Topic: I Think I Got Screwed out of 5 BTC - page 4. (Read 7493 times)

It's pretty interesting that people are getting on my case about "not assuming UTC" or "not assuming GMT" when:  1.)  Apparently there are different opinions among community members about what the "obvious assumption" is,  and 2.)  It is equally ignorant/offensive to assume that someone should use GMT or UTC simply because x number of people believe it is the most-common point of reference.  If anything, I think assuming the person's local time-zone as a point of reference is the least ignorant and least offensive solution, for it does not "force" anything upon anyone.

Apparently, if there are at least 3 different opinions floating around (those that agree with me and both those that faulted me for not assuming GMT and UTC), then obviously it's not such a clear cut situation after all.

The amount of time invested by some members of the community in calling me a "whiner" when I, myself, have refrained from name-calling and have remained very civil in the matter given the level of scrutiny I have received (albeit my first couple of posts after OldEngineer proclaimed Goat as the Winner were not as civil...I thought OldEngineer didn't care to check far back enough to see that I had won), does not an angel make.  Moreover, claiming that my "karma" is kicking my ass and I don't even know it could be quite far from the truth...after all, maybe karma is with me on this one and thats why it sent me 7 BTC and not 5 BTC.  Anyone care to assume they know what universal justice is?

All I have done is continue to repeat and defend my decision according to the rules of the game in the order that they were implemented.

I stand my ground and I am content with what I have said, content with my position, and content with where the original 5 (10) BTC in question ended up.  

Continue to flame if you wish, but please, really bad assumptions, tangential arguments, ad-homs, hypothetical propositions, and otherwise do not make you smarter or cooler simply because a lot of other people, though they may happen to agree with you, are also using them.

I would like to remind OldEngineer that where I live, the first day of the year is determined by the first break of sun above the horizon after the year's longest night. That can be wildly different depending on one's latitude, altitude above southern mountains, etc. So, for example, it is now the 97th hour of 17 December, when the sun last rose just a pin hole of light above the small mountain to my south. My neighbor has a nice view of the Labrador Sea and she saw the sun rise on 18 December. None the less, OldEngineer, you should have considered my specific location and circumstances when formulating your fun game.

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My first thought when I started reading this thread was to post "If I send you the 5 BTC will you STFU?"

But then I decided that if we give in to his temper tantrum that will just teach him to throw more temper tantrums.

So now he has won by tantrum and only time will tell.  We will see how he responds next time life is unfair.

Dear Serge, Crypt_Current, and Zhoutong,

I commend you for your generosity, but you've perfectly demonstrated 'moral hazard'. Now any immature poor loser will see a profitable incentive to whine in the future. If you don't want the pigeons shitting on your head, stop feeding them.

Thanks for the opinion, Theymos.  I disagree, but thanks.

Well not unless our Cassandra actually *knew* the price action down to the hour. Other's were guessing, but as always our Cassandra got shafted because no one (except Zhou) believes her.

This would be like playing blackjack in a casino, busting on a hand, and then blaming your loss on the player who took a lower card just before you, the card you would have gotten had he not taken it.

It wasn't his fault.  You had an equal overall chance regardless.

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While you are clearly the most important center of the world, you are not the entirety of the internet.

For example, by law in the UK (Interpretation Act 1978, section 9) whenever an expression of time occurs in an act, deed, or other instrument, the time referred to shall be held to be Greenwich mean time.

It should be noted that the standard time 'zone' of the internet is UTC - nearly but not unambiguously synonymous with GMT. Furthermore 19/12/11 is an ambiguous dyslexic notation, to be replaced with international standard (ISO 8601), such as 2011-12-19.

I see absolutely no fault on the part of old_engineer. Probably I would have done exactly the same thing if it was my contest and I had forgotten to specify a timezone.

It could be more easily argued that you were in violation of the contest rules because you did not specify a single exact date. A date given without a timezone could apply to multiple real dates.

I have credited the 5 BTC to you.

Thanks!

How very generous of you!

dfjJ3-cnapd@  is my username. 

If the joint had any class whatsoever, he would take the now 7 btc, and send it to Goat to help the orphans. Then we could all happily say that the greater good of humankind shown through in this episode and everybody came out a winner. Especially the orphans.

What say you TJ? Big enough man to step up?

LOL, I will take 5BTC and spend it on Bitcoinica if you send it to me Zhoutong... To be honest though I don't think I would put any of my own coins on there.

As for joint just take the offer. You lost the bet so deal with it. Zhoutong is being very generous here even though he had nothing to do with this contest.

This is marketing at its finest.

I understand what the original 5 BTC means to you. But well, why can't there be a tie? You deserve it as much as Goat did, and old_engineer wasn't wrong at all to give out only 5 BTC for the contest.

Just post your username and I will send 5 BTC to you immediately. If you don't want to trade on Bitcoinica or don't like it, just withdraw it right away. :-)

That's unique...are you offering me a 5 BTC account as a promo or something?  If you genuinely think I deserve it, then I really want to thank you, but I only truly care about the original 5 BTC.  It is up to you.

In either case, you are very kind.

zhoutong, at first I wasn't sure about you, but now you've got the full 'Folds Seal of Approval'. Fucking A, you've been on fire the past few days!

the_joint,

Welcome to Bitcoinica! I will send you the f**king 5 BTC to your account for you to start trading. You made a pretty great guess!

(This is off-topic forum, so I posted this off-topic stuff.)

Wow.  This thread got relocated a second time.  That's how crazy it is.