ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 102.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 03, 2023, 12:06:40 PM

Retired willingly as it was a practice match and wasn't a List A match, which means stats in such matches never add up to your tally. Yeah, it was a belter and Babar had to come because top order didn't use this opportunity well.

In general, these kinds of matches are useless, it's just an upgraded version of the net session because teams are allowed to have 15 men playing squad for every match. There are no caps on bowlers or batters, teams can even field 8-9 pure batters or bowl as much as bowlers, that's why Australians used 8 bowlers and 3 of them were Warner-Smith-Marnus.

Babar Azam was suppose to take rest in yesterday's match. When he saw his team under the captaincy of Khan was not playing well he captained for the last 15 overs. When the batting line-up failed he went to bat fir his team. A good captain never leaves his team when it requires him.

Australia in the meantime took the match as a practice match. Warner, Smith and Marnus bowled lose balls, yet they managed to win the practice match. Not a good sign for Pakistan and Pakistani fans

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Quote from: Patrol69 on October 04, 2023, 01:49:24 AM

The fact that the two warm-up matches were abandoned did not matter to India as all the players in the Indian XI had enough experience of playing in every stadium in India, so the two warm-up matches were not very important for them in the run-up to the ODI World Cup.

India has more than 50 international stadiums and India has no concept of fixed grounds for any bilateral series. The rest of the cricketing world has a fixed venue policy.

Because of this, hosting rights are based on a rotation basis so that every State board could get a chance to host bilateral matches. If we leave major stadiums then a majority of stadiums hardly gets more than 1 match per year or on some occasion it takes years (unless we count IPL season), so having "enough experience of playing in every stadium in India" argument doesn't apply here.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on October 04, 2023, 01:49:24 AM

The fact that the two warm-up matches were abandoned did not matter to India as all the players in the Indian XI had enough experience of playing in every stadium in India, so the two warm-up matches were not very important for them in the run-up to the ODI World Cup.

Most of the members of the Asia Cup tournament have qualified for the World Cup tournament and a series win against Australia in the first two matches will undoubtedly strengthen India's players, so I think India is fully prepared to play in the main stage of the World Cup.

Most of the warm-up matches are abandoned due to rain and fans will not regret it much, but if the main stage match is abandoned due to rain, it will be a lot of regret for the fans and the players.
Depending on the venue, some matches may be affected by rain, but most matches should not be affected by rain.

Heavy rains are predicted in cities such as Kolkata, Bengaluru and Guwahati for the next week or so, and this will definitely have an impact on the group stage matches in the world cup. These are unseasonal rains, but even then the scheduling of the world cup raised a few eyebrows even before the first ball was bowled in the warmup matches. I don't have any concern for the latter stages of the tournament, as the weather conditions are likely to improve from mid-October onwards. But the next 1-2 weeks may witness a lot of rain in India.

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The Match between India and Netherlands has been abandoned due to heavy rain in the warm-up game in Thiruvananthapuram. India misses out both the warm-up matches due to rain before the World Cup. Indian captain Rohit Sharma already said that they don't need warm-ups beacuse players are in form after winning Asia cup and Australia Series but its very unfortunate for Team India because Both of the warm-ups India vs England abandoned due to rain in Guwahati and India vs Netherlands went abandoned without a ball bowled.

I am not sure whether the Indians will be too upset about it. They had just completed an ODI series against Australia in India. So that series should act as warmup ahead of the world cup. Teams such as England and Netherlands have reasons to be upset though. I am really concerned about the main tournament. As per weather predictions, the rains are expected to continue for at least a few more days, especially in Southern and Eastern India. And this may negatively impact some of the group matches in the world cup.

The fact that the two warm-up matches were abandoned did not matter to India as all the players in the Indian XI had enough experience of playing in every stadium in India, so the two warm-up matches were not very important for them in the run-up to the ODI World Cup.

Most of the members of the Asia Cup tournament have qualified for the World Cup tournament and a series win against Australia in the first two matches will undoubtedly strengthen India's players, so I think India is fully prepared to play in the main stage of the World Cup.

Most of the warm-up matches are abandoned due to rain and fans will not regret it much, but if the main stage match is abandoned due to rain, it will be a lot of regret for the fans and the players.
Depending on the venue, some matches may be affected by rain, but most matches should not be affected by rain.

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Quote from: Jateng on October 03, 2023, 05:26:51 PM

The Match between India and Netherlands has been abandoned due to heavy rain in the warm-up game in Thiruvananthapuram. India misses out both the warm-up matches due to rain before the World Cup. Indian captain Rohit Sharma already said that they don't need warm-ups beacuse players are in form after winning Asia cup and Australia Series but its very unfortunate for Team India because Both of the warm-ups India vs England abandoned due to rain in Guwahati and India vs Netherlands went abandoned without a ball bowled.

