Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 7. (Read 6573 times)

The casinos should then have that option, where clearly the addict's funds are deposited in their entire account so that they are free from many evils, so if they do it this way the casino looks good and supporting a noble cause, although it must be Be careful, of course, when a person becomes addicted it is not the casino's fault, it is that same person's fault for not Knowing how to control themselves, so that is something that should be the responsibility of the person in question, if addiction is a problem of that type . Large casinos by law should have their Support mechanisms and that mechanism helps them continue doing things well.

If it is a lie, then that is already on your conscience, I think that self-exclusion in general for me is one of the things to admire about people who decide to do it, it is not easy, and it is a worthy example for many. In the event that addicted people decide not to play anymore, that is a great thing and I support them, but if they are tempted to do acts like this where they cannot control themselves, that is another thing. I had also thought that casinos should incorporate a section where For addicts and people who have overcome addiction where the casino itself imposes limits on betting, and that it be a contract where the affected person accepts it, I think it would be a good option, but self-exclusion as such is something I consider very necessary unless it is discussed.

It is possible that i`m just far away from offline gambling and in online it is difficult enough to get some information about their problems or hobbies. So there are just two men with gambling problems who i know in real life. May be if i`ll become visit offline casinos, i`ll see more such addicts, but i don`t want it.

About the first man. If i can believe him, he stopped only when lost his wife. Before it nothing could stop him. I know that several his friends include me talked with him about his problems with gambling, but it wasn`t interesting for him. And even when he divorced - he understood it later, about several weeks. Only after it he rebooted his life. I told it to show that it is difficult to help someone, who don`t see the problem. He need to get some sign to undestand it.

You are right in some parts, self exclusion is not a trap at all just as you have said, it's only a trap for those who choose to see and believe it is.

But on the other hand, I personally do not believe that self exclusion can help a hard core gambler who is deeply addicted to gambling to stop or come out from his addiction, reason being that, there are alot of casinos, hundreds of thousands of them, and self exclusion only works on the casino where it is requested and applied, so, it's not like if you ask to be self excluded from any casino, when the request is honored, it will take effect on every other single casinos around, if this was how self exclusion was built to work, then it would have been very effective in helping addicted gamblers come out from their addiction, since once they ask to be self excluded, they won't have access to any online casino in the world.

But with the current setting, one can self exclude him or herself from one casino, then go ahead to sign up on another casino to continue gambling.

Self exclusion is a joke or not depends on which point of view we see. In general, self exclusion feature in casino is a tool provided by the casino as part to help gamblers to manage their gambling habits. It can be used as a start for a gambler to stop addiction but the next process will always depending on the gamblers themselves. I will not say it is a trap, it is a trap for those who cant deal with their own addiction who will always try to find other parties to be blamed.

this is their business to make money , spending is what made their sites running and that is how they make the casino grow each day .
it is actually a lie believing casino claim to be concerning about their players future and activities because all they wanted is their money same as what the gamblers wanted from the site.
we have seen how many claims that this self exclusion is just a joke that it does not work how it says to be because the truth is that is just a trap for you to believe there is a way out but no, there isn't.

I understand. There are some countries where some lines of work are scarce, but yet, in the most urban part of the country, I am sure that such service could still be easily found, only that the cost might not be comfortable. This is the main reason that the establishments relating to therapy and psychology are not so much booming in developing and third-world countries.

That said, I like to say that you might not be exposed to some facts of gambling issues compared to others, it all depends on the environment you are in and the kind of circle you keep. I am happy that you could still cite two examples, but I am sure that it will be worse elsewhere in the same country if you inquire about this. In as much as gambling is predominant in that country, you will always see the good, bad and ugly gamblers no matter what, and if you are not connected so well to some localities and personalities, you may never know.

Besides, I am still curious about the first example you gave here, are you saying the guy later got healed and stayed away from gambling or what? And could it be because he divorced his wife? I don't really get the gist, bro.

In my country it is difficult enough to find a psychologist, but there is no serious problem with gamblers. May be we have enough other problems, to take care about gamblers, i don`t know. But I saw just two men who had problems with gambling. I know about the first of them - he lost all his money, divorced his wife, but began new life and(as i know) he is far from any type of casino. About the second I can say nothing - I`ve seen him about 6 years last time.
But i`m sure that it is only gamblers problem and he has to change his brains to understand that something is going wrong. Any kind of self exclude can`t help him.

I would rather see this as a formality on trying out to make themselves that they do really care with their gamblers or to those people who do play into their platforms on which they would really be loving on seeing their players to lose more and this is something that will really be just that so common. You as an owner wont really be caring if there would be tons of people would really be messing up their lives on which it would really be something that will really be not your concern as long you do make money then it would be impossible that you would be showing out some sympathy on the conditions that they are into. You are offering something some service and you arent that forcing them and this is the primary thing that comes up into your mind and thats why you wont really be that get affected that much.

Self-control and a clear mind will help someone who gambles not to gamble excessively. He will know the limits he must maintain and will not spend money he cannot afford to gamble with. He will also try to avoid the possibility of gambling addiction by filling his free time with many things.

It all depends on how someone can prevent themselves from gambling excessively. Even though he found it difficult to resist the temptation of gambling, he still tried his best. He knows that staying in control of himself and his thoughts is what can help him stay within his boundaries.

While gambling, he tries to enjoy it. Even though he lost, he tried not to suffer a big defeat. He also always stops himself after he feels he has had enough of his gambling.

