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In gambling, we have to be more sure of what we are doing, then we also have to make sure we avoid some affiliate links, third party site, ads and other promotional offers from unsolicited sites which we know nothing about, if we truly don't want to get ourself into some kind of trouble we may not have the fortitude of handling, lastly, we have to be mindful of the risk involved in them before any trial.
Many bad casinos are always advertising their sites promoting their enormous bonus rewards for new users and other stuffs to lure more gamblers to their platform. Those gamblers that don't have contentment and self control can fall for this kind of tricks. Every gamblers need to know what they want and know how to get them. It's not good for us to be greedy as gamblers since scammers know how to table their tricks to enable them lure innocent gamblers that might not understand the trick of the scam.
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In gambling, we have to be more sure of what we are doing, then we also have to make sure we avoid some affiliate links, third party site, ads and other promotional offers from unsolicited sites which we know nothing about, if we truly don't want to get ourself into some kind of trouble we may not have the fortitude of handling, lastly, we have to be mindful of the risk involved in them before any trial.
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Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.


You seem to be at the polar opposite of the mentality of most gamblers, who are often impulsive and lack forward planning. I'm not sure that staking is a good solution either, because that comes with it's own unique set of risks and you have to trust the site that you are using not to disappear as well. The trouble with gamblers is they will often try to find work arounds, even if they manage to implement roadblocks like this, if they have that uncontrollable urge one day they will probably try to borrow the money - knowing that it will free up on a particular date in future. Having to self exclude 15 times in a year is also a ridiculous amount and unlikely to breed the longevity needed if someone truly wants to break this habit.
You raised good points and in all, I advise gamblers to tackle addiction with psychological solutions and not with a restrictive solution as gambling addiction is physiological too. You may try to deny yourself today but if you are addicted will find other means to boycott those restrictions, we are humans and there will always be many alternatives, it could be borrowing, or sorting money from friends and family, the list is endless. But if we can admit that we have a gambling problem and find a lasting solution to it, we may even have the whole money in this world and still not gamble again so long as are healed.

Also, the idea shared on this thread is not so smart, what if the gambler becomes the victim of an untrusted third-party site? That is the most painful part.
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Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.


You seem to be at the polar opposite of the mentality of most gamblers, who are often impulsive and lack forward planning. I'm not sure that staking is a good solution either, because that comes with it's own unique set of risks and you have to trust the site that you are using not to disappear as well. The trouble with gamblers is they will often try to find work arounds, even if they manage to implement roadblocks like this, if they have that uncontrollable urge one day they will probably try to borrow the money - knowing that it will free up on a particular date in future. Having to self exclude 15 times in a year is also a ridiculous amount and unlikely to breed the longevity needed if someone truly wants to break this habit.
Yeah.  Surely such a player will not be able to bring himself to block his account with cryptocurrency 15 times a year and not have a source of money for the game.
 I just can't imagine that at the moment when you need to tap the bet icon in this wallet for 21 days, the player can have a completely different emotional state of mind. And it is almost guaranteed that at some point in these fifteen he will  -he will finally decide to play.  And it all starts all over again with such an unsuccessful self-exclusion. In general, as an option, you can of course consider this method, but in my opinion it is poorly suited for effectively limiting gaming activity.
But I also admit that I was interested to learn about this proposal.  I just haven’t thought about this option of “freezing” game money before.
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Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.


You seem to be at the polar opposite of the mentality of most gamblers, who are often impulsive and lack forward planning. I'm not sure that staking is a good solution either, because that comes with it's own unique set of risks and you have to trust the site that you are using not to disappear as well. The trouble with gamblers is they will often try to find work arounds, even if they manage to implement roadblocks like this, if they have that uncontrollable urge one day they will probably try to borrow the money - knowing that it will free up on a particular date in future. Having to self exclude 15 times in a year is also a ridiculous amount and unlikely to breed the longevity needed if someone truly wants to break this habit.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.

