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Definitely and this is why this kind of feature is somewhat not that needed and this is why majority of platforms arent really putting or something this one isnt really that available but just like been said that it might be absent but you could actually be able to make out some kind of request from the team or admin itself about exclusion but of course you wont really be needing it as if you do really tend to stop completely then you could really actually be able to do it on your own without having those kind of assistance on which we know that this is something that not that relevant.
If you do want to quit then you would quit but if not then you would really be keeps on coming back as long your mind is really that fixated towards gambling then there's no way
that you would really be stopping.

Think like a warrior and that you want to beat the casino, so would you ask them for them, that's kinda insulting. It's just me though, I feel like I'm not a real man if a casino offers me to self exclude because they feel I am addicted to gambling, no... what I would do, I have money to gamble, if I lose everything I just say I'll give you and you win, that's how a man think and when gambling, we need to be a man.

Self exclude is fine, but like I mentioned, we don't need them if we are a man.
Well you do got a point and i would really be having on the same feelings too on which on the time that you would really be finding yourself on playing gambling and having that kind of acceptance already on losing those particular amounts then pretty sure that you are really that wary with that you've been spending up money. Exclusions are the last resort if you do find  yourself that cant be stopped on playing gambling but of course addicted gamblers wont really be accepting such condition and would really be having that denial on which this is something that is really that common.
Exclusions arent that available everywhere on which it would really be that wise that you should really be playing for fun in the first place so that you wont really be finding yourself
finding up these kind of features. lol
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For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.


This is one very important idea to even prevent compulsive gambling attitudes. I if a gambler has a very bad attitude or lifestyle that they are living because of gambling and they are at the point where they can no longer control their money for good utilization except they put everything in gambling and loss it at once, they can practice this lock staking investment and it will help them not to have access to the money and they will not gamble so compulsively again. I love the idea but I don't like atomic wallet, so people said it is not too safe to use.
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Definitely and this is why this kind of feature is somewhat not that needed and this is why majority of platforms arent really putting or something this one isnt really that available but just like been said that it might be absent but you could actually be able to make out some kind of request from the team or admin itself about exclusion but of course you wont really be needing it as if you do really tend to stop completely then you could really actually be able to do it on your own without having those kind of assistance on which we know that this is something that not that relevant.
If you do want to quit then you would quit but if not then you would really be keeps on coming back as long your mind is really that fixated towards gambling then there's no way that you would really be stopping.
Such a feature will not stop people who often gamble without restrictions because they will keep gambling again. But for those who think they might lose control, this feature can help. But they must really be able to prevent themselves from returning to gambling for some time.

The self-exclusion feature is sometimes needed by some gamblers who find it difficult to stop themselves from gambling. For this reason, casinos provide this feature so that gamblers can gamble within limits and can enjoy gambling comfortably. But casinos also hope that there will be gamblers who cannot control themselves so that these gamblers will keep returning to the casino to gamble.

We should pay attention to ourselves so we don't experience any problems in gambling. If we can take care of ourselves well, we won't need these features. The important thing is that we can control ourselves while gambling so that we don't gamble excessively.
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Definitely and this is why this kind of feature is somewhat not that needed and this is why majority of platforms arent really putting or something this one isnt really that available but just like been said that it might be absent but you could actually be able to make out some kind of request from the team or admin itself about exclusion but of course you wont really be needing it as if you do really tend to stop completely then you could really actually be able to do it on your own without having those kind of assistance on which we know that this is something that not that relevant.
If you do want to quit then you would quit but if not then you would really be keeps on coming back as long your mind is really that fixated towards gambling then there's no way
that you would really be stopping.

Think like a warrior and that you want to beat the casino, so would you ask them for them, that's kinda insulting. It's just me though, I feel like I'm not a real man if a casino offers me to self exclude because they feel I am addicted to gambling, no... what I would do, I have money to gamble, if I lose everything I just say I'll give you and you win, that's how a man think and when gambling, we need to be a man.

