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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.

If one deposits his money with his wife, he may not get much financial support for gambling because if he takes money from his wife, he must be accountable for the sector in which he spends that money. and we all believe that everyone's wife is more financially conscious than them. so it can be a good way to protect gambling. But if you want to gamble and you can't quit then by all means you can. so first of all you have to be aware of yourself otherwise it is not possible to stay away from gambling
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.
I like this, it shows you face the reality. What most of these exercises are achieving is to restrain the gambler but not cure gambling, so it will never work unless the gambler is not truly addicted. Addicted gamblers will always look for alternative ways to gamble and I've debunked the claim once on this thread that giving your wife your credit card will not solve anything even though some people agreed that giving the wife such cards will fix the addict 100%, who careless is that?

Gambling addiction is powerful, it is psychology and will always infest the gambler unless a psychological approach is used to tackle it. This psychological curing approach will even entail giving the gambler choices and giving him access to gambling unhindered. If it works, he will naturally forbid gambling even if he has access to it and the whole world's money in his bank account. That's true healing.
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Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
In my opinion, you can't just give your money to any wife so that she can manage it. It may well be that she herself will start spending it on complete nonsense like unnecessary items of clothing or stupid jewelry. And besides, the effectiveness of the method of giving the player's money to his wife works only if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction. Otherwise, he will still find money for his game. And if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction, then he himself can regulate his gaming history. So it turns out that the method "give all the money to the wife" is not very effective. However, it leads the player to serious dependence on the wife. And the wife can be very greedy and generally a nasty woman. It's up to each person's luck.
You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.
Often, many wives do not even realize that their husband, a gambler, has already reached the stage of addiction to gambling. They think that this is just a man's way of having fun and nothing more. And this, according to her concepts, is much better for her and her husband than if her husband were to hang out on the side with mistresses or drink alcohol with alcoholic friends in a bar. And if such a woman is stupid and does not understand that such a gambler cannot be helped without a specialist doctor, she begins to swear, quarrel, hide money and do everything that is absolutely forbidden in this case. In this case, she only worsens her husband's problem and in this case, giving her all the money earned by her husband is simply impossible because this will only worsen the overall state of affairs with gambling addiction.
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You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.

Sometimes most women can still have the money on their possession but still choose not to give the money to their husband and not because of their bad intention with the money but because if their husband sees it he will spend it recklessly and sometimes when people heard of such thing they will easily talk about how disrespectful the woman is when they have not even heard from her side of the story why she did that, so actually just like you are saying some men can be very careless in gambling, so most responsible wife take all their money if she has access to it so that it could reduce his gambling mentality but although sometimes most women will take advantage of the opportunity instead of keeping such money save they will use it to buy expensive things like jewelries or other things and when their husband ask them they will denied it.
Women would really be that different to each other on which there would really be those who are really that mindful about expenses and would really be trying out to save for the future specially if they do have kids
then it would really be that more intended for that kind of use and there are those who are really that mindful on spending on beauty products or whatever that it is really that connected to luxury stuffs and beautification.
Actually no one is really that perfect when it comes to this manner on which there would really be those wants on which we do really like to attain or to have.


Going back into the topic about self exclusion then i do really seldom see sites or platforms that do really offer exclusions or have the feature on which you could request for you to get blocked or locked your gambling
account on which we know that these businesses would really be that preferring into those gamblers who do really spend out like there's no tomorrow on which they do know that this is really that their advantage.
You wont really be needing up any exclusions because you would really be just that needing yourself to be thinking up well whether the things you've been dealing is already that something good or bad into you or not.
It would be impossible that you couldnt be able to distinguish in between two things.
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Self exclusion is possible but i also don't think it could be a lasting solution here, because there are other things we must have in consideration that may be things to draw us back to gambling despite after being excluded, this tells more on how the exclusion could maybe work on a temporal benefits and how we should be able to further look into more advanced measures in which when taken, could help us achieve as we have always wanted.
I have had this kind of experience many times when I tried to stay away from gambling from staying out of phone that can access the Internet. I tried this method for few days and it doesn't work for too long. Gambling is like a spirit especially when you are addicted to it.
It is very difficult for you to understand what it's meant and how you can stay aways from gambling.
Discipline is the most important attitude we need to portray as gamblers because without it, we can keep staying away from gambling but it's not going to last. It better we are disciplined and focused rather than trying to deceive ourselves.
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You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.

