Topic: Hufflepuff Making 2k BTC On PrimeDice Nov 2014. March 2015 Update: He Cheated - page 11. (Read 50029 times)
April 14, 2015, 07:04:48 AM
I do not understand how people dislike hufflepuff. Given the chance almost all of us here would do the same thing if we knew . Hell I might even slow ride it as much as possible. Try to stay hidden and get as much as I could.
April 14, 2015, 07:00:22 AM
very nice but too risky or can cause to heart crysis 
Not really. Exploiting a loophole in the system to win is not nice at all, and the cheater has taken no risk in it.
Well there is the risk of private investigations, iirc wasn't hufflepuff known by the sites owners having spoke on skype several times before?
Its a scammers paradise in bitcoin right now though generally.
That tight git hufflepuff didnt even tip my video after help making him a dice celebrity, dam you hufflepuff!
Are you in such a bad spot yourself to want the dirty money of scammers? Hypocrisy much?
This is making a huge judgement on limited information, I dont know where to begin on it. Its mostly joking tbh. If Hufflepuff wants to send me the 2k bitcoins or any bitcoins i will PM stunna and im sure he would reward me nicely which is fine by me. Hows that for you?
& Btw the title saying cheat is not meant as a moral judgement as such, it was meant as a statement of fact to help people understand the situation quickly - assuming sources are correct.
If it happened in the way reported i agree its a shame it happened and if i had to make a judgement call then yes i agree it seems a fairly immoral brutal attack taking so much money like that. Primedice have been very classy in the past and done a good job to the community overall, wish them a speedy recovery.
April 14, 2015, 06:28:20 AM
very nice but too risky or can cause to heart crysis
Not really. Exploiting a loophole in the system to win is not nice at all, and the cheater has taken no risk in it.
Well there is the risk of private investigations, iirc wasn't hufflepuff known by the sites owners having spoke on skype several times before?
Its a scammers paradise in bitcoin right now though generally.
That tight git hufflepuff didnt even tip my video after help making him a dice celebrity, dam you hufflepuff!
Are you in such a bad spot yourself to want the dirty money of scammers? Hypocrisy much?
April 14, 2015, 06:21:32 AM
very nice but too risky or can cause to heart crysis
Not really. Exploiting a loophole in the system to win is not nice at all, and the cheater has taken no risk in it.
Well there is the risk of private investigations, iirc wasn't hufflepuff known by the sites owners having spoke on skype several times before?
Its a scammers paradise in bitcoin right now though generally.
That tight git hufflepuff didnt even tip my video after help making him a dice celebrity, dam you hufflepuff!
April 14, 2015, 01:26:16 AM
very nice but too risky or can cause to heart crysis
Not really. Exploiting a loophole in the system to win is not nice at all, and the cheater has taken no risk in it.
April 14, 2015, 01:14:02 AM
very nice but too risky or can cause to heart crysis
April 13, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
Stunna is taking a seriously long time to update us on the full story. he must be making sure no one could ever repeat this even if the method of cheating is posted in full. I'm sorry for the 2.5k BTC loss. 2100 BTC is a far off dream of mine.
April 13, 2015, 11:07:02 PM
stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.
Winning the lottery is something like a 1 in a 100 million chance, give or take. You're unlikely to win, but someone in your country will probably win each week.
Winning 100 50/50 bets in a row however is a 1 in a million trillion trillion chance. That's a 1 with 30 zeroes after it. You're unlikely to do it, and so is anyone in the whole world even if they each try once per second for a trillion years.
Winning the lottery is 1-with-8-zeroes hard,
Winning 100 coin tosses in a row is 1-with-30-zeroes impossible.
See the difference?
that's indeed impossiblei thought stunna said it were a lot of bets, some losses and wins but more wins than losses
if stunna pays out 100 50/50 bets in a row he's not that smart
I think some guy robinhood made 100 10BTC bets at 50% and ended up winning all of them. However rumors are he is hufflepuff and wanted to show some kind of flaw by doing that. Obviously , Stunna didn't let the withdrawal through.
Its just because his greed. He doesnt think of he can get much more if he make atleast 10btc a day and not that 1 time 2000btc winning
April 13, 2015, 10:39:34 PM
why would hufflepuff/robinhood do this? instead of building up more profit, day after day, making new accounts so it's not obvious etc.etc. ?
