Topic: How succesful will AI projects be to win the house? - page 2. (Read 3140 times)

What I deduced from what you wrote is mixed, and for this, I will give a mixed contribution. AI dominance is non-negotiable, what we saw in the scientific movies while growing up is now becoming today's reality and it will get to the extent that they will have to be cautious so that it will not affect the economy and ways of life. In business, it has started now, many businesses are now using it for responses and some light coding work, that's crazy, but still the beginning stage. There will soon be some AIs for specific works over time, not the ones that will respond to inquiries, so I wonder what will happen to the job market, safety and privacies over time because nothing can be trusted these days.

For gambling, they've started it already, I have encountered many of the services, and it could be annoying in some cases. Maybe they get to perfect them over time. But one thing they will be careless about is letting it do some coding work and security jobs for them, if they do, then they will surely regret it. This also goes to anyone who plans to win with AI in casinos, they will ever deceive themselves.
 

Actually, the mindset that AI can actually improve our winning percentage in gambling is not right because it is basically not possible. How can you expect an AI to predict the outcome of a bet that is generated through a random number generator? Do random number generators generate numbers on a sequence that one can remember and AI will be fed with that data so that it can remember it? I don't really think doing something like that is possible.

So, AI cannot be used to beat the house and we shouldn't think about this. However, you are right that one might use an AI model or a bot to automate their betting process if they don't want to do that manually themselves but that wouldn't increase their winning chances against the house.

I`d prefer to call such people - testers but not gamblers. It is normally to test each product before common use and i`m sure that every casino will test their AI. But i think that it will be upload on some test server where common gamblers haven`t access. And of course it is possible to ask friends to test, may be pay them for work. But about winning - i think that they willn`t use real money for tests - the AI may work bad and gamblers can win too much.

Yes, there are many ways to think that some players are only interested in winning in a casino, they are not interested in playing and having fun, they do not activate that adrenaline, much less activate the impulse because they Encourage you to continue playing or doing other types of things , no, there are players who are only interested in playing to win and that's it, then obviously if you choose between winning or having fun, they will choose to earn money without having fun, this for some, then come the solutions in an AI robot where you can to guarantee that you can win , then the issue is not so complex in this case, because for now, as I have said, the AI has been born for many, which they see as fashion, or it is a fashion, because honestly with all the boom it has had It is something impressive, so it is also a way of entertaining other people, because I know that in stronger state organizations like NASA and others they are with other things, which are much more advanced than the AI itself.

So an AI for many is seen as the Holy Grail , but they should not see it that way because the AI for now is not suitable to launch it into a casino and beat it, there is a lot to work on, it still needs a lot , but honestly I do not rule out that in some years they manage to optimize the AI so much that if they could threaten the security of a casino, it is for this reason that now the casinos have already been taking the reins over this, as well as all the systems in the world, including the banking ones, to protect yourself Against these AI things, because we all know that there are a lot of people in the world who are very smart and obviously right now they are working to make a robot that will obviously defeat security systems and get into a casino to make them able to to win, that is something that is over-thought, of course what you say is very important, the meaning of fun, and Everything we feel when playing well, all that is lost, because a robot will do it all, the joy will be make money, but the enthusiasts and all the casinos will not be people who will feel good.

The casino doesn't need to tell general users but only the team within the casino and the people who have been invited to test the application. This is necessary so that when it is released, the application is ready to use and there will be no serious problems that could bother general users when they try it. And it will become a strategy when the casino announces it to the public.

But developers who develop AI can also invite their friends or even other people to test the application to see how far the application can work. This may take a long time because the developer needs to find the appropriate settings to find an application that can run well. We also can't say how high the percentage of AI will be used to beat the casino or vice versa, as it is still under further development.

It is possible but as for me - i don`t see advantages for casino for a long distance. Some casino can use it to attract attention may be, some casino can make some show like online stream. It can be a part of strategy of promotion. But i don`t think that they need to announce it. They can just don`t say about it and test it of common users. May be with small bets.

The casino can try everything, especially to get better results, which are expected to help the casino to be even better. To test AI, the casino may need some gamblers as outsiders from the casino to take part in the test so the casino can learn what the results are or need to do more research.

For errors in the long run, the casino will find them so they can fix them together with their security team and research team. And the casino will work with the developers to get even better results. But if the AI were developed by a developer who is not affiliated with the casinos and wants to beat them, it would be even more interesting to follow its development.

I don`t think that it is interesting for the casino. They can hire some gamblers as testers for marketing, or they make bounty campaign to test their AI, but i think that it can become a mistake for a long distance. The gambler would be happy to test AI but if the AI win - it will be a reason to change casino. And if the AI lose - it is a bad AI and it means that the casino can`t afford themselves good programmers.

We can see that AI dominance keep increasing and we shall not be surprised if things get clingy and many people will start using artificial intelligence in there various businesses. This is gambling and I have seen some of the gaming bots that are very unique in the results they give better than what an ordinary human can get as a result. We should be surprised if things get out of hands and gamblers will start utilizing there intellectual to create there own bots monetizing it at the same time using it to make more money for themselves.