I belong to that group of people who think that "self-exclusion" is a function that has no real power, if someone wants to gamble he will find a way to make it happen. The only way for someone to stop gambling is for that person to want that to happen, it's the first step... the second is finding the right way to achieve that. I am sure that some people will find it helpful if they give all to money to someone else, others can try to search for some other activity. Anyway, it's up to people to wish and look for the best way to get out of gambling.

I am sure there are some extreme cases around, these people really need serious help... both from their loved ones and from professionals. That's the only way they can get out of their addiction, but even then that person has to have at least some awareness of where they are and want to get out of that hell.

No real power or totally that useless or something a feature that doesnt make sense at all. If ever someone do really trying out to find such feature then they could be able to request it but it will really be that pointless on the moment that you do still have that urge on playing gambling. All of those exclusions or banning will really be that entirely useless because you will really be still finding up ways for you to play no matter what. There would really be those individuals who could actually stop midway on the moment that they do gamble but there would really be those who cant be able to do so just because they are really that thriving or really that trying out to make money with gambling on which this is the driving force on what make them to play even more further. We do know that not all sites offering those exclusions because  they do really wanted for their players or gamblers to become addicted and loses up their control on the moment that they do play. They do know that once people get addicted then they will really be losing into their senses and would be spending up their money like a madman on which simply means that this is really just that the things that they do wanted in casinos POV or perspective. As much as possible they will really be liking to retain those kind of players or simply this what really makes this business to be profitable due into this very common behavior of most gamblers.
Of course, players who spend money like crazy on gambling and are already in the stage of gambling addiction are an ideal source of income for a casino. And this is often a very decent flow of money from one such player. This is naturally important for the casino's profit and the management kind of turns a blind eye to the fact that they are thus crippling people's lives and destroying families, and sometimes even breeding crazy people from such players. And the self-exclusion function really just doesn't work in the case of such people with gambling addiction. It's just that none of them use this opportunity.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.

I belong to that group of people who think that "self-exclusion" is a function that has no real power, if someone wants to gamble he will find a way to make it happen. The only way for someone to stop gambling is for that person to want that to happen, it's the first step... the second is finding the right way to achieve that. I am sure that some people will find it helpful if they give all to money to someone else, others can try to search for some other activity. Anyway, it's up to people to wish and look for the best way to get out of gambling.

I am sure there are some extreme cases around, these people really need serious help... both from their loved ones and from professionals. That's the only way they can get out of their addiction, but even then that person has to have at least some awareness of where they are and want to get out of that hell.

No real power or totally that useless or something a feature that doesnt make sense at all. If ever someone do really trying out to find such feature then they could be able to request it but it will really be that pointless on the moment that you do still have that urge on playing gambling. All of those exclusions or banning will really be that entirely useless because you will really be still finding up ways for you to play no matter what. There would really be those individuals who could actually stop midway on the moment that they do gamble but there would really be those who cant be able to do so just because they are really that thriving or really that trying out to make money with gambling on which this is the driving force on what make them to play even more further. We do know that not all sites offering those exclusions because  they do really wanted for their players or gamblers to become addicted and loses up their control on the moment that they do play. They do know that once people get addicted then they will really be losing into their senses and would be spending up their money like a madman on which simply means that this is really just that the things that they do wanted in casinos POV or perspective. As much as possible they will really be liking to retain those kind of players or simply this what really makes this business to be profitable due into this very common behavior of most gamblers.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.

I belong to that group of people who think that "self-exclusion" is a function that has no real power, if someone wants to gamble he will find a way to make it happen. The only way for someone to stop gambling is for that person to want that to happen, it's the first step... the second is finding the right way to achieve that. I am sure that some people will find it helpful if they give all to money to someone else, others can try to search for some other activity. Anyway, it's up to people to wish and look for the best way to get out of gambling.

