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Topic: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM - page 19. (Read 23358 times)

legendary
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Don't worry it was just a sarcastic conversation on the troll box.


95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:14 UTC   presstab at 10K you gonna dump your million ?

109 presstab
2014-10-13 19:56:40 UTC   waxo, once it is 1 USD per coin i will sell my million

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:52 UTC   presstab, ahahaha Smiley

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:58:32 UTC   presstab, if it hits 1 USD id be very happy

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:58:54 UTC   even 0.10 everyone is happy

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:59:58 UTC   waxo, really hoping for .25 cent

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:00:27 UTC   bitmaster, 25 cents would be great

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:00:55 UTC   bitmaster if HYP hits 1 USD im going to be throwing a party

7 CrazyLoaf
2014-10-13 20:01:00 UTC   there's no reason to ever sell all your HYP

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:01:40 UTC   if HYP hits 1 USD I will fly the trollboxers out to my penthouse and let them all drive me lambo

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 20:02:07 UTC   presstab, so much Yes!

6 Kingdiem1019
2014-10-13 20:02:24 UTC   presstab, im holding you to that...

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:04:04 UTC   If hyp hits 1 USD I im taking all my friends (A huge 2 people) on an epic night full of strip clubs, good food, beer and any thing else anybody could think o

7 mrhangjas5
2014-10-13 20:06:26 UTC   If hyp hits 1 dollar i buy my own house and some land to be self sufficient with my own food and stuff.

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legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
You all have my word guaranteed 100% i have no clue who the OP is !
But i DID find his info he posted to be a revelation and i think it's pertinent info for all potential users or existing users of HYP.
Take it as you will..
Me ? i took it badly and it seems to me *most did also.. which why the price was decimated on Poloniex.
So if everyone knew and it did not matter then why did the price tank with clear cases of dumping ? explain that to me ?

Did the OP post false information ?
Seems to me he was bringing to light info that some HYP fanboys / devs etc were making a point of avoiding.

I often just ask devs /supporters on chat boxs about their coin for info INSTEAD of reading an ANN topic
and they had soooo many chances to bring up what the OP said but they AVOIDED mentioning any of it !

This is NOT my fault personally (the recent HYP drama / controversy)
and the fact i asked questions about it does not make me a Troll or mean i deserve to be trolled while mods watch !
edit: seems like someone seen me ask and then went digging...

I ask questions about every coin i ever seen on every chat box on every exchange since i started this and SO DO ALL OF YOU !

So cut the crap and gimme a break and quit trying to twist shit around to hide your dirty laundry and make me out to be the bad guy here..
I didn't make the damn coin and i was not a big bag holder who dumped on the little guys last night and today.. maybe be mad at them HYP guys ?

ALSO.. i have had no contact with the OP publicly or privately anywhere on the internet.. we have not talked once !

edit:
and the info the OP posted is bad.. REALLY BAD !
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I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


HYP was created mainly as an experiment for TRK holders since the original TRK dev bailed due to personal reasons. Everyone in the TRK community was aware of HYP. Also about your concern of devs hoarding TRK before the fork. TRK was never an "expensive" coin to be bought. Even now the volume is very low.

The price of HYP was also never very high until it hit Polo. That too the price increase is a recent development of new people wanting to get into HYP. So all your comments have no base.
sr. member
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We are the first to program your future (c)
This guy is inadequate. There should be a mechanism at Bitcointalk to deal with such offenders. 
legendary
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crypto-enthusiast since 2012
Billotronic, how long did it take you to write all that? I guess if an anonymous posting on a Bitcoin internet forum is enough to get you this riled up, maybe there's more here than you're willing to admit.

Thanks for all the personal attacks as well, really goes a long way in showing your true colors.

You might be okay with noobs buying this shitcoin for 7000 or 8000 sats each when the developers and their tightly knit circle jerk buddies scammed their way into millions of free coin. I'm not.

THIS !

and thank you for posting because it's only fair new users are aware of the info you posted.
admit it guys you don't think it's important info ?

who ever you are OP i got your back and these little pricks can suck a fucking dick.
they can stfu and go back to defending Noble Coin or Super Coin or something guess who made this fucking scam coins ?

Obvious scammers are obvious .

hey! that would be very fun if you both could be shown as Online at the same time, no?

Spoetnik, can you please use another computer or a vm to log in as your brand new Hypnotique bct account?

Obvious FUDers are obvious .
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Billotronic, how long did it take you to write all that? I guess if an anonymous posting on a Bitcoin internet forum is enough to get you this riled up, maybe there's more here than you're willing to admit.

Thanks for all the personal attacks as well, really goes a long way in showing your true colors.