Although we're talking about the future, I'm not arguing that AI can already take down a casino. What is currently impossible in technology becomes achievable in the future

AI, however, cannot and will not overcome the house advantage. The goal of casinos is to make money, not to lose it. They have some of the greatest system development teams. Undoubtedly, AI may enhance operations and customer relations. But do you believe AI has the potential to one day win against the odds? That is an absurd dream

Thoughtful use of AI in casinos should not, however, be taken for granted. AI has applications in security, game design, and customized consumer experiences in addition to customer service. Remember, the future is here

I mean. You gotta remember that we already have people who is willing (and somehow find entertaining) to see other gamble their money on streaming platforms during entire hours. It is pretty mush similar to those who watch lets plays on Youtube instead buying video games themselves.

So, if there are some many people out there who have fun watching gambling streams, then it is safe to assume they would no problem if they could use an artificial intelligence to automate their gambling sessions and at the same time improving their winning rates by some percentage points. I would not even about looting a casino, because we all know no casino would allow that to happen, they are a business; it is rather about enhancing their gambling experience.

Indeed, the particular subject video shared by OP is merely an attempt to make the bot play the game, it does not necessarily and specifically make for gambling bots. The AI, in this case, is only a tool that helps to achieve something, whether it is to play the game or build a tool/bot for some specific game.


The house/system never loses. If it is able to be beaten by anything in a non-destructive way like hacking, the system is inherently broken. So this case is not a matter of whether it is possible to beat the house or not, but rather that systemic failure if the house has the potential to be beaten.

I think it is hard to think that AI can do it. There were topics where AI can do a trading for you and now here we are AI can also gamble. I don't understand one thing in this case scenario --> If you gamble with the AI, where is FUN? This is straight up with the intention to loot the casino and make money out of it quickly. However, those who think AI's can work and this is future then RIP the entire concept because there is simple algorithm that is always playing its trick behind every casino and that is called as House Edge %.

I am pretty sure every gambler knows this very well. You can not and will never win the house edge if it is programmed that way. An AI might give you some winning automatically but it will have to surrender the money when house edge is in effect. I don't know how even they are thinking about it?

Yes, the casino has a team to test the AI to see how it is progressing in their casino so they can determine when they will launch the AI or keep the AI secret in their casino. But if there are gamblers the casino invites to try the AI, it is a good opportunity for them because they can see what kind of technology the casino will implement. The gamblers can also think about how they can win the game even though winning the game is still a difficult thing to do.

Gamblers like us who only use gambling for fun will not think about how the AI works or what the AI will be like because we just want to enjoy our gambling time and don't expect to achieve any goals. But if we can still win from the casino even though the casino has implemented AI, it will be a surprise for us because it turns out that we still have a chance to win and still have the luck to win.

Nope. Of course casino can test AI but they don`t need gamblers for it - they have their own testers. And if the gamblers get opportunity to use AI - some of them, who qualified enough and wants to maximize his profit - they will use AI everywhere it is possible. And when it will become easy to use - the AI will be used by big quantity of gamblers and the gamblers who gamble just for fun(like me) will only lose and it wouldn`t be fun.

      -     If there are gamblers who use such, it is usually gambling bots that have been designed or programmed to be used, but it is still not accurate to say that they will win all games. because that's all that's been programmed up to that point.

Now, if there are still other gamblers who want to be able to identify the patterns in their playing, maybe the AI they use is powered analytic, but even so, we know that the advantage is always with the house edge and no one else.

The anxiety is whether or not AI will improve human life on work against the improvement of human experience on casinos and other sectors e.g trading, but none the less I am very positive that in the near future humans will be able to build superior knowledge to combat Artificial Intelligence where the need be,  and such areas like trading,  gambling which is more prevalent to us here in this discussion AI won't be able to 100% defeat human,  even though the chances are there but with its of knowledge,  skills and experience of the human he should be able to build a formidable resistant and be able to beat AI to it.

If casinos should adopt AI as for the in-house games against the gambler then it could be something that will bring further pain to gamblers since the house edge is already draining gamblers' resources and chances of winning, If AI is included that means the ordinary gamblers are will only be left with Sportsbet and football games prediction since those events are live event and AI can't manipulate its outcome,  but other casino games that are in the house will be avoided due to AI adoption by casinos so that will also affect their business.

Businesses will want to use it when they see their revenue increase, AI is becoming an attractive system because people are still less experienced with this AI. Normal gamblers will definitely have a tough time in the near future, because competing with humans can win, but competing with AI will be very difficult. Many others, including myself, may be waiting to see what changes will come in the future. And whether the gambling community can come up with a solution using AI.

There is no worse example than this Now, from what has happened in the crypto market, crypto traders understand very well how terrible AI is and how it can control the market in any direction. So how much impact AI can have on the gambling industry is beyond the imagination of normal gamblers like us.

If a gambler will use AI to bet in the casino then that's a big advantages cause AI will know some of the things that human can not do. Which means there's a high percentage of winning if you will use AI. BUT always remember that the owner of the casino is not just poor enough to be defeated in short the owner is already know that there's a chance that gamblers can use AI to play in his casino so The casino owner will make a way to stop that AI.