I am sure there are some extreme cases around, these people really need serious help... both from their loved ones and from professionals. That's the only way they can get out of their addiction, but even then that person has to have at least some awareness of where they are and want to get out of that hell.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.
The best way for us to self exclude yourself from gambling is not by giving the funds to your wife to manage because your salary is not going straight to her account. Everything is going to your account and you need to pay some bills also on a daily basis when going to work and trying to pay for foods ana other things. Money will always enter your hand which can be diverted to okay bets that is why it's is better one discipline themselves rather trying to escape gambling when we are not doing the necessary thing or putting in place strict measures to enhance you form staying away from gambling for as long as possible.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.

If one deposits his money with his wife, he may not get much financial support for gambling because if he takes money from his wife, he must be accountable for the sector in which he spends that money. and we all believe that everyone's wife is more financially conscious than them. so it can be a good way to protect gambling. But if you want to gamble and you can't quit then by all means you can. so first of all you have to be aware of yourself otherwise it is not possible to stay away from gambling
When you say one has to be aware of himself, what exactly do you mean? Asking because I am wondering myself, and I don't mind a clear and comprehensible answer or response from you bud.

And going further, I am a married man, and by the grace of God, I meet my wife in 2015, and as from 2016, we have been living together till date.
From my experience, wifes in general (I used the word "wifes" because it's not the same as women) or at least 90 percent of them are more sensitive to finance and how money is being spent in the family than the man, even though in reality and in most families, it's the man bringing home the money.
So, I agree that, if a man who is addicted to gambling has a good wife, and he decided to entrust all his income into the hands of his wife as a way to try to quench his usual hunger for gambling, this i would say is much better and cheaper medication to gambling addiction than therapy or whatever it's refered to as.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.

If one deposits his money with his wife, he may not get much financial support for gambling because if he takes money from his wife, he must be accountable for the sector in which he spends that money. and we all believe that everyone's wife is more financially conscious than them. so it can be a good way to protect gambling. But if you want to gamble and you can't quit then by all means you can. so first of all you have to be aware of yourself otherwise it is not possible to stay away from gambling
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.
I like this, it shows you face the reality. What most of these exercises are achieving is to restrain the gambler but not cure gambling, so it will never work unless the gambler is not truly addicted. Addicted gamblers will always look for alternative ways to gamble and I've debunked the claim once on this thread that giving your wife your credit card will not solve anything even though some people agreed that giving the wife such cards will fix the addict 100%, who careless is that?

Gambling addiction is powerful, it is psychology and will always infest the gambler unless a psychological approach is used to tackle it. This psychological curing approach will even entail giving the gambler choices and giving him access to gambling unhindered. If it works, he will naturally forbid gambling even if he has access to it and the whole world's money in his bank account. That's true healing.
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Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
In my opinion, you can't just give your money to any wife so that she can manage it. It may well be that she herself will start spending it on complete nonsense like unnecessary items of clothing or stupid jewelry. And besides, the effectiveness of the method of giving the player's money to his wife works only if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction. Otherwise, he will still find money for his game. And if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction, then he himself can regulate his gaming history. So it turns out that the method "give all the money to the wife" is not very effective. However, it leads the player to serious dependence on the wife. And the wife can be very greedy and generally a nasty woman. It's up to each person's luck.
You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.
Often, many wives do not even realize that their husband, a gambler, has already reached the stage of addiction to gambling. They think that this is just a man's way of having fun and nothing more. And this, according to her concepts, is much better for her and her husband than if her husband were to hang out on the side with mistresses or drink alcohol with alcoholic friends in a bar. And if such a woman is stupid and does not understand that such a gambler cannot be helped without a specialist doctor, she begins to swear, quarrel, hide money and do everything that is absolutely forbidden in this case. In this case, she only worsens her husband's problem and in this case, giving her all the money earned by her husband is simply impossible because this will only worsen the overall state of affairs with gambling addiction.
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You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.

