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Topic: Hufflepuff Making 2k BTC On PrimeDice Nov 2014. March 2015 Update: He Cheated - page 9. (Read 50029 times)

legendary
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So when will stunna explain?

what explain? how hufflepuff did that?

Stunna said he is going to edit his post in this thread with full details of the exploit.

this is the post where Stunna is going to provide the full details.

Originally it said:

Since this up again.

Robinnhood = Hufflepuff. Both abusing the same exploit I posted about a couple of months ago.

Hufflepuff was paid out over 2.5k BTC over multiple accounts he used with this exploit. Can link the TXID's if need be since I'm not concerned about his privacy obviously. Robinnhood however was not paid out as when we patched the glitch we made it so anyone who did it could not withdraw in an attempt to recoup a small amount of our losses from the exploit. So instead he kept rolling wins in attempt to be funny with no ability to cash out.

Hope this clears things up.

And Primedice's bank roll was barely affected and the exploit is now 100% fixed. The exploit only affected the house & not players. This is another reason why we don't accept investments and advise others to be careful doing so! Unforeseeable stuff like this happens.

Then it changed to this:

Edited out for now, will edit in with the full details later. It would be preferable for people to be presented the full story rather than vague details here and there.

And later he will edit it again and fill in the details.

He doesn't appear to have edited the post yet.

What has to be explained is the more detailed story on how did he manage to get his own seed. The server seed is never revealed to the gambler until he changes or resets his seed. But in this case hufflepuff managed to figure out his seed in some way.

If two accounts had the same server secret for some reason, you could reveal the secret on one account, and play using it on the other account. That may be what happened, but I don't think it has been revealed yet how anyone would get the same secret on two different accounts.
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So when will stunna explain?
what explain? how hufflepuff did that? i think he already told that the player had 2 same seeds on 2 accounts and on 1 he prerolled the bet and then made a bet with hufflepuff account when he knew the outcome he could win or loose on purpose


Yeah, but i though he said that he would release a more detailed story
What has to be explained is the more detailed story on how did he manage to get his own seed. The server seed is never revealed to the gambler until he changes or resets his seed. But in this case hufflepuff managed to figure out his seed in some way.
Waiting for more information from Stunna on this as well.

I have an idea on what he did for this, but i would like to find out for sure.Im pretty experienced with bugs especially on primedice, since i have reported few severe bugs to stunna
legendary
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So when will stunna explain?
what explain? how hufflepuff did that? i think he already told that the player had 2 same seeds on 2 accounts and on 1 he prerolled the bet and then made a bet with hufflepuff account when he knew the outcome he could win or loose on purpose


Yeah, but i though he said that he would release a more detailed story
What has to be explained is the more detailed story on how did he manage to get his own seed. The server seed is never revealed to the gambler until he changes or resets his seed. But in this case hufflepuff managed to figure out his seed in some way.
Waiting for more information from Stunna on this as well.
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So when will stunna explain?
what explain? how hufflepuff did that? i think he already told that the player had 2 same seeds on 2 accounts and on 1 he prerolled the bet and then made a bet with hufflepuff account when he knew the outcome he could win or loose on purpose


Yeah, but i though he said that he would release a more detailed story
oh didnt hear about that, i thought he already told everything in detail though it would be really interesting to get more information about hufflepuffs scam, i hope they solved that so no one can abuse the system any more
sr. member
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So when will stunna explain?
what explain? how hufflepuff did that? i think he already told that the player had 2 same seeds on 2 accounts and on 1 he prerolled the bet and then made a bet with hufflepuff account when he knew the outcome he could win or loose on purpose


Yeah, but i though he said that he would release a more detailed story
sr. member
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So when will stunna explain?
what explain? how hufflepuff did that? i think he already told that the player had 2 same seeds on 2 accounts and on 1 he prerolled the bet and then made a bet with hufflepuff account when he knew the outcome he could win or loose on purpose
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So when will stunna explain?
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Was he able to cash out the btc or was he stopped?