Sometimes most women can still have the money on their possession but still choose not to give the money to their husband and not because of their bad intention with the money but because if their husband sees it he will spend it recklessly and sometimes when people heard of such thing they will easily talk about how disrespectful the woman is when they have not even heard from her side of the story why she did that, so actually just like you are saying some men can be very careless in gambling, so most responsible wife take all their money if she has access to it so that it could reduce his gambling mentality but although sometimes most women will take advantage of the opportunity instead of keeping such money save they will use it to buy expensive things like jewelries or other things and when their husband ask them they will denied it.
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Self exclusion is possible but i also don't think it could be a lasting solution here, because there are other things we must have in consideration that may be things to draw us back to gambling despite after being excluded, this tells more on how the exclusion could maybe work on a temporal benefits and how we should be able to further look into more advanced measures in which when taken, could help us achieve as we have always wanted.
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Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
In my opinion, you can't just give your money to any wife so that she can manage it. It may well be that she herself will start spending it on complete nonsense like unnecessary items of clothing or stupid jewelry. And besides, the effectiveness of the method of giving the player's money to his wife works only if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction. Otherwise, he will still find money for his game. And if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction, then he himself can regulate his gaming history. So it turns out that the method "give all the money to the wife" is not very effective. However, it leads the player to serious dependence on the wife. And the wife can be very greedy and generally a nasty woman. It's up to each person's luck.
You could be right but I still believed that there are faithful women who is always submissive to their husbands irrespective of anything they wouldn't touch that money, but though there are some women who are too flashy with things just as you said can either spend them in an unnecessary things where they would start having problems at home for spending up that money without even their husbands permission.

Most times it happens when they noticed that their husbands are not responsible or as a result of addiction, because out of 99% gamblers who are one way or the other addicted today their wives are solely aware because they lived in same house and same room, therefore their wife must be aware of their husbands new development.
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Like gambler, who has given all the money to his wife or someone who will manage finances, always finds money for gambling, the same a person who has self excluded from one or many gambling sites, will always find a way to gamble online. In addition nothing stops him from gambling offline. I dont see self exclusion as a kind of a solution against addictive gambling. It is only a way to make a pause between gambling sessions, if a person isnt able to make a pause without help.
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Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
In my opinion, you can't just give your money to any wife so that she can manage it. It may well be that she herself will start spending it on complete nonsense like unnecessary items of clothing or stupid jewelry. And besides, the effectiveness of the method of giving the player's money to his wife works only if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction. Otherwise, he will still find money for his game. And if the player is not in the stage of gambling addiction, then he himself can regulate his gaming history. So it turns out that the method "give all the money to the wife" is not very effective. However, it leads the player to serious dependence on the wife. And the wife can be very greedy and generally a nasty woman. It's up to each person's luck.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
Once the urge to gamble is there, we could always look for other ways to gamble even though it will require us to meet families and friends to get funds from them and use it to satisfy our hunger for gambling. The method of giving the woman of the House the fund to hold so that we can't ask her for it to be use for gambling is just simple but when it comes to a addicted gambler, I don't think this will actually works. We all have our weak point and strong points as gamblers and it would not be nice if we are tempted at the weakest point.
Gambling addicts is really a disease because lot of people can deployed a policy and not stood by it to the last point because they might feel that there is something very important they were missing if they don't gamble. Giving a woman of the house money to hold doesn't also mean we can't request for the fund from from them as we can easily cook some lies to have the money back, except the money has been already been used by wife otherwise as a gambler they can easily ran back to their for emergencies when the urge comes to them to satisfy their gambling addiction.
You are one of a few who see this clearly and I was so surprised that many people supported this approach and even painted it as if it is foolproof, can you imagine? An approach like this might be a further step to build up restraint but certainly not discipline. If his case is beyond the beginning addictions, he needs more than that because his mind will feel as if something is missing and it is until he gambles again that he can be fine.