Self exclude is fine, but like I mentioned, we don't need them if we are a man.
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If we are convinced right from our mind that we cannot do or achieve something, then there is no amount of words and encouragement that can make such happened expect we are changed from the initial perspective we have towards that same thing, in gambling, we can go for what we want, there is freedom of making selection, but many choose the way they appear all because they lack in some information's required for them to know and go through, while such could have been helpful in their gambling.
I consider that it is not misleading here, the purpose of the thread is to show that self-exclusion from a casino is for people who are true heroes, who say no to avoid falling back into Addiction, because the majority of people who exclude themselves from the casino is to not have to live that bad experience again, so one of the ways they have is that, I think it is a very radical response but it can be very difficult for some to reach that decision , so in view of what it can become to live they prefer to exclude themselves than to try to play and know that they will fall into addiction again, what happens is that people do not have to see it from the bad point of view, but because it is telling the stories that some have experienced in order to give themselves Keep in mind that if it is possible to do it and that it is an option, the rest, if they want to see it badly, is their affair.
I thought heroes are the ones who did a good deed to others? Didn't know that it can also be applied for oneself but even if not, I agree that those addict who volunteer themselves deserve a recognition because it is not easy and they can be a good inspiration to other addicted people. There are still recovered addicts who does the act again but this time in moderation. This takes courage and confidence.

This is also rewarding because we can still enjoy the things that we love without doing a harm anymore to our selves. It's weird if there are people who see exclusion a bad thing but maybe those people are part of the business and they can't earn anymore once people slowly stop availing their service.

What I think about this is that people who do it Aso have much more value, because they are protecting themselves and that has its good value, that is what can be given as a sign that they want things better, I always do. will say something, when we need something good to be done , we simply have to be in control of everything, and that has much more Value than someone who achieves that decision with professional help or something that Forces us to do it, in addition to allowing us to know what it is. The dangers of depending on what is done, Everything can Always be considered in favor of the Player's health, that is only essential.
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It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
Most likely you would really be having that kind of consideration on which on the time that you would really be on the state on which you are that losing money then you would really be having that kind of chase up with those loses and would really be trying out to play even more and this is something that would really be not be able to stop you on playing. Lets say that there would really be that exclusion feature but
this one wont really be enough for you to be able to stop out completely. If there's none then you could really be able to request it out but just been said that as long you arent that making yourself accept those loses then its impossible for you to stop.

In the end it still comes back to the gambler's desire, or the point is that if for example they are unable to refrain from doing things or actions that are not recommended then obviously in the end they will continue gambling and will not care about anything related to self-exclusion. In fact, self-exclusion can be done by yourself without the help of anyone and from any party if you are able to control your gambling activities properly with a note of being able to keep yourself in balance by always prioritizing preventive measures but this mindset will only exist in gamblers who really have a correct understanding of the dangers of gambling activities if done in the wrong way. This means that if they gamble with the intention and purpose of earning then obviously what they want is to continue gambling and chasing big wins, although in common sense chasing something in gambling is always not recommended but for them it doesn't matter to do.
Definitely and this is why this kind of feature is somewhat not that needed and this is why majority of platforms arent really putting or something this one isnt really that available but just like been said that it might be absent but you could actually be able to make out some kind of request from the team or admin itself about exclusion but of course you wont really be needing it as if you do really tend to stop completely then you could really actually be able to do it on your own without having those kind of assistance on which we know that this is something that not that relevant.
If you do want to quit then you would quit but if not then you would really be keeps on coming back as long your mind is really that fixated towards gambling then there's no way
that you would really be stopping.
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It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
Most likely you would really be having that kind of consideration on which on the time that you would really be on the state on which you are that losing money then you would really be having that kind of chase up with those loses and would really be trying out to play even more and this is something that would really be not be able to stop you on playing. Lets say that there would really be that exclusion feature but
this one wont really be enough for you to be able to stop out completely. If there's none then you could really be able to request it out but just been said that as long you arent that making yourself accept those loses then its impossible for you to stop.

In the end it still comes back to the gambler's desire, or the point is that if for example they are unable to refrain from doing things or actions that are not recommended then obviously in the end they will continue gambling and will not care about anything related to self-exclusion. In fact, self-exclusion can be done by yourself without the help of anyone and from any party if you are able to control your gambling activities properly with a note of being able to keep yourself in balance by always prioritizing preventive measures but this mindset will only exist in gamblers who really have a correct understanding of the dangers of gambling activities if done in the wrong way. This means that if they gamble with the intention and purpose of earning then obviously what they want is to continue gambling and chasing big wins, although in common sense chasing something in gambling is always not recommended but for them it doesn't matter to do.
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Dude, I'm just stating reality. Why should we rely on a casino to control our addiction? It's not their job; their job is to entertain us, and we pay to play. This is very simple; it doesn't require a lot of explanation for a mature mind to understand the risks of gambling.