He was able to cash out 2000+ btc as hufflepuff but his next withdrawal as robinhood was blocked because Stunna has found out that he is using exploit to win

I don't think Stunna actually found out until Robinhood apparently made it obvious by getting like 140 wins in a row at 50/50 chance , which tipped everyone off. So it might just be him, who purposely did that to show the flaw. But even now, without Stunna's comment on the situation we still don't know if Robinhood was actually Hufflepuff.
Stunna had mentioned above (which have since been edited, but the quotes of his posts remain) that they used the same exploit.

You are probably correct to say that stunna did not know about the exploit until it was made blatantly obvious by robinhood.

It was mentioned above that Hufflepuff had withdrawn to 14iS2UvcLK33xkC1K1qL1dhEbp49aiNfNp, and it is known that robinhood was able to withdraw ~20 BTC before his additional withdrawals were stopped, and there do not appear to be any transactions in the amount of 20 BTC to the above address, so it would be reasonable to conclude that it would be possible they are different people.
legendary
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I don't think Stunna actually found out until Robinhood apparently made it obvious by getting like 140 wins in a row at 50/50 chance , which tipped everyone off. So it might just be him, who purposely did that to show the flaw. But even now, without Stunna's comment on the situation we still don't know if Robinhood was actually Hufflepuff.

oh sorry I haven't been in the gambling scene in a while I heard about robinhood but I didn't know that he was the same person.

They are the same person and stunna himself told us about it and Stunna found out robinhood = hufflepuff before the crazy show off winning streak.
The reason robinhood showed off his winning streak was because Stunna had blocked his account from withdrawing the balance, then he decided to show off his winning streak and make it more obviously to the other players

References below may not be a direct link because Stunna himself edited that out

Since this up again.

Robinnhood = Hufflepuff. Both abusing the same exploit I posted about a couple of months ago.

Hufflepuff was paid out over 2.5k BTC over multiple accounts he used with this exploit. Can link the TXID's if need be since I'm not concerned about his privacy obviously. Robinnhood however was not paid out as when we patched the glitch we made it so anyone who did it could not withdraw in an attempt to recoup a small amount of our losses from the exploit. So instead he kept rolling wins in attempt to be funny with no ability to cash out.

Hope this clears things up.

And Primedice's bank roll was barely affected and the exploit is now 100% fixed. The exploit only affected the house & not players. This is another reason why we don't accept investments and advise others to be careful doing so! Unforeseeable stuff like this happens.

Thank you for the fast reply, can you post here in the forum the various transaction id ? I think it would be a valid proof.

EDIT: can you explain the exploit, not it is patched so I think there is not a problem. Maybe better privately.

Here's the address he was cashing out to.

https://blockchain.info/address/14iS2UvcLK33xkC1K1qL1dhEbp49aiNfNp

http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/4c9d4c23c65af238?from_address=14iS2UvcLK33xkC1K1qL1dhEbp49aiNfNp

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Was he able to cash out the btc or was he stopped?

He was able to cash out 2000+ btc as hufflepuff but his next withdrawal as robinhood was blocked because Stunna has found out that he is using exploit to win

oh sorry I haven't been in the gambling scene in a while I heard about robinhood but I didn't know that he was the same person.
legendary
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Was he able to cash out the btc or was he stopped?

He was able to cash out 2000+ btc as hufflepuff but his next withdrawal as robinhood was blocked because Stunna has found out that he is using exploit to win

I don't think Stunna actually found out until Robinhood apparently made it obvious by getting like 140 wins in a row at 50/50 chance , which tipped everyone off. So it might just be him, who purposely did that to show the flaw. But even now, without Stunna's comment on the situation we still don't know if Robinhood was actually Hufflepuff.
legendary
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Was he able to cash out the btc or was he stopped?