I don't see how convenient and effective it would be for a man to give his wife his credit card, this is not all his channels of withdrawing money, and even if all channels of money withdrawal were given to her, don't you think this guy has family members and friend to reach out to for money?

His colleagues at work and neighbours are also there to help financially. He can pretend the money request for something, and judging by his good status, I am sure that no one will deny him help, he will then gamble again. What has that solved?
Nothing has changed and it has remained the same, some people giving wife money is not a guaranteed way to reduce anything from them and if they want to gamble they can do it, most times people went ahead taking loan to satisfy their gambling desire without even knowing that would be the worse.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
Once the urge to gamble is there, we could always look for other ways to gamble even though it will require us to meet families and friends to get funds from them and use it to satisfy our hunger for gambling. The method of giving the woman of the House the fund to hold so that we can't ask her for it to be use for gambling is just simple but when it comes to a addicted gambler, I don't think this will actually works. We all have our weak point and strong points as gamblers and it would not be nice if we are tempted at the weakest point.
Gambling addicts is really a disease because lot of people can deployed a policy and not stood by it to the last point because they might feel that there is something very important they were missing if they don't gamble. Giving a woman of the house money to hold doesn't also mean we can't request for the fund from from them as we can easily cook some lies to have the money back, except the money has been already been used by wife otherwise as a gambler they can easily ran back to their for emergencies when the urge comes to them to satisfy their gambling addiction.
You are one of a few who see this clearly and I was so surprised that many people supported this approach and even painted it as if it is foolproof, can you imagine? An approach like this might be a further step to build up restraint but certainly not discipline. If his case is beyond the beginning addictions, he needs more than that because his mind will feel as if something is missing and it is until he gambles again that he can be fine.

I don't see how convenient and effective it would be for a man to give his wife his credit card, this is not all his channels of withdrawing money, and even if all channels of money withdrawal were given to her, don't you think this guy has family members and friend to reach out to for money?

His colleagues at work and neighbours are also there to help financially. He can pretend the money request for something, and judging by his good status, I am sure that no one will deny him help, he will then gamble again. What has that solved?
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Oh my God, this is crazy and it's the best way to self exclude yourself from online gambling platforms. This method is going to work 100% and very effective , although it's limited to those that are married and have a good wife that would be able to to do caution us by not allowing us to go back to gambling. This can be effect if you are disciplined although you can still meet friends to lend you money that can be used to bet which is why it's better we are disciplined as a gamler trying our best to make sure we resist the urge.

Yes and this is not only for gambling but also to other areas in which man spend extravagantly. But not all the woman can do that because some women would used that opportunity to spend the money anyhow. But when you married a good financial economical woman then you are saved from many things.
And whenever you asked her money she will like to know the particular thing the money is about to be used. So sometimes to go and asked her money will not be interested again. That is a good self exclusion from gambling and other irrelevant things in the world.

Don't doubt your woman, if you don't trust her then it's best you don't love or marry her. Besides, you don't need to have a financially sound wife to be able to do that, you just need to make sure that your wife is faithful and spends all her time taking care of the family, then she will be able to save you from many troubles in life.

This is also a viable method to help us quit gambling addiction but it will not be completely effective if we cannot control ourselves. Because borrowing money is not so difficult in today's age. Not only from friends, relatives...but there are also many black credit organizations operating and they will easily lend you money if they know your family well. Therefore, self-control is still the most important thing before we need the help of others in life.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
Once the urge to gamble is there, we could always look for other ways to gamble even though it will require us to meet families and friends to get funds from them and use it to satisfy our hunger for gambling. The method of giving the woman of the House the fund to hold so that we can't ask her for it to be use for gambling is just simple but when it comes to a addicted gambler, I don't think this will actually works. We all have our weak point and strong points as gamblers and it would not be nice if we are tempted at the weakest point.
Well, I think the strategy can really work, it only will require a really strong woman depending on how deeply addicted the gambler is.
The only thing you would say and I will agree with you is that, no gambler that is heavily addicted to gambling will want to (on his own) block himself free access to funds that he can use for gambling., a gambler who know his wife will be against him gambling will do all he can to keep his gambling lifestyle aware from his wife.

