Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 2. (Read 4473 times)

If we are convinced right from our mind that we cannot do or achieve something, then there is no amount of words and encouragement that can make such happened expect we are changed from the initial perspective we have towards that same thing, in gambling, we can go for what we want, there is freedom of making selection, but many choose the way they appear all because they lack in some information's required for them to know and go through, while such could have been helpful in their gambling.

Firstl, I still think that account trading is risky even though the prices you have given may seem attractive. And if you can delete all that data from the account, why would someone buy it? It is assumed that the account is registered in your personal name, that this name can never be changed, and that the rest of the data (payment card or confirmation address) matches it. This means that the process of change is not possible as easily as we imagine.

Secondly, you are not an unknown person on the Internet since you are a reputed member on the forum, according to your profile. This good reputation gives your ideas a kind of credibility that makes readers trust them to some extent. This holds you (as an honest member) morally responsible for what you publish. On this basis, I advise you to be careful about publishing some suggestions or sensitive ideas.

You guys should stop deceiving yourself about this and thereby preaching weakness to people. There are testable working ways to stop addiction and there are addicts that can testify to it. The fact that something is tough to achieve does not mean that it can't be achieved, and the fact that a certain means of cure doesn't work for some certain people doesn't mean it is not the right advice or procedure, people are different, and so how they take thing. There are many factors to be considered here as well, which include the willingness of the gambler in question, the level of the damage already caused and the mind power of the gambler himself.

However, this mind power goes a long way, and if it is weak, the procedure may not land on the right soil but a rocky ground in the minds of the addicts which will make it difficult for it to yield as expected. Enough gamblers have visited therapists without any medicine and got healed, it is all out meeting the right experts and the cooperation of the person himself. However, those kinds of efforts like self-exclusion or locking of one's money are not procedural for an adduct to heal, they are just like cutting the grass from the surface, it will continue to germinate if it is not uprooted from the root.

They cost nothing. I remove my bank cards, my e-mail, phone number if it is possible between leaving it. If it is impossible to remove all paying methods i used - i delete it.
The accounts i use differs. Some of them has about $10-20, few are about $250-500. Summary it is about $2.000-2.500 i think. But it is not fixed sum - i bet a lot and withdraw regularly.
In a public forum i can say tell my opinion. And all of us must understand that it is not a good idea to follow the advices of unknown person without own research.

This is not only just a strange logic, but it can also be considered reckless logic. Can you give us an estimate of the price of any of your casino accounts? Either the accounts currently active or ones you abandoned in the past. Do you think this amount is worth risking your private data that you cannot predict on how any scammer might use it? I can't find logical arguments for this, especially since I'm not the type to adopt strange logics regarding my privacy as well as my assets.
We are discussing in a public forum and your thoughts may inspire some to try some risks. It would be good to avoid expressing opinions that might harm those who are trying to implement them.

I think that's true for any kind of addiction sadly, but that's not a reason to stop doing things that reduce your gambling activity if you feel it takes a toll on you. While there is no sure way to stop your addiction other than death, self-exclusions, asking for help, and so on is still better than doing it alone. It might even affect your well-being if you focus too much on willpower and feel like you're a terrible person if you fail to control it.

Well, I have seen some cases here in the forum where they say that when a person excludes themselves from a casino it is because they have previously been addicted people or players and those people have been with a certain point of view where basically they have been very compromised by their addiction and since you have overcome it and since you don't want to regret it again, you may be tempted to play and do it. If they win or lose, they don't want to fall again and that's why they sneak through a casino exclusion, I see it as something heroic for those types of people, for those who try it it may not be useless, and if they can't achieve it it still is. more, but I give them credit because at least they tried.

You can ask your ISP to block casinos but I believe not every of them will be included in their database and even if they block, you can still use VPN and access them. If you block yourself from certain casinos, you can still create a new one, even if it's a non-anonymous casino because many casinos don't ask you to submit KYC immediately, it happens over time. You can also ask your close friend or relative to create an account for you. There is no real way online to 100% exclude yourself from gambling, let alone anonymous gambling sites. Everyone has to work on their willpower. If you don't have willpower, you will not be able to self-exclude yourself from anything.

I don`t believe in self exclusion. Ask casino to close the account would be more honestly and he willn`t has any problems with this account later. But, as i said, i can just suggest how it works - i never had such problems and can`t shate my own experience.



You`re right, someone who ready to buy it 100% has some problems with casino or wants to cheat it. The best way is to delete account. But someone can choose such a way to get some money back and to know that his gambling helps someone else. It is strange logic but i think that it is possible. When i change casino, i just leave account without money or delete it.

Unfortunately, the nature and behavior of such irresponsible and reckless players cannot be changed.  At some point in the life of such a person, his actions can be completely irrational, spontaneous and even sometimes catastrophic.  Unfortunately for all the close people around him, such a person creates a lot of problems that might not have existed. 
It gets to the point that many even close people begin to think how much their lives would improve and become comfortable if such a reckless relative disappeared somewhere altogether.  Well, of course, he wouldn’t die, but, for example, he would go somewhere far away, so as not to see him anymore.  And sometimes such a person actually leaves somewhere and begins to again create problems for the people around him in a new place. 
But by the way, often this person himself believes that he behaves normally and his actions are only his personal business.  In fact, this is the highest degree of manifestation of selfishness and narcissism.  And it’s true that such people exist in life.  And it’s even better not to have anything in common with them at all, because in any case you will be to blame for all his troubles.

