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Topic: Hufflepuff Making 2k BTC On PrimeDice Nov 2014. March 2015 Update: He Cheated - page 12. (Read 50027 times)

sr. member
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there's no proof HP cheated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSLXv5Tz1ZY


Watch this and think about how much luck one man can have in his life  Cool Even Jason Statham in Wild Card didn't have that much luck in a Hollywood movie.

I sas this and i got lucky with low bets like this, again no proof to Stunna and all dice ops that cant prove it
legendary
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stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.

Winning the lottery is something like a 1 in a 100 million chance, give or take. You're unlikely to win, but someone in your country will probably win each week.

Winning 100 50/50 bets in a row however is a 1 in a million trillion trillion chance. That's a 1 with 30 zeroes after it. You're unlikely to do it, and so is anyone in the whole world even if they each try once per second for a trillion years.

Winning the lottery is 1-with-8-zeroes hard,
Winning 100 coin tosses in a row is 1-with-30-zeroes impossible.

See the difference?
legendary
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a. we haven't any proof for this except some pictures or videos that show someone has high chance .

b. if Robbinhood could find seeds , why stunna couldn't do that and manipulate our bets ?

Either of these events , stunna is loser , in option a stunna cleaned up robbinhood's profit for no reason and in option b stuuna gonna be unreliable

You seem confused about how things work.

Stunna paid HufflePuff over 2000 BTC already. He has nothing to gain by announcing the HufflePuff was cheating. It would look great for the site if someone actually won over 2000 BTC fairly and got paid out. It would give other plays hope that they could do the same. Announcing that the biggest ever winning did his winning by cheating doesn't help Stunna or the site at all, and so it is very likely true.

Stunna of course can see everyone's seeds. He can't manipulate your bets due to the way that the site's provably fair algorithm works. If he tried, he could be caught, and publicly outed. It's not worth the risk. The only real risk is that he could make an account and play on it knowing the seeds, and use the seeds to win. But he would only be winning from himself (and his private investors, assuming he has any). It's not a concern for players.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
there's no proof HP cheated

Yes , Some People could not accept this reality but could accept 32 loss in a row at 49% easily .


If dice was heavy skill based game, and you can decide yourself (even a little) whether you win or lose  I would probably believe that he could won that much because he is godly player and he is exceptionally skilled in dice. But dice is just simple luck game and there are not much of tactic or skill involved. So there is no way he done that without cheating the system.

There are two points

1 - stunna haven't enough tolerance for losing so money from his site and cleans up so much profits by various excuses .

2 - there was a really cheating process

In option 2 there is some problems :

a. we haven't any proof for this except some pictures or videos that show someone has high chance .

b. if Robbinhood could find seeds , why stunna couldn't do that and manipulate our bets ?

Either of these events , stunna is loser , in option a stunna cleaned up robbinhood's profit for no reason and in option b stuuna gonna be unreliable


.

1. It is wrong

2. It is completely wrong

for Option 1 :

PrimeDice has been running for quite a long time and it is trusted, Stunna give a lot of giveaway for the user for each billionth bet, which you can find on other dice site.
Losing 2k+ BTC of course will make the house bleed, but it will not be enough to bankrupt the house since the PrimeDice is still up and running without any heavy issue as of now

for Option 2a :

Yes there is no conclusive proof from stunna yet but apart from his statement that hufflepuff =robinhood = cheater, we can already know that indeed hufflepuff cheated on the site, although Stunna will be posting conclusive evidence soon, but "soon" can means quite some times for stunna

for Option 2b :

What do you mean by Stunna to manipulate our bet and find the seed? Stunna owns PrimeDice and he knows the house seed
If stunna will manipulate our bet, it can be easily proven since the site implement a provably fair system , you can easily tell if PD manipulate each of our roll just like 999dice did.
stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.