And I agree with that an addicted gambler will do anything to get fund to gamble, even if and when it has to do with borrowing from friends and or family.. But I want to ask a simple question, what if an addicted gambler who have ran out of funds tries all he can to raise fund to use for gambling, and he finds none, what will he do, is it possible for him to go and steal?
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like

Actually, that is a very good explanation why so many married people keep their gambling activities in secret, specially women. They know their partner could react negatively to that "hobby" of them and further restrain the economical freedom they have, so they choose not to talk about it with their partners, not matter how much money they lose to the casinos and bookies.
Though, if one recognizes one has a problem with impulse gambling and needs to get some kind of help to control finances, then relying one's purchasing power to some family member could be a good option, the problem would be to find someone one trusts that much, in my opinion.
I believe I would only trust money to my parents, not even sure I would do the same about a spouse....
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
Once the urge to gamble is there, we could always look for other ways to gamble even though it will require us to meet families and friends to get funds from them and use it to satisfy our hunger for gambling. The method of giving the woman of the House the fund to hold so that we can't ask her for it to be use for gambling is just simple but when it comes to a addicted gambler, I don't think this will actually works. We all have our weak point and strong points as gamblers and it would not be nice if we are tempted at the weakest point.
Gambling addicts is really a disease because lot of people can deployed a policy and not stood by it to the last point because they might feel that there is something very important they were missing if they don't gamble. Giving a woman of the house money to hold doesn't also mean we can't request for the fund from from them as we can easily cook some lies to have the money back, except the money has been already been used by wife otherwise as a gambler they can easily ran back to their for emergencies when the urge comes to them to satisfy their gambling addiction.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
Once the urge to gamble is there, we could always look for other ways to gamble even though it will require us to meet families and friends to get funds from them and use it to satisfy our hunger for gambling. The method of giving the woman of the House the fund to hold so that we can't ask her for it to be use for gambling is just simple but when it comes to a addicted gambler, I don't think this will actually works. We all have our weak point and strong points as gamblers and it would not be nice if we are tempted at the weakest point.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
It might be that effective but this is something that would really be that out of my preference on having this kind of life on which you do really feels like that you've been holding up into your neck
specially on your finances. If you do find out on having that kind of gambling addiction then it wont really be necessary on giving all the control but if this one turned out to be temporary and your wife agrees into it
then it could work but the shit thing on here is that if your wife would be getting used to it then you would definitely suffer or just like on what been said that your freedom would really be that affected
by this one. Self exclusions feature is actually that pretty useless on someone who is really that addicted to gambling because on the moment that you do get addicted then you would really be finding up ways
for you to play no matter what. This is one of the main problems on the moment that gambling addiction would shacked you out.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
As much as I agree that that idea which TopTort777 came up with is a very good one, and one that will work effectively, let me also say that its an option which several men will not take because of its disadvantages, and one of the disadvantages is this one you have mentioned, lack of freedom.

But in general though, this also can only work if the wife of the man is a good woman. Not every wife actually care about the welfare of her husband and her immediate family, we still have alot of street girls who luckily ended up as a wife to a man, such girls can hardly know or understand what it takes to help a husband who is in such a situation as an addict to gambling.

But over all, like I've said before, and even in my past comments on this subject, the idea is a very good one regardless.
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I know a method that will work for 100% if we talk about exclusion from casino and money management. Just give your card and bank accounts passwords to your wife Cheesy She will easily exclude you from casinos, fishing stores, golf or any other hobby. The greedy the wife, the more effective this method will be. I am not joking. If you want to return to school era and have lunch money only, then let wife manage finances.
Yes right bro. this can be a good effective method because everyone's wife always wants to save money and does not want to spend money in bad places. If he himself is not addicted to them. So I agree with you that if anyone uses this technique it will work well. But it also has a negative site which is that your freedom will decrease. Because you have to apologize to your wife for spending your money at that time. Which you may not like
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