That is a very god question leen.I started wondering about it as soon stunna announced that he cheated and the only thing that I came up with is that a-the attack was pretty obvious and stunna would have noticed it so he wanted to rip as much and as fast as possible b-he didn't wanted to destroy stunna.And leen it is pretty obvious that huff with his second account wanted to point the vulnerability.Edit after reading minlo's post c- he wanted to have fun.
he is indeed could have get small profit day by day, by doing this it will not alert stunna, lets say 1 btc / day, this is a normal thing in PD and of course will not trigger an alert, but his greed get over him, lettimh himself make alot of profit in one day, that is when it trigger an alert for stunna, so stunna check it and found the exploit
April 13, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
why would hufflepuff/robinhood do this? instead of building up more profit, day after day, making new accounts so it's not obvious etc.etc. ?
That is a very god question leen.I started wondering about it as soon stunna announced that he cheated and the only thing that I came up with is that a-the attack was pretty obvious and stunna would have noticed it so he wanted to rip as much and as fast as possible b-he didn't wanted to destroy stunna.And leen it is pretty obvious that huff with his second account wanted to point the vulnerability.Edit after reading minlo's post c- he wanted to have fun.
April 13, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
why would hufflepuff/robinhood do this? instead of building up more profit, day after day, making new accounts so it's not obvious etc.etc. ?
That is a very god question leen.I started wondering about it as soon stunna announced that he cheated and the only thing that I came up with is that a-the attack was pretty obvious and stunna would have noticed it so he wanted to rip as much and as fast as possible b-he didn't wanted to destroy stunna.And leen it is pretty obvious that huff with his second account wanted to point the vulnerability.Edit after reading minlo's post c- he wanted to have fun.
April 13, 2015, 04:22:57 PM
why would hufflepuff/robinhood do this? instead of building up more profit, day after day, making new accounts so it's not obvious etc.etc. ?
Because Stunna has already noticed the problem, patched the bug, and declined his withdrawals at that point (though it is a bit too late).
Check the bolded part of Stunna's original post:
Since this up again.
Robinnhood = Hufflepuff. Both abusing the same exploit I posted about a couple of months ago.
Hufflepuff was paid out over 2.5k BTC over multiple accounts he used with this exploit. Can link the TXID's if need be since I'm not concerned about his privacy obviously. Robinnhood however was not paid out as when we patched the glitch we made it so anyone who did it could not withdraw in an attempt to recoup a small amount of our losses from the exploit. So instead he kept rolling wins in attempt to be funny with no ability to cash out.
Hope this clears things up.
And Primedice's bank roll was barely affected and the exploit is now 100% fixed. The exploit only affected the house & not players. This is another reason why we don't accept investments and advise others to be careful doing so! Unforeseeable stuff like this happens.
Robinnhood = Hufflepuff. Both abusing the same exploit I posted about a couple of months ago.
Hufflepuff was paid out over 2.5k BTC over multiple accounts he used with this exploit. Can link the TXID's if need be since I'm not concerned about his privacy obviously. Robinnhood however was not paid out as when we patched the glitch we made it so anyone who did it could not withdraw in an attempt to recoup a small amount of our losses from the exploit. So instead he kept rolling wins in attempt to be funny with no ability to cash out.
Hope this clears things up.
And Primedice's bank roll was barely affected and the exploit is now 100% fixed. The exploit only affected the house & not players. This is another reason why we don't accept investments and advise others to be careful doing so! Unforeseeable stuff like this happens.
April 13, 2015, 04:10:43 PM
stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.
Winning the lottery is something like a 1 in a 100 million chance, give or take. You're unlikely to win, but someone in your country will probably win each week.
Winning 100 50/50 bets in a row however is a 1 in a million trillion trillion chance. That's a 1 with 30 zeroes after it. You're unlikely to do it, and so is anyone in the whole world even if they each try once per second for a trillion years.
Winning the lottery is 1-with-8-zeroes hard,
Winning 100 coin tosses in a row is 1-with-30-zeroes impossible.
See the difference?
that's indeed impossiblei thought stunna said it were a lot of bets, some losses and wins but more wins than losses
if stunna pays out 100 50/50 bets in a row he's not that smart
I think some guy robinhood made 100 10BTC bets at 50% and ended up winning all of them. However rumors are he is hufflepuff and wanted to show some kind of flaw by doing that. Obviously , Stunna didn't let the withdrawal through.
April 13, 2015, 03:31:05 PM
stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.
Winning the lottery is something like a 1 in a 100 million chance, give or take. You're unlikely to win, but someone in your country will probably win each week.
