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legendary
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March 03, 2022, 06:41:21 PM
#10
They're no longer surviving, they pose no resistance to the Russian army. Just looking at some of the aftermath from the Russian shelling tells you this is over, Ukraine does not have enough military power to fight the Russians, period. The USA hasn't provided any help, just some kind hearted tweets.

Also notice how Putin is targeting civilian areas in his assault - he didn't expect so much resistance, both in war and in the propaganda efforts, so he became desperate and began bombing civilian buildings. Safe to say Ukraine is gone.
You contradicting yourself - first you say that they pose no resistance and then that Putin didn't expected so much resistance. I don't know from where you're getting news, but telling that Ukraine army don't resist is complete nonsense.
''Safe to say that Ukraine is gone'' - you killed whole nation by making such sentence. Be careful by making such bald statements.
But I agree that USA didn't gave significant help. Even from sanctions for Russia perspective - sanctions that they imposed is such soft compared with what EU countries have done.
legendary
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March 03, 2022, 02:34:56 PM
#9
They're no longer surviving, they pose no resistance to the Russian army. Just looking at some of the aftermath from the Russian shelling tells you this is over, Ukraine does not have enough military power to fight the Russians, period. The USA hasn't provided any help, just some kind hearted tweets.

Also notice how Putin is targeting civilian areas in his assault - he didn't expect so much resistance, both in war and in the propaganda efforts, so he became desperate and began bombing civilian buildings. Safe to say Ukraine is gone.
legendary
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March 03, 2022, 02:23:29 PM
#8
Ukraine will last forever. It's just the Zelensky's government that's falling.

the question is how soon will ukranians admit the genocide of their regime in donbass and stop fighting

The Talmudic Jews who are running all sides of this thing will fight right down to the last Ukrainian Nazi at least.  That wouldn't exactly break my heart as someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight and who finds Nazi ideology to be distasteful.

After that, they might continue on until the non-nazi gentile cohort is smaller.  Or they might accomplish that objective over time as in various other mostly Islamic regions.  We'll just have to see.  It would be nice if other goyim around the globe took note of the ways and means of bringing about the 'world to come' (aka 'tikkun olam'), but I doubt that very many will.

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March 03, 2022, 01:30:38 PM
#7
Ukraine will last forever. It's just the Zelensky's government that's falling.

the question is how soon will ukranians admit the genocide of their regime in donbass and stop fighting
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March 03, 2022, 12:50:50 PM
#6
Ukraine will last forever. It's just the Zelensky's government that's falling.
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March 03, 2022, 08:05:53 AM
#5
Surely Ukraine will last longer because in that country there are many heroes who are ready to sacrifice their lives to fight Russian aggression. And also international support will continue to flow to Ukraine and this is what gives them encouragement!
legendary
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March 03, 2022, 05:34:53 AM
#4
This map is total fake. As well as your claims about the occupation and fall of big cities. Ukraine will stand and fight till the end, because we are fighting for something real, not illusional. Ukraine struggles for freedom, democracy and human rights. Ukraine fights for the conviction of the whole civilized world. And we will not give up, because we are sure of our own rightness. We protect our land and our right to live on it as we wish. Ukraine will continue to combat because we don`t want to live in a world invented by a bunch of unhealthy people.
Yeah, it's completely fake. Seems it was taken from some Russian website. It shows quite many Ukraine citys under control of Russia, but in reality only Kherson was taken in last 24 hours.
They are trying to achieve so called denacification, but I still don't understand how destroying cities and killing civilians is denazification. Russia themselves is scting like fascists.
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March 03, 2022, 04:03:50 AM
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Despite the effort of the USA and their ally Ukraine is losing ground every day. Kyiv could fall anytime and some major city is already under Russian control. RF would stop after the fall of Kyiv or does Putin has some other plan in mind? This prolonged war could drain the resource of the EU and Russia but in long term, it could bring some stability in that region or we could see another cold war?

This map is total fake. As well as your claims about the occupation and fall of big cities. Ukraine will stand and fight till the end, because we are fighting for something real, not illusional. Ukraine struggles for freedom, democracy and human rights. Ukraine fights for the conviction of the whole civilized world. And we will not give up, because we are sure of our own rightness. We protect our land and our right to live on it as we wish. Ukraine will continue to combat because we don`t want to live in a world invented by a bunch of unhealthy people.
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March 03, 2022, 01:23:47 AM
#2
If by some other plan you mean going further than Ukraine then the answer is a definitive no. Would he go for the whole of Ukraine? I doubt it because holding a certain territory for a smaller amount of time is possible, anything longer is not doable. I think that studies show that you need 5 occupying soldiers on the ground for 1 local insurgent, and Russia would not be able to sustain that long-term. Even though media reporting is not to be completely trusted (not that they are lying but maybe they do not get the right info), it seems to me that Russians are downplaying the impact sanctions will have on them, and I do believe, in the long run, it would take a significant toll, that would, in return, affect their military power when trying to preserve their presence in a specific region. So it really depends on what we consider as surviving (regarding Ukraine).
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March 02, 2022, 11:41:28 PM
#1


Despite the effort of the USA and their ally Ukraine is losing ground every day. Kyiv could fall anytime and some major city is already under Russian control. RF would stop after the fall of Kyiv or does Putin has some other plan in mind? This prolonged war could drain the resource of the EU and Russia but in long term, it could bring some stability in that region or we could see another cold war?
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