You might be okay with noobs buying this shitcoin for 7000 or 8000 sats each when the developers and their tightly knit circle jerk buddies scammed their way into millions of free coin. I'm not.

THIS !

and thank you for posting because it's only fair new users are aware of the info you posted.
admit it guys you don't think it's important info ?

who ever you are OP i got your back and these little pricks can suck a fucking dick.
they can stfu and go back to defending Noble Coin or Super Coin or something guess who made this fucking scam coins ?

Obvious scammers are obvious .
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha

nice find i had no idea..

no wonder after 1,000 convo's with those spamming bag holders they avoided mentioning that !
not even one fucking time did any of those fucking scummy fucktard scammers mention that..

thanks for the info i will make fucking damn sure people know about this scammy idiot bullshit !
they wouldn't have hid that info from me when i asked about the coin 100 fucking times unless they KNEW it was bad !

HYP tard's you are seriously fucked trust me Wink

LOL this guy!

Why are you even pretending you didn't know it was forked from TRK? I was the one who set you straight in the polo trollbox when you stupidly tried to claim initially that HYP was an IPO coin lol.

Maybe you should take your tinfoil hat off now and then and stop sitting at home all day watching re-runs of the moomins. I hear getting a job is a healthy investment of time rather than spending all your time on here FUDing coins that actually have something going for them, as opposed to JPC <--really though?!?

WRONG and i talked to you last night again on the Box...
eat shit .
your trying to bad mouth me and twist shit around to play damage control.

i said it was an IP0 maybe 3 or 4 days ago and you said it's not..
i said well that is what the guys on the chat box said when i asked specifically..
then you said and i quote.. "it's a fork"
you mentioned nothing in the slightest about TruckCoin or any other info at all but EXACTLY what i quoted above and not 1 word more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then i said well was it mined on launch ?
you sat there and hide from me pussy.. ignoring me !
as did the dev and all the cheerleaders
AGAIN !
I said then well if it was not "mined" on launch then close enough..
i consider any coin that is NOT mined on launch to be an IPO coin of sorts no matter what you want to call them.

anyone with half a brain will believe me.. you guys about 30 times avoided answering my questions when i asked about it.
every effort was made to hide the info the OP posted and you guys know it so cut the fucking crap PERIOD.

you got some nerve brat  Cheesy
lying sack of shit..
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\m/
I'm with HyperStake

 Cool
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Agreed. Hypnotique comes accross as a whiny, pathetic tool. This thread is a waste of time.
legendary
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SaluS - (SLS)
This whole thread is a joke, why are you guys feeding this troll.

Not sure why he even started this thread, maybe cheap shares from FUD. Everything he mentions is false.

Those who are interested in what this coin, dev and the community has to offer, simply join ##Hyperstake and stop reading every nonsense a troll has to post.   (can't believe I wasted my time and fed the troll by replying)
legendary
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Blockchain Developer
Just read the first version of the OP, it isn't that complicated.

Depends on how long will the grace period be (grace period: time between availability of the HYP wallet and actual forking). I can't tell you the time now. It won't be weeks, that's for sure.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


But I was determined to get HYP going, and to have a coin that would finally be the economic characteristics I desired, the QT base that I could build an advanced coin control around, etc. I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!  But decided that I would go with the minimal grace period.

Honestly looking back, if I knew HYP would have this many users I would have given a bigger grace period. But lets be honest... I already had my TRK, it wouldn't have changed the quantity I held for any reason. Maybe others could have grabbed more. And at the time I was something like the 8th largest wallet when we forked, I continued to buy more after we got listed on coin-swap, so yes I continued to put my own skin in the game. I know David has as well.

Is this a scam? Definitely not, or else why the hell would I have all of these instead of cashing out aggressively? (and also a side point, the reason I hold so much is so that I don't have to be paranoid of someone trying to gain enough coin weight to cause problems with the coin).

Should David have any responsibility for the lack of grace time, absolutely not. Feel free to blame my impatience, excitement, anxiousness, etc. But honestly I would have the same quantity of coins either way, I guess the only person that missed out is you the oh so mysterious noob account.
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Billotronic, how long did it take you to write all that? I guess if an anonymous posting on a Bitcoin internet forum is enough to get you this riled up, maybe there's more here than you're willing to admit.

Thanks for all the personal attacks as well, really goes a long way in showing your true colors.

You might be okay with noobs buying this shitcoin for 7000 or 8000 sats each when the developers and their tightly knit circle jerk buddies scammed their way into millions of free coin. I'm not.
legendary
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crypto-enthusiast since 2012
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


 Shocked Huh  why is that a problem and a scam that the devs of this coin are also bagholders ( aka the top ones on the rich list) Huh i don't understand where you go with that. and i'm not even holding much or showing in that top rich list for that coin.

