Topic: How succesful will AI projects be to win the house? - page 4. (Read 3140 times)

The only thing that can make casino allow gambler to win is the law. As i know all casino`s bots has a program with winning percentage. If the casino can get more money from the gamblers - they do it. It is just a business and the profit is the main goal. If the AI will allow to increase gamblers winrate - the casino will use AI to decrease it to minimal allowed.

Do we really think that casinos arent aware with those probabilities about having that kind of application on using up AI in regarding their gametime or gameplays and taking that advantage? For sure they had

already that kind of consideration and having already that possibly solution on the things if ever this one would be materialized or something that could really happen. In any business, then there's a certain risks
and as an owner then you would really be finding ways to avoid those probabilities which might causes for you to be able to experience some losses just because those players are milking out your company or platform. Therefore, you would really be coming up to the idea that you would really be that finding up ways on how to battle against it or detecting if there are users who do took advantage.
We do really know that AI is really that progressing which it does have pros and cons in between gamblers and the platform itself.

I am not sure AI can actually outsmart systems that are specifically designed to have most of the chances for the house to win, such as roulette, black-jack, spins,... However, games such as poker or other local card games that are not only about chance, but about learning and having a strategy are actually a perfect game field for evolving systems that learn.

AI have gained alot of traction this days and lately it has become fhe new trends through which many ofhwr scam have happened also, so whenever the is a new development, the bad axtors in the industry will always fine ways to abuse them forcing people to have bad notions about thise new development, AI have gained alot of success in trading but even at that we have some other few aspects that still serves as limitations for that, but in gambling, i havent seen any AI that has proven any level of success against the casino own system which is design to give the house an edge over the players at all time.

I know for the fact that AI or bota can be helpful in performing some task but then also we cant  tell what AI/bots limitations are unless it has been manifested and in most cases, it leads to losses.

I think that what you say is very true, the AI is advancing by leaps and bounds, that is something that is noticeable when tests could be made to play, I have not had the opportunity to test specialized robots to play but it is obvious that things will they can do when they need to or have an objective that is to earn money, and the desire to have a lot of money makes players innovate, learn or pay for having the best AI robots to help them win, I don't know as it works well, but just as the AI develops and analyzes each play well, the AI can do more things, because it Analyzes a game, knows what to play and the odds increase, I'm not saying that the AI will beat the casino at once , but if you can help make the best play.

If we go to human logic, there comes a time when a class of players doesn't care about the game, they only care about making money, because they feel that the Casino has taken a lot from them, and one way is that using the AI and its Powerful help can match you force the house advantage, this can be interpreted in many ways , because Obviously people want to win, and if they win regardless of the path, well, what does it matter, money is money, and that human nature is such a thing They happen, some people have no scruples and do it , Regardless of whether they later give them a flattery Whatever , but that seems to me unfair competition, in systems that are based on Provably Fair it is what I trust the most in a casino and in a game, given its Nature of Being Completely Legal and it can be dutiated quickly and Efficiently, as far as casinos currently use AI, yes, but I consider that they use it for support and security Services, more with all these threats Needed.

Actually if there are games with AI, well, it Really happened like an ignorant Person, I don't know how Legal that is, I don't know if it is allowed within the rules of a casino, because basically the AI thing came to light right now, but that's already been They have been making many developments, just when I was studying, they were already talking about AI, what happens is that the AI that they show us now, seems to me to be Obsolete , for only one reason , Advances are thrown at us when Scientists Consider that Technology obsolete , for them they are handling more Advanced things , that is logical , but nothing more than obsolete technology for them and advanced for us, where are the limits then? we only have and see the point of the iceberg , in the world they Entertain us with things, like these and like UFOs and others , but the true technology is more advanced, perhaps the Technology is at a good level to violate casinos or any system and we don't know yet.

It is also important to ensure that the casino provides a safe platform to play. AI typically use encrypted software and provide technical support for players. But AI are very difficult for common people because these systems are working with the improvement of technology but the computing power is increasing at a significant rate every year. As this technology collects much more information about people, and can process that information faster than humans, it has an impact on the lives of ordinary people.

Sorry but you are hugely mistaken. Casinos don't build and run their games on pure lack, casinos mathematically calculate all the possibilities to configure games in a way that they are guaranteed to win. The House Edge is simply a mathematical advantage that represents the average gross profit that the casino can reliably expect to make from each game ^{[Investopedia article]}.
Just think about Zero in roulette that has 36 numbers, think about the fact that casino dealer is the last one who opens the cards in BlackJack. Think that Slots have fixed RTP where doesn't matter who and how much they bet, it's guaranteed to profit. How can an AI change that? What kind of strategy can AI build to beat the RTP on slot machine? I simply say that I pay 20% back what you bet, no strategy can affect that decision. So, the AI is no threat in gambling!