It would be good if someone decided to end their experience with excessive gambling that had harmed them. I agree with you that a complete break from gambling platforms would also be good evidence that the person will never want to return to his behavioral addiction again.
But this cannot be an argument to justify the same person selling his accounts on those platforms he used to use. Giving up gambling will not eliminate the fact that these accounts contain important personal information, even if it can be changed. This is a very dangerous step that could lead to undesirable or dangerous results that may include criminal prosecution if the buyer misuses the account and the platform is forced to use criminal prosecution.

I don’t think that it helps to prevent gambling addiction. Those who play casinos have multiple accounts and if they have to wait to sell them they may get back game. Self-exclusion for a time even better asking the casino to close the account completely is preferable to selling. You can also find a Self-exclusion tool for those who want to take a break from gambling. To self-exclude from a gambling site, find the self-exclusion page on the site and fill out the form. Remember that self-exclusion is not foolproof and it's important to seek help from a professional if you're struggling with a gambling addiction.

I do not recommend it as well and I don't believe that it helps with stopping gambling addiction. I believe that quitting gambling addiction is complex and it doesn't end automatically if the individual sells their account. A gambler may have multiple accounts and the wait period for selling them off may cause the person to go back into it. Self exclusion for a period of time or better still asking the casino to completely close down the account is better than selling it off. And if the gambling addict wants a long term solution, I recommend seeing a therapist that will assist them in identifying and dealing with the so the underly causes.

I don`t know, i never interested in it. I don`t recommend anybody to buy or sell accounts, but if someone wants to stop gambling  - it may be a good decision for him - he break his past with selling it.
I don`t believe that it can help, but may be someone need something like symbol that there is no way to his old habits.

Majority of us wont really care and i highly doubt that all of us wont really be tending to mind about this kind of feature this gambling site has if ever its really that available. You would really be looking up with these things on the time that you would really be finding yourself on such tough condition on which we know that this is something that will really be that a normal action or approach to have.
Actually just like been said that not all platforms does have this but just been said that quitting or having a break doesnt really need any feature for you to do so on which it would really be just that
enough for you to be able to stop if you wanted to but of course it would really be basing up on how good you are when you do have on such controlling yourself and not really just that
tolerating on the current emotion that you are really that feeling into.

Do I understand what the problem is with selling a Casino account that has already been worked on? Is it because they are VIP? I think that is something that does not make much sense , something that I value a lot is that it is very ugly to buy something that has not been Worked on for us , it is like living off the sweat of Others , or maybe I am just one person I has always looked for things on her own and I prefer to get my things by the Sweat of my brow , that is Something I have learned to do Since I was little. There are People who don't give it Importance or it could be that I am a very Conservative Person.

It is only your decision to use such opportunity or not. It is just the tool. And of course it is good that there is such opportunity, even if i don`t believe in it. May be it can help someone.
But the way to sell account or delete it looks more serious - you need to find new casino. It is not a problem of course, but it may be uncomfortable.

I see this working and all that shit but I have two concerns regarding this shit.

First off, why in the hell would you do this? To stop yourself from gambling? Dude, if the only thing that's keeping you from gambling is the lack of access to your funds then you probably need more than just this atomix wallet feature to rid yourself of your brewing addiction to gambling, you might wanna look into more radical yet effective options, like idk, admitting yourself to a rehabilitation center, cause honestly, if you're already addicted nothing's gonna stop you from gaining access to your money. Have you heard of a crackhead who doesn't smoke crack on days that he doesn't have money? He hustles for it, he makes sure he gets his fix no matter what. The same thing can be said for gambling addicts, you can put out the most elaborate cheese maze known to man to take their money away from them but they'll tear down the walls if it means they can gamble for a day.

Another would be, what makes this different than other staking mechanisms in the market, suppose to say I don't want to do this and I instead opted for Binance's staking, am I gonna be doing something wrong? Or if I put out my money on a stake pool that has more than just 21 hours of lockin period. Is it gonna be bad? Why not just put your money in there for a whole year instead of doing this rinse and repeat typa shit for 15 times?

True, it won't really be able to fully help gamblers to avoid the possibility of addiction or unsolicited actions because as you said above it all comes back to the gambler themselves which means that if for example they are one of those gamblers who are obsessed with gambling or those who gamble in the wrong way then they still won't take advantage of the exclusion feature because they will consider that the feature is not in accordance with their wishes which they only want to continue using their time to gamble.

I think the scenario may be similar to addicted gamblers where they are immune to suggestions and criticism, they will not listen to them and will continue to ignore something that does not suit them, so even though for example the purpose of the feature is to minimize gamblers from entering the addiction phase, but still in the end all decisions are in their hands which will make them free in terms of making a choice even though the choice will only lead them to a bad situation. So actually the key to not ending up addicted is always in themselves, in the sense that if for example they can maintain their gambling involvement properly such as always prioritizing limits and self-control then without such features they will definitely do many things to prevent themselves from falling into addiction.

You wont really be needing any feature or whatever exclusions that a site must have, just like you have said that everything would really be basing or depending on the control you do have or self discipline
because if you do fail on doing so, no matter how many exclusions or features available there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that completely stop on doing gambling. You would really be having that kind of problem on the time that you cant really be able to control yourself. Exclusions could neither be available or would really be that something that you could really be able to request on.

This is why if you do find yourself that being impulsive then it would really be better that you should really be that careful or totally completely stopping gambling for a while.
Dont make yourself that playing on constant manner. You cant really that make yourself be able to stop not until that you do bust it all.