He was able to cash out 2000+ btc as hufflepuff but his next withdrawal as robinhood was blocked because Stunna has found out that he is using exploit to win
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Was he able to cash out the btc or was he stopped?
legendary
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Why doesn't stunna publish a list of Hufflepuff's PrimeDice alts so we can see if any of them match any forum handles?

That would probably not do any good. Even if he was using any of the alts, the chances of his identity being known through any of his accounts is very less. And even if does become known, there would be nothing Stunna would be able to do against him. Specially when there is not legal help that he will get.

I don't see any downside to releasing the alts. If/when their RL identity is discovered then stunna could sue them to recover damages for the Bitcoin he stole.

Sue him how ? Primedice or any of the gambling sites aren't really licensed, so even if he figures out the identity, he will not be able to take any legal step towards the person, Specially because in this case , that he was taking advantage of a flaw or something on the casino site.
legendary
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Why doesn't stunna publish a list of Hufflepuff's PrimeDice alts so we can see if any of them match any forum handles?

That would probably not do any good. Even if he was using any of the alts, the chances of his identity being known through any of his accounts is very less. And even if does become known, there would be nothing Stunna would be able to do against him. Specially when there is not legal help that he will get.

I don't see any downside to releasing the alts. If/when their RL identity is discovered then stunna could sue them to recover damages for the Bitcoin he stole.

I believe Stunna has been researching all of this as well as he will not let this things go away since he knew that hufflepuff cheated. He had promised to release a full details on how hufflepuff did the exploit as well as the other things in article but until now the promise isnt fullfill yet.
Mostly I believe the reason for the delay is because Stunna is investigating this deeper and would not want hufflepuff to know that he is being investigated right now

if you are interested perhaps you can track on this

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Why doesn't stunna publish a list of Hufflepuff's PrimeDice alts so we can see if any of them match any forum handles?

That would probably not do any good. Even if he was using any of the alts, the chances of his identity being known through any of his accounts is very less. And even if does become known, there would be nothing Stunna would be able to do against him. Specially when there is not legal help that he will get.

I don't see any downside to releasing the alts. If/when their RL identity is discovered then stunna could sue them to recover damages for the Bitcoin he stole.
legendary
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Why doesn't stunna publish a list of Hufflepuff's PrimeDice alts so we can see if any of them match any forum handles?

That would probably not do any good. Even if he was using any of the alts, the chances of his identity being known through any of his accounts is very less. And even if does become known, there would be nothing Stunna would be able to do against him. Specially when there is not legal help that he will get.
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Why doesn't stunna publish a list of Hufflepuff's PrimeDice alts so we can see if any of them match any forum handles?
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How did he get the same server seed on two accounts?

I don't think they can. Server seeds are usually generated randomly by these gambling sites, and each user should have a unique seed. Did Stunna confirm, that 2 accounts had the possibility of having the same server seed ?


Stunna only said that all accounts used  by huffle have the same seeds(server and player) i dont know how huffle did that or maybe he used some software for it

Maybe its a exploit or PD Backends vulnerability

Stunna said that it is an exploit and it is already patched so one could do that again

So what happens in the video it is because of an exploit?
I was thinking since I saw it, he was really lucky... Undecided
What happened with that bunch of bitcoins?

He is probably living in a mansion now and living his life because of PD's great donation Smiley
He now live like a Dan Bilzerian Cheesy well dan.
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How did he get the same server seed on two accounts?

I don't think they can. Server seeds are usually generated randomly by these gambling sites, and each user should have a unique seed. Did Stunna confirm, that 2 accounts had the possibility of having the same server seed ?


Stunna only said that all accounts used  by huffle have the same seeds(server and player) i dont know how huffle did that or maybe he used some software for it

Maybe its a exploit or PD Backends vulnerability

Stunna said that it is an exploit and it is already patched so one could do that again

So what happens in the video it is because of an exploit?
I was thinking since I saw it, he was really lucky... Undecided
What happened with that bunch of bitcoins?

He is probably living in a mansion now and living his life because of PD's great donation Smiley
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