Sometimes it is not about psychologist that needed but the addicted gambler itself realizing what
he is doing and what could bring them because if that happened then the family itself is morethan
enough to help them leaving addiction but the problem is WILL THEY CAN accept that?

It's a fact, things are like that , I Personally have always seen that things to generate more money have to be put in context for this type of things in casinos, all casinos always want to have people there spending, some don't like them. It doesn't matter if they are Addicts, what matters to them is that, putting in money and continuing to play and Continuing to lose, but there are casinos that currently have another type of approach to things, or they try to protect themselves with these types of things like self-exclusion and that is something that even if it is pure advertising, because if it helps to reduce it in any way, it is already a fact that advertising has to be Focused on Non-Addiction and that is why I Think all this self-exclusion Arises.

The main issue for most people is that they do point out their fingers on someone whom they would really be able to see upon on the time that they are on losing condition. Seeking for exclusions features or whatsoever without even trying to look at on themselves about being addicted or making those shit decisions towards their gambling activity. Self exclusions kind of feature isnt something that you could be able to see on a gambling site. If you are really that tending to completely stop in gambling then you wont really be needing any of those things but rather completely stop on you own.
This is really just that an option if ever its available but majority of these platforms doesnt have that kind of offering or feature because they do always love on having those addicted gamblers
because this is where they could make easy money or revenue.

Absolutely mate mind control is one of the best thing in gambling cause if we don't have it we become addicted. And we are all know what are the possible outcome of being addicted. How hard it is, cause being an addict is not easy it's hard to control themselves in betting cause they are betting and bet if they have money. And even don't have money  still the addict will make a way to have in order to bet and one if the best example is stealing some things in thier home and sell it then go to the casino.

What we are really looking for is that things improve and can be done so that they can be cured, the drinks that are given in the casinos are very nice but they are not intended to cure, to cure a person with addiction they must have other types of treatments I have said that when you want to be cured, you have to take treatments with psychologists and psychiatrists, and you have to take advantage of it in every way to cure yourself. Some experiences never end , which is why self-exclusion , which for me is worthy of Respect, That's why you always have to take advantage of opportunities.

Hahaha...I think you are making a whole lot of mistakes here bro, this style can never work, it may restrict those who are not truly addicted, but for those who are surely addicted, it takes far more than a restrictive means to cure them. Addiction is a plague and it rather needs cure than restriction, but unfortunately, the option suggested here can only restrict, it can't cure. Now imagine, you want to stop a weed from growing in your backyard but instead of removing it from the root, you are cutting it, do you think it can last? Never, it will grow back, it's only a matter of time. This is how I see it, and when the 21 days lapses and the gambers is pressing and yearning for gambling again with a higher desire, what will he do?

Even at the time the gambler keeps the money through this style, do you think any other availabe money will still not be used for gambling? This is why I see this style as a mere way of investing, nothing more and there are also alternatives to it where one will keep the money for a while by indirectly locking it somewhere to yield for them, so it is nothing near a solution to addiction for any reason whatsoever. And since addiction is psychological, I strongly advise anyone seeking healing from to go psychological. And if the self-help is not working, such a person should speak out and seek external or professional help.

Very well said bud, it's absolutely inhumanity to fellow man if any casino decide to be making profit out of a players addiction to gambling, this is something that is highly discouraged, and a good reason why all available reputable casinos take the issue of responsible gambling very seriously.
From what I've seen, I would actually say that majorly all registered and licensed casinos have it as a matter of importance, the self exclusion feature, which is what users uses to ban themselve from the casino when they notice they can't go a day without visiting the casino and spending money on bets, most times, money they never intended betting with.

But personally, I am still of the opinion that the self exclusion feature is still little to no relevance when it comes to responsible gambling, this is due to the fact that for some casino, it's still possible for a gambler to come back and register on the casino again after having self excluded him or her self.

As far as I know, casinos are businesses engaged in gambling or betting where many people bet there for two possibilities at the end of the session, namely winning or losing, and the purpose of all businesses is to make a profit, so I don't believe that casinos will really close someone's account when they detect that there are signs of addiction from the gambler by seeing the number of deposits that are more frequent than other gamblers.

For me and what I believe is that as gamblers get more addicted, casinos will be happier because they will get more profit when gamblers lose control and deposit more money. And another piece of evidence is that I think we've seen so many gamblers who end up going bankrupt and losing everything they own that if casinos really locked the accounts of every gambler who was detected to have signs of addiction, then obviously the bankruptcy would never have happened.

I'm not sure if 21 days are enough if you have an addiction though. Some reports suggest that any addiction affects the brain to a similar degree, although there is a clear difference between gambling addicts and other forms of addiction[1]. Not to mention any gambling-like mechanism like gacha game can stimulate our brain just like when we gamble with money in a casino. That being said, we need some time to cool off from any addictive behavior and spend more time on physical activity or social activity to enhance our prefrontal cortex connection so we won't get impulsive to seek dopamine as soon as possible[2]. CMIIW.

[1] https://www.apa.org/monitor/2023/07/how-gambling-affects-the-brain
[2] https://www.gatewayfoundation.org/addiction-blog/how-gambling-affects-brain/

But there are lot of things can happen in that 21 days period mate , yeah you might be right about the problem is just delaying but sometimes we only need some time to recover or understand what lies in our gambling addiction , in21 days we may remember what kind of person we are and what will be the best move to change it back now , because addiction in gambling is just about mind thinking not like in other vices like drugs,smoke,and liquor that it is our internal that seek for this , but in gambling mind control is what we only need .