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Topic: I Think I Got Screwed out of 5 BTC - page 3. (Read 7493 times)

legendary
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December 21, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
2.)  It is equally ignorant/offensive to assume that someone should use GMT or UTC simply because x number of people believe it is the most-common point of reference.

While UTC is the only Universally Coordinated Time, it is true that there are numerous other possible and asinine assumptions one could have made. But either (1) you assumed without question that your own timezone rather than at least 24 other possibilities was the official definitive zone, or (2) you believed that there would be at least 24 different potential sets of rules subject to each individual player's location. Please, which delusion seduced you, or is there some third assumption?

Tell me, since it was not specifically articulated: did you assume that $4 represented four US dollars?

Why is that? Because you live in the United States? What about Canadians? Could they have assumed Canadian dollars without question? Mexicans might have assumed four pesos, as they too use the $ sign. I'm sure our Australian, central American, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwanese friends were equally baffled.

Please tell me why I, a U.S. citizen, who because of having ready internet access should be one of the most likely people to know what UTC means, had never even heard of UTC until this game?  What's more ridiculous is that people keep shrieking on about "UTC!  You should have assumed UTC!"  when the game itself didn't even assume UTC, even after the rule change.

In reponse to your point (1), actually, I assumed all time zones because I assumed that each guess was made according to whatever timezone the player uses.  This leads to addressing your 2nd point (2) because it means that there is only 1 set of rules.  A good rule structure both (1) distributes evenly to all players and (2) takes into account individual circumstance.  The laws of the universe certainly act this way (gravity and light, anyone?).  According to my assumption, each person makes a guess according to their individual timezone, but the forum itself serves as an objective reference point to determine who guessed first (you can simply view the order in which the guesses were posted).  So, in the event that any 2 people guessed correctly according to their time zone as was the case between me and Goat, all you have to do is see whose post appeared first in the thread.  That was me.  Hence I won.  I'm not even going to explain again why the rule change completely affected the statistical nature of the game, which is a separate issue.  In any case, neither of your 2 points represent any "delusion" that "seduced" me.

Yes, I assumed $4 represented 4 US dollars.  Didn't many people?  Isn't $ the symbol for the US dollar?   I didn't know $ was used to denote yen or some other currency.  

But, your point is good.  In fact, I'm sure many of the people who played the game assumed the same thing, but flamed me anyway for my assumption of local time zone (which is MUCH different from assuming US central time).
sr. member
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December 21, 2011, 09:51:13 PM
I could give a rat's ass who agrees with me. The fact of the matter is that your whole sob-session is completely classless. I view it akin to a child throwing a fit in a Walmart toy section, except the child is an adult and the toy section is a bunch of people who don't give a fuck and are laughing at you.
legendary
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December 21, 2011, 09:42:49 PM
Just because the world thinks I am wrong doesn't mean I am! You're all just jealous! I do what I want!

My name is RandyFolds!   I can shout nonsense!  I'm clearly right and clearly hilarious because more people side with me and are saying the same kinds of things I'm saying!  I have approval!  I knew that I must be smarter than I originally thought!
sr. member
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December 21, 2011, 09:42:32 PM
2.)  It is equally ignorant/offensive to assume that someone should use GMT or UTC simply because x number of people believe it is the most-common point of reference.

While UTC is the only Universal Coordinated Time, it is true that there are numerous other possible and asinine assumptions one could have made. But either (1) you assumed without question that your own timezone rather than at least 24 other possibilities was the official definitive zone, or (2) you believed that there would be at least 24 different potential sets of rules subject to each individual player's location. Please, which delusion seduced you, or is there some third assumption?

I'm curious, since it was not specifically articulated: did you assume that $4 represented four US dollars?

Why is that? Because you live in the United States? What about Canadians? Could they have assumed Canadian dollars without question? Mexicans might have assumed four pesos, as they too use the $ sign. I'm sure our Australian, central American, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwanese friends were equally baffled.
sr. member
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December 21, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
Just because the world thinks I am wrong doesn't mean I am! You're all just jealous! I do what I want!
legendary
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December 21, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Just re-use this thread, like this:

This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa.  Life is so unfair.  Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me.  He OWES me.  I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).

Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics.  I need to go wash my hands now.

You seem to be confused about who is mocking you...bwagner is not Bruce, fella.

You seem to be confused and think I'm actually offended by anybody on this forum that "mocks" me regarding this situation.