Maybe it's not a strategy but rather predictive information about who will win in the match to give us clues about who we can choose. With the ability of AI, we can speed up search time because they can collect data from various sources and process it so that it can be presented to us. We only need to analyze further to find out who is superior to the two teams. But in the future, if the development of AI is more advanced, AI can also provide strategies that have a chance of winning that we can use based on AI analysis. But we still have to wait until some developers roll out some updates.

your assumption that casinos might play fair just because of some "AI development" is laughable. Casinos are in the game for one reason: profit! You think they care if some players win now and then? Those few wins are breadcrumbs thrown to keep the masses coming back for more, to milk them dry. It’s a psychological game

AI, under development or not, will only amplify the casino's tactics to ensure they win. Think about it. If you believe they'll use AI to offer a fair playing field, you're living in a fantasy world. Casinos don't get built on winners. If they employ AI, it'll be to ensure they empty pockets even more efficiently! Brace yourself, because if you’re counting on technology to level the playing field, you're in for a rude awakening

It's not like you think how it works, if the user is not given a win of course it will reduce their interest to play again and gamble on that casino site, even though the casino can improve their AI performance of course they still only manage it and also prevent more users from winning against the house, after all it is difficult to get a win against the house.

But at least there are some players that the dealer will win, as usual so no need to worry about that, currently AI technology is still under development and adjustments also in the casino, somehow how it works but I'm sure it won't be more than usual, because the casino don't want to lose their users just because they are greedy, maybe the AI used can read the user's playing character so that their emotions can be played so they are easier to beat. but we'll see in a few years. but so far personally never used AI against casinos.

It would be difficult only at start. Some time later we`ll get instructions how to use AI against the casino. The main thing that can change gambling totally - if the casino will improve their AI to stop gamblers wins using AI. The result will be that the common gamblers willn`t have a chance to win anything. And when i gamble - i gamble for fun, such AI will decrease my interest to minimal.

You are very right and I completely agree with you bud, I think several gamblers are actually over estimating what Ai can do, i have said it times without number that Ai technology is still very young, and I don't see it being able to provide any effective gambling strategy or strategies any time soon, if this is ever going to happen, it will take years and years of developments and upgrades, and as for sports betting, Ai can be or can provide really good insights just as you have said, it can also bring up some really good predictions based on the match history of both teams playing, but then, the final decision to make will always be in the hands of the bettor, and i also think it will be a foolish thing to believe that Ai can be depended upon for an always effective and correct match predictions, No no, it is important to have it in mind that, there are times most or some of the predictions will be wrong, so better to always do our own research before making any final decision.

It seems like some members are over-estimating the potential of AI systems and believe they can predict the future or make some miracles happen. It reminds me of how some others were talking about quantum computers.
AI can help in decision making and can give us some insights that we could have overlooked but in no way it can predict the result of a match or fight with total certainty.
And as I said in another thread, if gamblers are going to use this technology to help them then casinos and odds providers will use it too, maybe will even use more advanced algorithms, to set the proper odds.

I doubt AI can give any effective strategies to bet for the future result of any fights/games, though they can give insights of their previous games and fights. A lower odds games with a huge potential to win for both team/fighters will be difficult to choose

Yes, I agree with both of you about how the use of A.I have become very prominent this days, but let's not forget the fact that at all times, a gambler only has 1% chance of winning a game, while the casino has 99% chance too of winning every game ever play, which is the reason why the casino house is always at the winning side and will continue being on the winning side. Because when it comes to the use of A.I, it will only perform base on the level of information at it's disposal and nothing more, and likewise bot too, making gambling mostly centered on luck.

If the casinos focus more on generating their revenue by using AI then they will reduce the interest of the gambler, a gambler always wants a transparent casino where gambling can give a satisfaction. So even casinos that are getting more interested in AI have to think that at some point they will start losing users because they are giving gamblers a hard time using AI.

But I also think that the gambling community will not be silent, they will also develop something more advanced, then maybe the casino will have to face a hard time, and then again the casinos can cancel the withdrawal of gamblers with various excuses that they have won using AI.

Though I still wonder how can an AI help the casino to have a higher percentage of winning than the gambler aside from their house edge.  We all know that luck-based game result is randon,  If it is to be tampered with AI then the casino is cheating to its player. 

AI can be a good data profiler, percentage analyst, and anything that have something to do with data analysis. But I do not think that it can tamper the result of any Luck-based game unless it is intended to but if that happens, the casino is cheating since they are modifying gambling result with the helo if AI.

Same goes with the player, as long as AI do not have access to the game system, it will never be successful in helping a player to win against the house.

Yes the the casino already have tons of bots working on their system and their will even go as far as employing AI service to battle against the gambler,  this is why the casino is always at an advantage over the gambler and this is because of those system their already have in place to aid their interest.

AI development has grown so well in recetimesime and we have AI that can perform a lot responsibilitiesity that may be way hard for a human to attain,  but nonetheless,  AI still needs human contribution to make its operation perfect and effective.

Casinos are using AI maybe against gamblers, AI is smart enough so it is difficult for a gambler to profit against AI. Now if a gambler wants to gamble using AI then it will become really difficult for a gambler because the experience of using AI properly is also important to get good results. However, I feel that using AI in gambling will greatly reduce the real feel of gambling, as people who gamble for entertainment will not have much interest in using AI to gamble.