That wouldnt be the option for this, there will be two options for stunna

1. Post up the evidence and how did the exploit was done so that the whole community can know how it is done
2. Seal up evidence and how it is done from the public

I believe stunna has proven how he cheated, it is just a matter of decision wether he will spit it out to the public or not and of course winning a lottery is posibble, but winning in a dice sites with 100+ streak , 49.5 % chance, and by switching high and low wouldnt be consider as lucky
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 250
there's no proof HP cheated

Yes , Some People could not accept this reality but could accept 32 loss in a row at 49% easily .


If dice was heavy skill based game, and you can decide yourself (even a little) whether you win or lose  I would probably believe that he could won that much because he is godly player and he is exceptionally skilled in dice. But dice is just simple luck game and there are not much of tactic or skill involved. So there is no way he done that without cheating the system.

There are two points

1 - stunna haven't enough tolerance for losing so money from his site and cleans up so much profits by various excuses .

2 - there was a really cheating process

In option 2 there is some problems :

a. we haven't any proof for this except some pictures or videos that show someone has high chance .

b. if Robbinhood could find seeds , why stunna couldn't do that and manipulate our bets ?

Either of these events , stunna is loser , in option a stunna cleaned up robbinhood's profit for no reason and in option b stuuna gonna be unreliable


.

1. It is wrong

2. It is completely wrong

for Option 1 :

PrimeDice has been running for quite a long time and it is trusted, Stunna give a lot of giveaway for the user for each billionth bet, which you can find on other dice site.
Losing 2k+ BTC of course will make the house bleed, but it will not be enough to bankrupt the house since the PrimeDice is still up and running without any heavy issue as of now

for Option 2a :

Yes there is no conclusive proof from stunna yet but apart from his statement that hufflepuff =robinhood = cheater, we can already know that indeed hufflepuff cheated on the site, although Stunna will be posting conclusive evidence soon, but "soon" can means quite some times for stunna

for Option 2b :

What do you mean by Stunna to manipulate our bet and find the seed? Stunna owns PrimeDice and he knows the house seed
If stunna will manipulate our bet, it can be easily proven since the site implement a provably fair system , you can easily tell if PD manipulate each of our roll just like 999dice did.
stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
there's no proof HP cheated

Yes , Some People could not accept this reality but could accept 32 loss in a row at 49% easily .


If dice was heavy skill based game, and you can decide yourself (even a little) whether you win or lose  I would probably believe that he could won that much because he is godly player and he is exceptionally skilled in dice. But dice is just simple luck game and there are not much of tactic or skill involved. So there is no way he done that without cheating the system.

There are two points

1 - stunna haven't enough tolerance for losing so money from his site and cleans up so much profits by various excuses .

2 - there was a really cheating process

In option 2 there is some problems :

a. we haven't any proof for this except some pictures or videos that show someone has high chance .

b. if Robbinhood could find seeds , why stunna couldn't do that and manipulate our bets ?

Either of these events , stunna is loser , in option a stunna cleaned up robbinhood's profit for no reason and in option b stuuna gonna be unreliable


.

1. It is wrong

2. It is completely wrong

for Option 1 :

PrimeDice has been running for quite a long time and it is trusted, Stunna give a lot of giveaway for the user for each billionth bet, which you can find on other dice site.
Losing 2k+ BTC of course will make the house bleed, but it will not be enough to bankrupt the house since the PrimeDice is still up and running without any heavy issue as of now

for Option 2a :

Yes there is no conclusive proof from stunna yet but apart from his statement that hufflepuff =robinhood = cheater, we can already know that indeed hufflepuff cheated on the site, although Stunna will be posting conclusive evidence soon, but "soon" can means quite some times for stunna

for Option 2b :

What do you mean by Stunna to manipulate our bet and find the seed? Stunna owns PrimeDice and he knows the house seed
If stunna will manipulate our bet, it can be easily proven since the site implement a provably fair system , you can easily tell if PD manipulate each of our roll just like 999dice did.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
there's no proof HP cheated

Yes , Some People could not accept this reality but could accept 32 loss in a row at 49% easily .