I could be threatened with being banned for life from Bitcointalk, and it won't change my position.

I'm very comfortable and happy with my stance.  Just because 50 some-odd people disagree doesn't mean any one of them is correct.  

You know what you sound like...a typical american ultra-entitled college kid.

You know what you sound like?

Someone who throws out cliche garbage because it sounds good while thinking to yourself, "Ooooo, I got him that time...I hit him with cultural insensitivity."  Please, I do social work and the majority of my clients are minority clients, and I've been praised by the clients themselves for my cultural sensitivity, most notably my ability to listen and not judge.  

You don't know jack.  Quit being upset because I was graciously given 7 BTC by people who either sympathized or agreed with me.   Two can play this faulty assumption game.  

Edit:  Did you know that those who spend more time using online forms of communication are more likely to extract information or emotions from a conversation that are actually nonexistant?  Language is important, and I recommend you pay more attention to what is actually said vs. finding ways to infer fallacious nonsense for the sole purpose of antagonizing me.
sr. member
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December 21, 2011, 09:30:29 PM
Just re-use this thread, like this:

This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa.  Life is so unfair.  Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me.  He OWES me.  I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).

Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics.  I need to go wash my hands now.

You seem to be confused about who is mocking you...bwagner is not Bruce, fella.

You seem to be confused and think I'm actually offended by anybody on this forum that "mocks" me regarding this situation.

I could be threatened with being banned for life from Bitcointalk, and it won't change my position.

I'm very comfortable and happy with my stance.  Just because 50 some-odd people disagree doesn't mean any one of them is correct. 

You know what you sound like...a typical american ultra-entitled college kid.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
December 21, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Just re-use this thread, like this:

This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa.  Life is so unfair.  Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me.  He OWES me.  I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).

Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics.  I need to go wash my hands now.

You seem to be confused about who is mocking you...bwagner is not Bruce, fella.

You seem to be confused and think I'm actually offended by anybody on this forum that "mocks" me regarding this situation.

I could be threatened with being banned for life from Bitcointalk, and it won't change my position.

I'm very comfortable and happy with my stance.  Just because 50 some-odd people disagree doesn't mean any one of them is correct. 
legendary
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
December 21, 2011, 09:19:41 PM
Not Bruce - just give me 10 BTC and I will leave this thread Smiley

I'm happy for you that you're not Bruce lol.
Me too!  BTW he is no relation either!
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
December 21, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Not Bruce - just give me 10 BTC and I will leave this thread Smiley

I'm happy for you that you're not Bruce lol.
sr. member
Activity: 448
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December 21, 2011, 09:09:41 PM
Just re-use this thread, like this:

This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa.  Life is so unfair.  Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me.  He OWES me.  I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).

Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics.  I need to go wash my hands now.

You seem to be confused about who is mocking you...bwagner is not Bruce, fella.
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1137
All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
December 21, 2011, 07:55:40 PM
Not Bruce - just give me 10 BTC and I will leave this thread Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
December 21, 2011, 07:54:18 PM
Just re-use this thread, like this:

This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa.  Life is so unfair.  Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me.  He OWES me.  I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).

Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics.  I need to go wash my hands now.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
December 21, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
Can I also get 7BTC if I start a whiner thread?  Roll Eyes

If, at the very least, you think you are correct and will argue it relentlessly, then yes....yes you can.

FTFY

Thank you for taking the time to do so.
legendary
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
December 21, 2011, 07:52:53 PM
Just re-use this thread, like this:

This one time (at band camp), this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa.  Life is so unfair.  Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me.  He OWES me.  I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).
legendary
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Keep it real
December 21, 2011, 07:50:46 PM
Can I also get 7BTC if I start a whiner thread?  Roll Eyes

If, at the very least, you think you are correct and will argue it relentlessly, then yes....yes you can.

FTFY
legendary
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December 21, 2011, 07:45:55 PM
Can I also get 7BTC if I start a whiner thread?  Roll Eyes

If, at the very least, you are correct, then yes....yes you can.
legendary
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December 21, 2011, 07:39:17 PM
Can I also get 7BTC if I start a whiner thread?  Roll Eyes
legendary
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December 21, 2011, 07:09:15 PM
I'll refrain from calling you a whiner.


You do whine an awful lot though.

 Angry ......................   Cheesy
hero member
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December 21, 2011, 07:07:05 PM
I'll refrain from calling you a whiner.


You do whine an awful lot though.
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