Winning 100 50/50 bets in a row however is a 1 in a million trillion trillion chance. That's a 1 with 30 zeroes after it. You're unlikely to do it, and so is anyone in the whole world even if they each try once per second for a trillion years.
Winning the lottery is 1-with-8-zeroes hard,
Winning 100 coin tosses in a row is 1-with-30-zeroes impossible.
See the difference?
that's indeed impossiblei thought stunna said it were a lot of bets, some losses and wins but more wins than losses
if stunna pays out 100 50/50 bets in a row he's not that smart
I think some guy robinhood made 100 10BTC bets at 50% and ended up winning all of them. However rumors are he is hufflepuff and wanted to show some kind of flaw by doing that. Obviously , Stunna didn't let the withdrawal through.
April 13, 2015, 03:19:06 PM
stunna never will be able to proof hufflepuff=robinhood=cheater, they can just be lucky players, winning the lotery also isn't impossible.
Winning the lottery is something like a 1 in a 100 million chance, give or take. You're unlikely to win, but someone in your country will probably win each week.
Winning 100 50/50 bets in a row however is a 1 in a million trillion trillion chance. That's a 1 with 30 zeroes after it. You're unlikely to do it, and so is anyone in the whole world even if they each try once per second for a trillion years.
Winning the lottery is 1-with-8-zeroes hard,
Winning 100 coin tosses in a row is 1-with-30-zeroes impossible.
See the difference?
that's indeed impossiblei thought stunna said it were a lot of bets, some losses and wins but more wins than losses
if stunna pays out 100 50/50 bets in a row he's not that smart
April 13, 2015, 03:17:51 PM
Stunna of course can see everyone's seeds. He can't manipulate your bets due to the way that the site's provably fair algorithm works. If he tried, he could be caught, and publicly outed. It's not worth the risk. The only real risk is that he could make an account and play on it knowing the seeds, and use the seeds to win. But he would only be winning from himself (and his private investors, assuming he has any). It's not a concern for players.
I am not a negativity person but suppose you do it right now . It means you can empty all of invested Clams in Just-Dice ?
Yes he can and so does the other site owner with the investment feature, they can play smartly and win from his own sites, because they know the seeds, this is a method use by hufflepuff to predict the next roll.
Although dooglus would not ruin his sites reputation by doing this .
April 13, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Although dooglus would not ruin his sites reputation by doing this .
Not that I intend to question anyone, but even if any of the site operator did, they would do it in a way to generate themselves a good steady income, and would do it undetected. So there is actually almost no way to figure it out .
April 13, 2015, 02:53:55 PM
Stunna of course can see everyone's seeds. He can't manipulate your bets due to the way that the site's provably fair algorithm works. If he tried, he could be caught, and publicly outed. It's not worth the risk. The only real risk is that he could make an account and play on it knowing the seeds, and use the seeds to win. But he would only be winning from himself (and his private investors, assuming he has any). It's not a concern for players.
I am not a negativity person but suppose you do it right now . It means you can empty all of invested Clams in Just-Dice ?
Yes he can and so does the other site owner with the investment feature, they can play smartly and win from his own sites, because they know the seeds, this is a method use by hufflepuff to predict the next roll.
Although dooglus would not ruin his sites reputation by doing this .
April 13, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
Stunna of course can see everyone's seeds. He can't manipulate your bets due to the way that the site's provably fair algorithm works. If he tried, he could be caught, and publicly outed. It's not worth the risk. The only real risk is that he could make an account and play on it knowing the seeds, and use the seeds to win. But he would only be winning from himself (and his private investors, assuming he has any). It's not a concern for players.
I am not a negativity person but suppose you do it right now . It means you can empty all of invested Clams in Just-Dice ?
Yes, he can, and so can anyone who runs an investment site. Investors just have to trust them with it. I won't actually be surprised in any of the site owners actually do this. Its almost impossible to say with confidence, that someone is not doing it.
But I suppose investors understand this risk before investing.
April 13, 2015, 02:32:26 PM
Stunna of course can see everyone's seeds. He can't manipulate your bets due to the way that the site's provably fair algorithm works. If he tried, he could be caught, and publicly outed. It's not worth the risk. The only real risk is that he could make an account and play on it knowing the seeds, and use the seeds to win. But he would only be winning from himself (and his private investors, assuming he has any). It's not a concern for players.
I am not a negativity person but suppose you do it right now . It means you can empty all of invested Clams in Just-Dice ?
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