If dice was heavy skill based game, and you can decide yourself (even a little) whether you win or lose  I would probably believe that he could won that much because he is godly player and he is exceptionally skilled in dice. But dice is just simple luck game and there are not much of tactic or skill involved. So there is no way he done that without cheating the system.

There are two points

1 - stunna haven't enough tolerance for losing so money from his site and cleans up so much profits by various excuses .

2 - there was a really cheating process

In option 2 there is some problems :

a. we haven't any proof for this except some pictures or videos that show someone has high chance .

b. if Robbinhood could find seeds , why stunna couldn't do that and manipulate our bets ?

Either of these events , stunna is loser , in option a stunna cleaned up robbinhood's profit for no reason and in option b stuuna gonna be unreliable


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legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1001
there's no proof HP cheated

Yes , Some People could not accept this reality but could accept 32 loss in a row at 49% easily .


If dice was heavy skill based game, and you can decide yourself (even a little) whether you win or lose  I would probably believe that he could won that much because he is godly player and he is exceptionally skilled in dice. But dice is just simple luck game and there are not much of tactic or skill involved. So there is no way he done that without cheating the system.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
is there any proof he cheated. !? proof or it didnt  happen



Do you call it proof ? a picture ?

Not just a picture but many PD users have witnessed Robbinhood making over 100 wins in a row.
Do you believe it is just good luck?

When i experience 11 lost in a row at 75% so it's normal 30 or more wins in a row at 50% .

Well if it is 30, yup I could take it as just good luck, but we are talking about over 100 wins in a row.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
there's no proof HP cheated

Yes , Some People could not accept this reality but could accept 32 loss in a row at 49% easily .


hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
is there any proof he cheated. !? proof or it didnt  happen



Do you call it proof ? a picture ?

Not just a picture but many PD users have witnessed Robbinhood making over 100 wins in a row.
Do you believe it is just good luck?

When i experience 11 lost in a row at 75% so it's normal 30 or more wins in a row at 50% .

Anyway , If a picture could proof anything [ special a cheat processing ] So see picture below .  Cheesy Cheesy

sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 250
wait how did he exactly cheat though, i dont get it.

Stunna said he was able to get the unhashed server seed before making the bets.
We will need to wait for Stunna's official announcement to know how exactly he did that.
And that's stunna's fault...
Stunna should have protected the unhashed server seed, if he had put 2k bitcoins in more safety he wouldn't have lost this amount  Cheesy
still sad for such a great website
hero member
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wait how did he exactly cheat though, i dont get it.

Stunna said he was able to get the unhashed server seed before making the bets.
We will need to wait for Stunna's official announcement to know how exactly he did that.
sr. member
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wait how did he exactly cheat though, i dont get it.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
is there any proof he cheated. !? proof or it didnt  happen



Do you call it proof ? a picture ?

Not just a picture but many PD users have witnessed Robbinhood making over 100 wins in a row.
Do you believe it is just good luck?
hero member
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full member
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is there any proof he cheated. !? proof or it didnt  happen

legendary
Activity: 2562
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there's no proof HP cheated

The proof will be stunna's statement that he will be posting how the exploit was done, Stunna of all people who actually let him to withdraw 2k + BTC wouldnt even lie about this, if he was legit, Stunna will get over with this since this is a good promotion for the sites to prove that PrimeDice is legit, but his statement of he will be posting the details explanation is indeed another proof that hufflepuff was indeed cheated

Although there is still no explanation yet from stunna, but it will come eventually
legendary
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there's no proof HP cheated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSLXv5Tz1ZY


Watch this and think about how much luck one man can have in his life  Cool Even Jason Statham in Wild Card didn't have that much luck in a Hollywood movie.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
there's no proof HP cheated
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