I am not sure whether the Indians will be too upset about it. They had just completed an ODI series against Australia in India. So that series should act as warmup ahead of the world cup. Teams such as England and Netherlands have reasons to be upset though. I am really concerned about the main tournament. As per weather predictions, the rains are expected to continue for at least a few more days, especially in Southern and Eastern India. And this may negatively impact some of the group matches in the world cup.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on October 03, 2023, 01:06:55 PM

Today scheduled matches were three, but we have two as completed with India vs Netherlands at Thiruvananthapuram Abandoned due to weather and with this India lost their both warm-up games due to rains and not able to have any practice but still things are good and positive for them in coming event because their mostly players are well inform after playing Asia Cup and home series against Australia.

Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan which was also effected due to rain have good entertainment for the both teams with after winning toss Afghanistan choose to field first, and they have done good job against Sri Lanka even captain Kusal Mendis having good inning, and they were able to score 294 which was good target but due to rain this was reduced and Afghanistan were able to have achieved this without any problem which is good for them because with this win now things looking interesting for few teams which are coming as minor in this event but have good chance for upsetting any team which will take them weak.

Finally ICC World Cup Warm up matches ended and I really enjoyed these matches and check all team performances and some team did not reveal their real performance because this warm up matches will not effect in World Cup Tournament. Nearly all matches of this series were affect by rain and disturb players of all team and also affect in batting pitch. Yesterday match Afghanistan and Sri Lanka also delay some time due to heavy rain and then started Sri Lanka team give good target to Afghanistan team and they failed down to chase it. Sri Lanka won this 2nd last match of warm up series by DLS Method and also 6 wickets, 23 balls were left. Hopefully, Rain will not disturb in World Cup Tournament matches.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on October 03, 2023, 01:06:55 PM

Today scheduled matches were three, but we have two as completed with India vs Netherlands at Thiruvananthapuram Abandoned due to weather and with this India lost their both warm-up games due to rains and not able to have any practice but still things are good and positive for them in coming event because their mostly players are well inform after playing Asia Cup and home series against Australia.

The Match between India and Netherlands has been abandoned due to heavy rain in the warm-up game in Thiruvananthapuram. India misses out both the warm-up matches due to rain before the World Cup. Indian captain Rohit Sharma already said that they don't need warm-ups beacuse players are in form after winning Asia cup and Australia Series but its very unfortunate for Team India because Both of the warm-ups India vs England abandoned due to rain in Guwahati and India vs Netherlands went abandoned without a ball bowled.

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Today scheduled matches were three, but we have two as completed with India vs Netherlands at Thiruvananthapuram Abandoned due to weather and with this India lost their both warm-up games due to rains and not able to have any practice but still things are good and positive for them in coming event because their mostly players are well inform after playing Asia Cup and home series against Australia.

Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan which was also effected due to rain have good entertainment for the both teams with after winning toss Afghanistan choose to field first, and they have done good job against Sri Lanka even captain Kusal Mendis having good inning, and they were able to score 294 which was good target but due to rain this was reduced and Afghanistan were able to have achieved this without any problem which is good for them because with this win now things looking interesting for few teams which are coming as minor in this event but have good chance for upsetting any team which will take them weak.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on October 03, 2023, 11:28:57 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM

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Finally, he's retired.

I did not watch the match but I watched the scoreboard only. It says Babar Azam retd out. Did he retire willingly or did he get some injury and then we see the retired hurt? It seems the pitches have nothing for the bowlers! Pakistani tail-enders did some good batting practice while their top order could have played a little better because they knew there was nothing to lose in this match.

Anyway, one more day to go for the biggest tournament of this year. While every country's supporter expecting for the trophy, we Bangladeshis expect Bangladesh to win at least four matches.

Retired willingly as it was a practice match and wasn't a List A match, which means stats in such matches never add up to your tally. Yeah, it was a belter and Babar had to come because top order didn't use this opportunity well.

In general, these kinds of matches are useless, it's just an upgraded version of the net session because teams are allowed to have 15 men playing squad for every match. There are no caps on bowlers or batters, teams can even field 8-9 pure batters or bowl as much as bowlers, that's why Australians used 8 bowlers and 3 of them were Warner-Smith-Marnus.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM

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Finally, he's retired.

I did not watch the match but I watched the scoreboard only. It says Babar Azam retd out. Did he retire willingly or did he get some injury and then we see the retired hurt? It seems the pitches have nothing for the bowlers! Pakistani tail-enders did some good batting practice while their top order could have played a little better because they knew there was nothing to lose in this match.

Anyway, one more day to go for the biggest tournament of this year. While every country's supporter expecting for the trophy, we Bangladeshis expect Bangladesh to win at least four matches.

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Quote from: Bureau on October 03, 2023, 07:22:45 AM

Pakistan VS Australia

What happened to Pakistan? They were bowling quite well before Maxwell arrived. I thought they would be able to restrict Australia to a small score but they managed to allow them to go beyond 350. The lower batting order of Australia is incredible even when their middle order does not work these guys, Maxwell, Green, and Inglish can become fatal for the opposition. It is not an easy target to chase for Pakistan, they would need exceptional batting from Babar today. Since it is a practice match if Pakistan loses this match it won't affect them in any way.