When you sign up at a casino, you are asked if you are 18+ and probably some casinos explain the risks. Once you "agree" to all the terms, that means you understand the rules and the risks of gambling. So, if you lose, the casino wouldn't tell you to stop because they think that, since you are mature enough and you understand the risks, they presume that you are gambling responsibly. However, the words "gambling responsibility" is not measured based on the amount of money you risk and lose as every gambler have different financial status in life.

Let's wake up, we are in a dangerous world. Yes, a casino may have a self-exclusion feature, but it still depends on how we will use it because, as mentioned, one can easily create an account at another casino to continue their gambling addiction.

In short, if you have a gambling addiction, don't expect the casino to help you. It's only you or the people who truly care for you who could help.
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However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
You seem to be mixing things up here, and if a gambler is not addicted because of the fun, then it must be for the money, so the money is still the problem of the gamblers. Also, you might have misinterpreted what @khaled0111 said there and I think you guys are still saying the same thing after all in the rest. Self-exclusion is just a way to restrict oneself, but not a way to cure gambling addiction. Just like you said, if he self-excluded himself but moved to another casino platform to play, is the issue still not persisting? That is why he said he doesn't think it can work just like you as the gambler may still find more money (even if he followed the style of the main OP) to still continue to gamble.

These are good points and I am certain that since gambling-related issues are psychological, psychological approaches should be used to tackle them as well. Self-deprivation like exclusion and locking out funds may only limit but will never cure the issue.

The main point of my statement is that self-exclusion that is a feature of few casinos out there seemed to be like a negative feature as a gambler could just easily choose to gamble to other casinos once he lock his account and realized the urge is still there. Casinos should only offers more games, and more bonuses that will attract more gamblers and satisfy them, they should not think of any feature that is related or could prevent gambling addiction as their main business is to serve people hence it's already expected that once a gambler opted in, they already understand what responsible gambling is.

If a gambler gets addicted, it's not anymore the business of a casino since it should be taken cared of outside casinos. Remember that casino is a business, their main goal is to generate revenue and will only happen if they could retain loyal gamblers and attract new. Self exclusion is discouraging gamblers to gambler, that will hurt the casino's revenue.
You still repeated the same statement, and at this point, I do not know whose side you are. Is it the casino/business side or the humanitarian side? If you are a concerned person, you will always choose the healed world/humanitarian first over anything else including the business. You are looking at the core goal of casinos and the relationship with the customers, but overlooking the damage it can cause to some people who could be a victim of it. Fine, gambling is an adult activity and people, including the government and casinos expect it to be played by mature and well-prepared people. I have also preached that many times. But at the same time, we are all humans, we can't be wise/smart or think the same way and even some younger people may be more mature in handling themselves and things of life better than some older ones.

Look around you, are people the same? It is not everybody that is smart or can think for themselves or control/restrain themselves in some situations. This is why some external restrictive features like self-exclusion were put in place instead for some gamblers to be wasting their lives and fortunes away due to addiction which they can't control. Do you think that these addicted gamblers would want it for themselves if they were with their senses or able to correct the issue? This is why that feature is important, but the only issue is that it is not so effective, nevertheless, it has helped some people for real.

Now, effective or not, advocating its abolishment is not humane, it shows you do not care about anybody, that's what I was telling you, it's wrong. Who cares about more bonuses and offerings when a life is wasting off due to addiction? The self-exclusion feature is still an effort to help even as the addicts continue to find other lasting solutions to their problems.
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However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
You seem to be mixing things up here, and if a gambler is not addicted because of the fun, then it must be for the money, so the money is still the problem of the gamblers. Also, you might have misinterpreted what @khaled0111 said there and I think you guys are still saying the same thing after all in the rest. Self-exclusion is just a way to restrict oneself, but not a way to cure gambling addiction. Just like you said, if he self-excluded himself but moved to another casino platform to play, is the issue still not persisting? That is why he said he doesn't think it can work just like you as the gambler may still find more money (even if he followed the style of the main OP) to still continue to gamble.

These are good points and I am certain that since gambling-related issues are psychological, psychological approaches should be used to tackle them as well. Self-deprivation like exclusion and locking out funds may only limit but will never cure the issue.

The main point of my statement is that self-exclusion that is a feature of few casinos out there seemed to be like a negative feature as a gambler could just easily choose to gamble to other casinos once he lock his account and realized the urge is still there. Casinos should only offers more games, and more bonuses that will attract more gamblers and satisfy them, they should not think of any feature that is related or could prevent gambling addiction as their main business is to serve people hence it's already expected that once a gambler opted in, they already understand what responsible gambling is.