Sometimes most women can still have the money on their possession but still choose not to give the money to their husband and not because of their bad intention with the money but because if their husband sees it he will spend it recklessly and sometimes when people heard of such thing they will easily talk about how disrespectful the woman is when they have not even heard from her side of the story why she did that, so actually just like you are saying some men can be very careless in gambling, so most responsible wife take all their money if she has access to it so that it could reduce his gambling mentality but although sometimes most women will take advantage of the opportunity instead of keeping such money save they will use it to buy expensive things like jewelries or other things and when their husband ask them they will denied it.
Women would really be that different to each other on which there would really be those who are really that mindful about expenses and would really be trying out to save for the future specially if they do have kids
then it would really be that more intended for that kind of use and there are those who are really that mindful on spending on beauty products or whatever that it is really that connected to luxury stuffs and beautification.
Actually no one is really that perfect when it comes to this manner on which there would really be those wants on which we do really like to attain or to have.


Going back into the topic about self exclusion then i do really seldom see sites or platforms that do really offer exclusions or have the feature on which you could request for you to get blocked or locked your gambling
account on which we know that these businesses would really be that preferring into those gamblers who do really spend out like there's no tomorrow on which they do know that this is really that their advantage.
You wont really be needing up any exclusions because you would really be just that needing yourself to be thinking up well whether the things you've been dealing is already that something good or bad into you or not.
It would be impossible that you couldnt be able to distinguish in between two things.
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Self exclusion is possible but i also don't think it could be a lasting solution here, because there are other things we must have in consideration that may be things to draw us back to gambling despite after being excluded, this tells more on how the exclusion could maybe work on a temporal benefits and how we should be able to further look into more advanced measures in which when taken, could help us achieve as we have always wanted.
I have had this kind of experience many times when I tried to stay away from gambling from staying out of phone that can access the Internet. I tried this method for few days and it doesn't work for too long. Gambling is like a spirit especially when you are addicted to it.
It is very difficult for you to understand what it's meant and how you can stay aways from gambling.
Discipline is the most important attitude we need to portray as gamblers because without it, we can keep staying away from gambling but it's not going to last. It better we are disciplined and focused rather than trying to deceive ourselves.
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You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.

Sometimes most women can still have the money on their possession but still choose not to give the money to their husband and not because of their bad intention with the money but because if their husband sees it he will spend it recklessly and sometimes when people heard of such thing they will easily talk about how disrespectful the woman is when they have not even heard from her side of the story why she did that, so actually just like you are saying some men can be very careless in gambling, so most responsible wife take all their money if she has access to it so that it could reduce his gambling mentality but although sometimes most women will take advantage of the opportunity instead of keeping such money save they will use it to buy expensive things like jewelries or other things and when their husband ask them they will denied it.
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Self exclusion is possible but i also don't think it could be a lasting solution here, because there are other things we must have in consideration that may be things to draw us back to gambling despite after being excluded, this tells more on how the exclusion could maybe work on a temporal benefits and how we should be able to further look into more advanced measures in which when taken, could help us achieve as we have always wanted.
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Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
In my opinion, you can't just give your money to any wife so that she can manage it. It may well be that she herself will start spending it on complete nonsense like unnecessary items of clothing or stupid jewelry. And besides, the effectiveness of the method of giving the player's money to his wife works only if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction. Otherwise, he will still find money for his game. And if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction, then he himself can regulate his gaming history. So it turns out that the method "give all the money to the wife" is not very effective. However, it leads the player to serious dependence on the wife. And the wife can be very greedy and generally a nasty woman. It's up to each person's luck.
You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.
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Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
In my opinion, you can't just give your money to any wife so that she can manage it. It may well be that she herself will start spending it on complete nonsense like unnecessary items of clothing or stupid jewelry. And besides, the effectiveness of the method of giving the player's money to his wife works only if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction. Otherwise, he will still find money for his game. And if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction, then he himself can regulate his gaming history. So it turns out that the method "give all the money to the wife" is not very effective. However, it leads the player to serious dependence on the wife. And the wife can be very greedy and generally a nasty woman. It's up to each person's luck.
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