't really  stop Russia from doing what they feel to do to Ukraine  because the USA knows if they try anything hard or try to fight back Russia they will face the consequences.  The US would not like to involve themselves in anything that will will affect their citizens.  I heard that the Russians have the biggest missile submarine  in the world, the US would like to avoid problems.
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March 07, 2022, 03:20:05 PM
#33
Moreover, they attack civilian targets in order to cause the population to panic and create chaos in defense. In order for the population to start begging to stop the war by any means, even if it means complete surrender. But really they did not expect such resistance, especially from civilians.

They are also besieging cities and banning humanitarian convoys from delivering essential goods. Volunteer cars have been fired on more than once. This is another way to make people under siege believe that Ukraine will spit on them and that no one but Russia will help them. That is why they are creating "green corridors" to Russia so that exhausted people can come to their aid, thinking that Ukraine will no longer help them. But these barbarians were wrong here too. Ukrainians are much more confident in themselves and in Ukraine than these mercenaries in their Russia.
They wanted to make blitzkrieg operation and took Ukraine in few days, but when they realized that's impossible, they targeted civilians. And you're right, in such way they trying to achieve complete capitualtion from Ukraine.
And offcourse, they're spreading ugly propaganda that Ukrainian forces is shooting to civilians and that they don't allow to make green coridors.
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March 07, 2022, 12:59:51 PM
#32
Ukraine might be loosing the war with Russians forces pushing further but you can be rest assured that this war would not be over until Ukrainians reclaims there home land. There is nothing more powerful or motivating than fighting for one's right and that's the case of Ukraine and Ukrainians. They've got the consciousness and conviction that, what they are fighting for is there own freedom of which it truly is and as such, they will endure as much as they need to until the war is won in there favour. God be with Ukraine and Ukrainians in this war and its my hope that this peace that is greatly sort out for returns to our world once more.

We are fighting for our freedom. We don't wan to be a part of russian empire, we want to be a part of the civilized world. That's it.

Thank you guys from all over the world for your support. It means a lot for us here.
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March 07, 2022, 12:36:11 PM
#31
Ukraine might be loosing the war with Russians forces pushing further but you can be rest assured that this war would not be over until Ukrainians reclaims there home land. There is nothing more powerful or motivating than fighting for one's right and that's the case of Ukraine and Ukrainians. They've got the consciousness and conviction that, what they are fighting for is there own freedom of which it truly is and as such, they will endure as much as they need to until the war is won in there favour. God be with Ukraine and Ukrainians in this war and its my hope that this peace that is greatly sort out for returns to our world once more.
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