I mean, i prefer to know that those who :

- develop the coin features;
- create new opportunities;
- help adoption of the coin;
- help the community;
- answer all questions;
- support those in the community that want to go one step above to also develop tools and stuff around this coin.

 ...have a big sum of the coins to show they are fully behind it, no? hell, HYP even have a Rich List with names besides the top owners, so you know what they have and what moves they make.

I think this whole attack is retarded. I kinda understand why you created a new nickname to post this, cuz it doesn't make any sense and is a shame

 
legendary
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why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



What does my coding have to do with anything? None to answer your question.

I don't even need to ask to know that you're one of the big bagholders that got in on this scam early. Typical...

Very relevant because you have no idea what it takes to modify a code base.

Bagholder : In U.S. financial slang, a bagholder is a shareholder left holding shares of worthless stocks.

Scam :
noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
verb (used with object), scammed, scamming.
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.

Let me rewrite that for you so you do not look so ignorant:

"I already know from my extensive time in the ##hyperstake chan that you are an early joiner of the hyperstake experiment and also one of the most generous people with your coins because of it."

There, that is better

Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Oh boy. Now I know you can use the internet or else you wouldn't be on these forums, so in the future, please lookup the meaning of the words you are misusing.

I'm thinking that the issue here is no one sent you a memo about it... or you really are that ignorant about the things you are talking about. So come here, sit on my lap and let me tell you a story about cryptocoins...

TRK for the sake of argument, officially died on July 5th with a post from the original TRK dev telling us what we already knew, he didn't have the time for TRK.

THE VERY NEXT DAY and surprise, the very next post is from presstab announcing his plans to fork.

At this juncture in time TRK was next to valueless and had no future. HyperStake at least offered an opportunity to take those valueless coins and see if presstabs and davids economic experiment would crash and burn or succeed. It was not a hard decision to make for many trk holders. The beginning was rough. Between the buggy code and the lack of mature coins to ensure a smooth blockchain, those who hung on were in for an interesting experience to say the least. Fast forward to today and 197 commits latter, and HyperStake is not only a very fun and welcoming community to be a part of, but also raising the bar for future PoS coins.

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I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

Then it might be best if you stopped talking about things you do not comprehend. Your personal attacks on credibility against 'these so-called developers' again reflects on your ignorance of coin project creation and managing and would do yourself a grand service to shy away from such remarks in your future postings.
sr. member
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We are the first to program your future (c)
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Think of it as of ICO for those who made something useful for TRK community. It wasn't you, I know. If you would have follow this community, you would have been aware of the fork. And that's all. Call it how do you like. These facts worth nothing. How do you think the developers are motivated to work almost 24/7? Just to please you? Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials). It's not communism, we are not obliged to inform you about our intentions to make a product. You can buy it after release or not buy, its up to you. These "so-called developers" are people with a serious reputation and great ideals. If you don't know it, it's your fault, because you won't convince anybody. Give me your facts, I want to know what exactly do you call a scam so confidently.

So you wanna say an only insider-known closed "ICO" is no SCAM? It is. And developers dont have to work 24/7 to fork a coin, add some features and change some parameters.

I have already said what I wanted to say. And developers don't only "add some features". Learn more about HYP.
sr. member
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Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Think of it as of ICO for those who made something useful for TRK community. It wasn't you, I know. If you would have follow this community, you would have been aware of the fork. And that's all. Call it how do you like. These facts worth nothing. How do you think the developers are motivated to work almost 24/7? Just to please you? Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials). It's not communism, we are not obliged to inform you about our intentions to make a product. You can buy it after release or not buy, its up to you. These "so-called developers" are people with a serious reputation and great ideals. If you don't know it, it's your fault, because you won't convince anybody. Give me your facts, I want to know what exactly do you call a scam so confidently.

So you wanna say an only insider-known closed "ICO" is no SCAM? It is. And developers dont have to work 24/7 to fork a coin, add some features and change some parameters.
sr. member
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We are the first to program your future (c)
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Think of it as of ICO for those who made something useful for TRK community. It wasn't you, I know. If you would have follow this community, you would have been aware of the fork. And that's all. Call it how do you like. These facts worth nothing. How do you think the developers are motivated to work almost 24/7? Just to please you? Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials). It's not communism, we are not obliged to inform you about our intentions to make a product. You can buy it after release or not buy, its up to you. These "so-called developers" are people with a serious reputation and great ideals. If you don't know it, it's your fault, because you won't convince anybody. Give me your facts, I want to know what exactly do you call a scam so confidently.
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Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.
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