If a gambler gets addicted, it's not anymore the business of a casino since it should be taken cared of outside casinos. Remember that casino is a business, their main goal is to generate revenue and will only happen if they could retain loyal gamblers and attract new. Self exclusion is discouraging gamblers to gambler, that will hurt the casino's revenue.
If this is your disposition about the whole thing, then it is cruel. You are not looking at the humanitarian aspect but the game and the businesses therein, but this is selfish in all right thinking and should not be allowed to see the light of the day in a sane world. Well, that's why people are not the same, as you think that way, others think in a positive way that helps humanitarian. Some casinos and sportsbook owners even know the importance of warnings and self-exclusion in gambling, and regardless of the amount they would have gained from the gambler, they will care about the welfare first.

This may not be genuinely common among the owners but some will still place humanitarians above their selfish interests. This is also the reason why we have rules and government, and any risky business is often mandated to have some disclaimers on their website/platform and casinos in sane countries cannot dare to avoid the self-exclusion feature on their platforms. Although the government may not be strict in regulating and enforcing this feature, it is a good one that the casinos have done their part, especially for those who are facing psychological issues that are gambling-related.

So, we're not in a banana republic where casinos will do as they like, they must obey the law of the land even if they do not want to do it as the law balances things between the casinos and the gamblers. Above all, morally, I believe that casinos must feel for the affected and offer help as they can, and not just be as selfish as you want them to be.
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However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
You seem to be mixing things up here, and if a gambler is not addicted because of the fun, then it must be for the money, so the money is still the problem of the gamblers. Also, you might have misinterpreted what @khaled0111 said there and I think you guys are still saying the same thing after all in the rest. Self-exclusion is just a way to restrict oneself, but not a way to cure gambling addiction. Just like you said, if he self-excluded himself but moved to another casino platform to play, is the issue still not persisting? That is why he said he doesn't think it can work just like you as the gambler may still find more money (even if he followed the style of the main OP) to still continue to gamble.

These are good points and I am certain that since gambling-related issues are psychological, psychological approaches should be used to tackle them as well. Self-deprivation like exclusion and locking out funds may only limit but will never cure the issue.

The main point of my statement is that self-exclusion that is a feature of few casinos out there seemed to be like a negative feature as a gambler could just easily choose to gamble to other casinos once he lock his account and realized the urge is still there. Casinos should only offers more games, and more bonuses that will attract more gamblers and satisfy them, they should not think of any feature that is related or could prevent gambling addiction as their main business is to serve people hence it's already expected that once a gambler opted in, they already understand what responsible gambling is.

If a gambler gets addicted, it's not anymore the business of a casino since it should be taken cared of outside casinos. Remember that casino is a business, their main goal is to generate revenue and will only happen if they could retain loyal gamblers and attract new. Self exclusion is discouraging gamblers to gambler, that will hurt the casino's revenue.
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If we are convinced right from our mind that we cannot do or achieve something, then there is no amount of words and encouragement that can make such happened expect we are changed from the initial perspective we have towards that same thing, in gambling, we can go for what we want, there is freedom of making selection, but many choose the way they appear all because they lack in some information's required for them to know and go through, while such could have been helpful in their gambling.
I consider that it is not misleading here, the purpose of the thread is to show that self-exclusion from a casino is for people who are true heroes, who say no to avoid falling back into Addiction, because the majority of people who exclude themselves from the casino is to not have to live that bad experience again, so one of the ways they have is that, I think it is a very radical response but it can be very difficult for some to reach that decision , so in view of what it can become to live they prefer to exclude themselves than to try to play and know that they will fall into addiction again, what happens is that people do not have to see it from the bad point of view, but because it is telling the stories that some have experienced in order to give themselves Keep in mind that if it is possible to do it and that it is an option, the rest, if they want to see it badly, is their affair.
I thought heroes are the ones who did a good deed to others? Didn't know that it can also be applied for oneself but even if not, I agree that those addict who volunteer themselves deserve a recognition because it is not easy and they can be a good inspiration to other addicted people. There are still recovered addicts who does the act again but this time in moderation. This takes courage and confidence.

This is also rewarding because we can still enjoy the things that we love without doing a harm anymore to our selves. It's weird if there are people who see exclusion a bad thing but maybe those people are part of the business and they can't earn anymore once people slowly stop availing their service.
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However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
You seem to be mixing things up here, and if a gambler is not addicted because of the fun, then it must be for the money, so the money is still the problem of the gamblers. Also, you might have misinterpreted what @khaled0111 said there and I think you guys are still saying the same thing after all in the rest. Self-exclusion is just a way to restrict oneself, but not a way to cure gambling addiction. Just like you said, if he self-excluded himself but moved to another casino platform to play, is the issue still not persisting? That is why he said he doesn't think it can work just like you as the gambler may still find more money (even if he followed the style of the main OP) to still continue to gamble.

These are good points and I am certain that since gambling-related issues are psychological, psychological approaches should be used to tackle them as well. Self-deprivation like exclusion and locking out funds may only limit but will never cure the issue.
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However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
Most likely you would really be having that kind of consideration on which on the time that you would really be on the state on which you are that losing money then you would really be having that kind of chase up with those loses and would really be trying out to play even more and this is something that would really be not be able to stop you on playing. Lets say that there would really be that exclusion feature but
this one wont really be enough for you to be able to stop out completely. If there's none then you could really be able to request it out but just been said that as long you arent that making yourself accept those loses then its impossible for you to stop.
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You guys should stop deceiving yourself about this and thereby preaching weakness to people. There are testable working ways to stop addiction and there are addicts that can testify to it. The fact that something is tough to achieve does not mean that it can't be achieved, and the fact that a certain means of cure doesn't work for some certain people doesn't mean it is not the right advice or procedure, people are different, and so how they take thing. There are many factors to be considered here as well, which include the willingness of the gambler in question, the level of the damage already caused and the mind power of the gambler himself.

If we are convinced right from our mind that we cannot do or achieve something, then there is no amount of words and encouragement that can make such happened expect we are changed from the initial perspective we have towards that same thing, in gambling, we can go for what we want, there is freedom of making selection, but many choose the way they appear all because they lack in some information's required for them to know and go through, while such could have been helpful in their gambling.
There's no such thing as impossible if a gambler is really determine to exclude/stop himself from being addicted, remember that you'll never know unless you try. However when a person is not willing, he will find ways to make excuses not because he think it will not work but because he really don't want to stop what he used to.
correct mate that there is no impossible if you are determined and dedicated but for addiction to be taken? first we need to accept the reality that we are addict and we wanted to change our life because if not every attempt will only cause you nothing but failure.


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We are indeed different and have our own reasoning on why we gamble but let's set limit always. Because it's not easy to get away with addiction once you already fall for it.
all people in gambling has their own reasons and control but the problem is that gambling is too addicted that many are falling bad into it.
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I count the accounts that i`m using right now. I never sold my accounts. The accounts i leaved - has no any information except my name and no money. In the operation history it is possible to see in-out transactions and that it were maid using the bank card. That`s all - there is no any information about card, when you remove it from payment methods. If it impossible - i try to delete account.

When i visited this forum first time i thought the same, but some time later i understand, that accounts can be stolen or sold for example. That`s why i try to check any information i get here. There are some members, who i don`t need to check, but it is because i know them for several years and see if they change their languages or interests. I think that it is the first rule - don`t believe information from internet without own research.
Anyway i don`t recommend anybody to buy or sell account. It is mostly rejected by ToS and it is possible to be banned.

Well, we're not different then. I also confirm that I agree with you in your opinion about how to deal with the opinions published on the forum, noting that a new visitor may not have the same awareness as you of the necessity of researching and verifying any information, no matter how reliable its source may appears.

Regarding information on accounts, since the name cannot be changed, when you erase your bank card data, this will not mean that the new user (buyer) can add his own card data that does not match the original registered name. In this case, he will definitely be banned, and if he is unlucky enough, the platform may allow him to deposit before banning him. So, the only premise for selling an account is that someone thinks about defrauding someone, making him believe that he can buy the account and use it. As far as I know, those interested in accounts trading ensure that the accounts are authenticated and may request to purchase payment card data in exchange for completely abandoning its use. In any case, this remains a dangerous adventure for both parties.

In the end, thank you my friend for this interesting conversation.
When i add card i input number, expiration data and CVV code, that`s all. So it isn`t a problem to use new card. It can become a problem, if casino will KYC you. But in this situation they asks ID or some other documents. I was asked to prove that i`m an owner of the card only two times for last three years. But it is details, that can differs between casinos and countries. Anyway selling account is cheating and it would be easier just to delete it.

Thank you, it was interesting discussion.
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However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
It doesn't work like that, self exclusion is when you contact the casino to make your account off from gambling. It's not about when you lose money and you find a way to make money again to gamble, but when you get yourself self excluded in a casino, you can easily betray yourself because you'll just have to find a new gambling site that will cater you.