Australia won the toss and decided to bat first in warm maatch in Hyderabad. Australia posted a good total in front of Pakistan by scoring 351 runs on the board in loss of 7 wickets in 50 overs. Pakistan very poor bowling performance especially Haris Rauf proved himself that he doesn't want to bowl well against strong teams like Australia,New Zealand and England. Iftikhar Ahmed walks back with an outstanding innings of 83 runs in 85 balls and Babar Azam score also walk back after playing a Outstanding performance score 90 runs in just 59 balls. I hope Pakistan will win the match against Australia.

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I don't think Pakistan is taking this as a practice match, they are batting seriously. Not sure why Babar is still batting, his form is not bad and already had enough game time today.

Ideally, he should retire and test other batters so that they can have some batting practice in pressure situations, that's what warm up matches are for. He won't achieve anything by scoring when Warner, Smith and Marnus are bowling.

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Finally, he's retired.

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Quote from: Unknown Op on October 03, 2023, 08:58:58 AM

I also felt that what happened to Pakistan team. In first match of this warm up matches tournament then we see their performance was so remarkable and give huge target against New Zealand that's a different thing they had lost that match. I also know that this matches just for a warm up but their performance is not satisfying for fans. 13 overs passed and they collect only 70 runs, three wickets also lost. This match has slipped from Pakistan hands it is quite tough that Pakistan successfully chase this big target. Australia team is in good position show admirable performance in warm up and have great chance to win today match.

We all know that Pakistan is a very strong team.However, their current performance does not seem satisfactory to their fans.That's because today they could not face the Australian bowlers with much advantage in the beginning after coming into bat against Australia.Due to which their first 84 runs fell four wickets.But at the moment Babar Azam and Iftekhar Ahmed are batting well, they have already collected 213 runs in 30.1 overs. Pakistan need only 139 runs to win We hope that Pakistan will gather momentum very quickly and win this match.

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Quote from: Bureau on October 03, 2023, 07:22:45 AM

Pakistan VS Australia

What happened to Pakistan? They were bowling quite well before Maxwell arrived. I thought they would be able to restrict Australia to a small score but they managed to allow them to go beyond 350. The lower batting order of Australia is incredible even when their middle order does not work these guys, Maxwell, Green, and Inglish can become fatal for the opposition. It is not an easy target to chase for Pakistan, they would need exceptional batting from Babar today. Since it is a practice match if Pakistan loses this match it won't affect them in any way.

I also felt that what happened to Pakistan team. In first match of this warm up matches tournament then we see their performance was so remarkable and give huge target against New Zealand that's a different thing they had lost that match. I also know that this matches just for a warm up but their performance is not satisfying for fans. 13 overs passed and they collect only 70 runs, three wickets also lost. This match has slipped from Pakistan hands it is quite tough that Pakistan successfully chase this big target. Australia team is in good position show admirable performance in warm up and have great chance to win today match.

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India vs Netherlands
The 2023 ICC World Cup warm-up match between India and Netherlands has been called off due to rain.

Pakistan vs Australia

The match between Pakistan and Australia is really a big high voltage match.Because both teams are very strong in cricket ranking.However, Australia has accumulated quite a large run capital with Pakistan. In this match, however, Australia won the toss first and decided to bat after winning the toss Australia scored 351 runs for seven wickets in the allotted 50 overs.
But Pakistan are not batting well at the start they have already scored 84 runs in fourteen overs but they have lost 4 wickets.

Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan

Sri Lanka lost their first warm-up match to Bangladesh by seven wickets.Today is Sri Lanka's second warm-up match against Afghanistan and it can be said that Sri Lanka came back well against them as they scored 294 runs batting first.
Now Afghanistan are batting and they have collected 150 runs for the loss of one wicket in 12 overs.

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The match between India and Netherlands has already been abandoned due to rain. The ground where the match between India and Netherlands was supposed to be played was rained so much that even the toss was not held. India and Netherlands were deprived of two warm-up matches of their own as two of these teams' warm-up matches were abandoned.
Out of the three matches, two matches are now underway.

Pakistan VS Australia
Australia managed to set a big target against Pakistan. At the end of the first innings, Australia scored 351 runs for seven wickets against Pakistan, where Pakistan is now batting with a target of 352 runs.

Afghanistan Vs Sri Lanka
On the other hand, against Afghanistan, Sri Lanka lost all wickets in the first innings and made 292 runs, Afghanistan is now batting in the second innings. As the rain has not hampered the play yet, it looks like we will see the results of these two matches.

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Pakistan VS Australia

What happened to Pakistan? They were bowling quite well before Maxwell arrived. I thought they would be able to restrict Australia to a small score but they managed to allow them to go beyond 350. The lower batting order of Australia is incredible even when their middle order does not work these guys, