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Topic: Hufflepuff Making 2k BTC On PrimeDice Nov 2014. March 2015 Update: He Cheated - page 14. (Read 50041 times)

legendary
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Has Stunna posted an official statement regarding the Hufflepuff incident yet?
legendary
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I just saw the video and I was also very surprised to anyone can win thousands btc from dice site and published I strongly believe
that he cheating because its very difficult conducted with any strategy
full member
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the story i heard about how HufflePuff wins is too hard to prove. even the exploit is possible on his time
hero member
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any news about Stunna's explanation?? i'm interesting

Nothing yet. Stunna usually do things (PD3 and new sig campaign) fairly slowly Tongue and so we will probably need to wait for months to get the whole story.

Yup, I think running his business is more of his attention right now rather than making a story that won't give him any profits.
sr. member
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Damn, no wonder why his shit was so high.. I was like 1000% percent win rate.

Im sure he cant proove shit, he would usully point it out things fast, dont make excuses for him. He could even fabricate it all this time he had.  He just mad he lost fair and square
full member
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Damn, no wonder why his shit was so high.. I was like 1000% percent win rate.
legendary
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any news about Stunna's explanation?? i'm interesting

Nothing yet. Stunna usually do things (PD3 and new sig campaign) fairly slowly Tongue and so we will probably need to wait for months to get the whole story.
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any news about Stunna's explanation?? i'm interesting
legendary
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The only problem is that the player knows his server seed. How can anyone ever verify that he doesn't know it?

I know it ain't possible, but then people should stop saying the Hufflepuff cheated as we don't have any proof...
There are many people winning such huge amount of profits daily, and so claiming this one to be a cheat if not possible to prove ain't better without any evidence...

I was trying to say that there's no way to prove that someone doesn't know something.

That's not the same as saying that you can't prove that someone does know something. Maybe the exploit he used left a trace in the server logs, for example, and that allowed the PD admins to know for sure that he cheated.

We'll just have to wait for Stunna to tell us what actually happened, and how they are so sure he cheated.

Edit: this is the post where Stunna is going to provide the full details.

Originally it said:

Since this up again.

Robinnhood = Hufflepuff. Both abusing the same exploit I posted about a couple of months ago.

Hufflepuff was paid out over 2.5k BTC over multiple accounts he used with this exploit. Can link the TXID's if need be since I'm not concerned about his privacy obviously. Robinnhood however was not paid out as when we patched the glitch we made it so anyone who did it could not withdraw in an attempt to recoup a small amount of our losses from the exploit. So instead he kept rolling wins in attempt to be funny with no ability to cash out.

Hope this clears things up.

And Primedice's bank roll was barely affected and the exploit is now 100% fixed. The exploit only affected the house & not players. This is another reason why we don't accept investments and advise others to be careful doing so! Unforeseeable stuff like this happens.

Then it changed to this:

Edited out for now, will edit in with the full details later. It would be preferable for people to be presented the full story rather than vague details here and there.

And later he will edit it again and fill in the details.

Ohk fine, my apologies towards my words...
I will look towards Stunna's explanation on this as even I am more than excited to see how this proves to be a "cheat"...
legendary
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The only problem is that the player knows his server seed. How can anyone ever verify that he doesn't know it?

I know it ain't possible, but then people should stop saying the Hufflepuff cheated as we don't have any proof...
There are many people winning such huge amount of profits daily, and so claiming this one to be a cheat if not possible to prove ain't better without any evidence...

I was trying to say that there's no way to prove that someone doesn't know something.

That's not the same as saying that you can't prove that someone does know something. Maybe the exploit he used left a trace in the server logs, for example, and that allowed the PD admins to know for sure that he cheated.

We'll just have to wait for Stunna to tell us what actually happened, and how they are so sure he cheated.

Edit: this is the post where Stunna is going to provide the full details.

Originally it said:

Since this up again.

Robinnhood = Hufflepuff. Both abusing the same exploit I posted about a couple of months ago.

Hufflepuff was paid out over 2.5k BTC over multiple accounts he used with this exploit. Can link the TXID's if need be since I'm not concerned about his privacy obviously. Robinnhood however was not paid out as when we patched the glitch we made it so anyone who did it could not withdraw in an attempt to recoup a small amount of our losses from the exploit. So instead he kept rolling wins in attempt to be funny with no ability to cash out.

Hope this clears things up.

And Primedice's bank roll was barely affected and the exploit is now 100% fixed. The exploit only affected the house & not players. This is another reason why we don't accept investments and advise others to be careful doing so! Unforeseeable stuff like this happens.

Then it changed to this:

Edited out for now, will edit in with the full details later. It would be preferable for people to be presented the full story rather than vague details here and there.

And later he will edit it again and fill in the details.
legendary
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well, looks like he cheated the system. I don't how he did that, but Stunna said that he'll post an article about it soon.

I was there when he won the first 1k and some people told the admins that they should check those bets thoroughly.. guess they didn't check enough

He apparently cheated by knowing his server seed. Once you know that, you can calculate what your future rolls will be.
I am still curious how he actually did that . Doesn't look like he just got lucky by figuring out the seed as following his win, there was another user who made 140 bets of 10 BTC and won all of them, which looked like done to show some kind of flaw.
So I am guessing he was able to figure out the seed due to some flaw in the system. Will still wait for the article from Stunna on it.

In case you don't know it yet, that user is "Robinnhood" who was flat betting 10 btc and won all the bets after Stunna declined his withdrawal. And according to Stunna, "Robinnhood" is the same person as "Hufflepuff". https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10773844

Yes thats what I mean. According to me it is HufflePuf, who made those bets on purpose just to show a flaw of some kind. He probably after winning 2000 BTC wanted to now come out and point out by doing that , that there is some kind of flaw.

Now Since Robinhood was another account(with a new seed combination), and if he was Hufflepuff, then he was somehow able to gain access to the server seed on another account as well, and it wasn't just luck or something that he figured out the server seed on his main account Hufflepuff.
hero member
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well, looks like he cheated the system. I don't how he did that, but Stunna said that he'll post an article about it soon.

I was there when he won the first 1k and some people told the admins that they should check those bets thoroughly.. guess they didn't check enough

He apparently cheated by knowing his server seed. Once you know that, you can calculate what your future rolls will be.
I am still curious how he actually did that . Doesn't look like he just got lucky by figuring out the seed as following his win, there was another user who made 140 bets of 10 BTC and won all of them, which looked like done to show some kind of flaw.
So I am guessing he was able to figure out the seed due to some flaw in the system. Will still wait for the article from Stunna on it.

In case you don't know it yet, that user is "Robinnhood" who was flat betting 10 btc and won all the bets after Stunna declined his withdrawal. And according to Stunna, "Robinnhood" is the same person as "Hufflepuff". https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10773844
legendary
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well, looks like he cheated the system. I don't how he did that, but Stunna said that he'll post an article about it soon.

I was there when he won the first 1k and some people told the admins that they should check those bets thoroughly.. guess they didn't check enough

He apparently cheated by knowing his server seed. Once you know that, you can calculate what your future rolls will be.
I am still curious how he actually did that . Doesn't look like he just got lucky by figuring out the seed as following his win, there was another user who made 140 bets of 10 BTC and won all of them, which looked like done to show some kind of flaw.
So I am guessing he was able to figure out the seed due to some flaw in the system. Will still wait for the article from Stunna on it.
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if he would have cheated more people would have done that in my opinion because he surely wouldnt have stopped
hero member
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Interested in how he did it then. Knowing your server seed is not something that will tell you what to bet in advance? A lot of betting sites even provide the seed to be sure they play 'fair'

Not really. Provably fair sites will only provide you the hash of your server seed beforehand, but not the server seed itself.
Otherwise, the players will know what number is going to be rolled before the bet is made.
newbie
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WoW that profit is insane  Shocked
sr. member
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Interested in how he did it then. Knowing your server seed is not something that will tell you what to bet in advance? A lot of betting sites even provide the seed to be sure they play 'fair'
hero member
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There's nothing to verify. Stunna knows his site is provably fair. The rolls will match the rolls given by the provably fair roll algorithm. The only problem is that the player knows his server seed. How can anyone ever verify that he doesn't know it?

I know it ain't possible, but then people should stop saying the Hufflepuff cheated as we don't have any proof...
There are many people winning such huge amount of profits daily, and so claiming this one to be a cheat if not possible to prove ain't better without any evidence...

Obviously since Stunna told us that he did cheat he has the proof to back up his claim... He wouldn't say that unless he had proof and as he posted he will make a blog post that will provide more info regarding this.
legendary
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There's nothing to verify. Stunna knows his site is provably fair. The rolls will match the rolls given by the provably fair roll algorithm. The only problem is that the player knows his server seed. How can anyone ever verify that he doesn't know it?

I know it ain't possible, but then people should stop saying the Hufflepuff cheated as we don't have any proof...
There are many people winning such huge amount of profits daily, and so claiming this one to be a cheat if not possible to prove ain't better without any evidence...

What does Stunna have to gain by claiming he cheated if he didnt? since i updated the title would be handy to know your theory.
legendary
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
There's nothing to verify. Stunna knows his site is provably fair. The rolls will match the rolls given by the provably fair roll algorithm. The only problem is that the player knows his server seed. How can anyone ever verify that he doesn't know it?

I know it ain't possible, but then people should stop saying the Hufflepuff cheated as we don't have any proof...
There are many people winning such huge amount of profits daily, and so claiming this one to be a cheat if not possible to prove ain't better without any evidence...
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