Money is not a problem for gamblers, unless broke. This self-exclusion actually is just like fooling ourselves because its real purpose is not realized, that's from my personal point of view.
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the purpose of the thread is to show that self-exclusion from a casino is for people who are true heroes, who say no to avoid falling back into Addiction
This made me go and re-read the topic again in cas I missed something. I believe this topic is, unlike you said, directed to those who can not control themselves and need a way to prevent them from gambling even if they wanted.
OP's suggestion is basically to lock your money/crypto somehow so you can't spend it on gambling. However, I don't this is going to work because and addict who can't control himself will definitely find a way to get more money.
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They cost nothing. I remove my bank cards, my e-mail, phone number if it is possible between leaving it. If it is impossible to remove all paying methods i used - i delete it.
The accounts i use differs. Some of them has about $10-20, few are about $250-500. Summary it is about $2.000-2.500 i think. But it is not fixed sum - i bet a lot and withdraw regularly.
In a public forum i can say tell my opinion. And all of us must understand that it is not a good idea to follow the advices of unknown person without own research.

Firstl, I still think that account trading is risky even though the prices you have given may seem attractive. And if you can delete all that data from the account, why would someone buy it? It is assumed that the account is registered in your personal name, that this name can never be changed, and that the rest of the data (payment card or confirmation address) matches it. This means that the process of change is not possible as easily as we imagine.

Secondly, you are not an unknown person on the Internet since you are a reputed member on the forum, according to your profile. This good reputation gives your ideas a kind of credibility that makes readers trust them to some extent. This holds you (as an honest member) morally responsible for what you publish. On this basis, I advise you to be careful about publishing some suggestions or sensitive ideas.
I count the accounts that i`m using right now. I never sold my accounts. The accounts i leaved - has no any information except my name and no money. In the operation history it is possible to see in-out transactions and that it were maid using the bank card. That`s all - there is no any information about card, when you remove it from payment methods. If it impossible - i try to delete account.

When i visited this forum first time i thought the same, but some time later i understand, that accounts can be stolen or sold for example. That`s why i try to check any information i get here. There are some members, who i don`t need to check, but it is because i know them for several years and see if they change their languages or interests. I think that it is the first rule - don`t believe information from internet without own research.
Anyway i don`t recommend anybody to buy or sell account. It is mostly rejected by ToS and it is possible to be banned.

Well, we're not different then. I also confirm that I agree with you in your opinion about how to deal with the opinions published on the forum, noting that a new visitor may not have the same awareness as you of the necessity of researching and verifying any information, no matter how reliable its source may appears.

Regarding information on accounts, since the name cannot be changed, when you erase your bank card data, this will not mean that the new user (buyer) can add his own card data that does not match the original registered name. In this case, he will definitely be banned, and if he is unlucky enough, the platform may allow him to deposit before banning him. So, the only premise for selling an account is that someone thinks about defrauding someone, making him believe that he can buy the account and use it. As far as I know, those interested in accounts trading ensure that the accounts are authenticated and may request to purchase payment card data in exchange for completely abandoning its use. In any case, this remains a dangerous adventure for both parties.

In the end, thank you my friend for this interesting conversation.
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You guys should stop deceiving yourself about this and thereby preaching weakness to people. There are testable working ways to stop addiction and there are addicts that can testify to it. The fact that something is tough to achieve does not mean that it can't be achieved, and the fact that a certain means of cure doesn't work for some certain people doesn't mean it is not the right advice or procedure, people are different, and so how they take thing. There are many factors to be considered here as well, which include the willingness of the gambler in question, the level of the damage already caused and the mind power of the gambler himself.

If we are convinced right from our mind that we cannot do or achieve something, then there is no amount of words and encouragement that can make such happened expect we are changed from the initial perspective we have towards that same thing, in gambling, we can go for what we want, there is freedom of making selection, but many choose the way they appear all because they lack in some information's required for them to know and go through, while such could have been helpful in their gambling.
Of course, with the right calculations and not taking careless steps, even the smallest mistake can be detrimental to oneself, even if they get encouragement from the family, it will not necessarily reach their ears. If they are truly a heavy gambling addict, no matter how big the encouragement is, they will be ignored because of that.  This is what people are used to, it would be better to wait until their money runs out and of course it will stop, but bad things will definitely happen, they can borrow money from someone to continue playing until their inner satisfaction is truly entertained, one way is to invite and find something to do for themselves.  Forget about gambling, at least it's a fun activity.
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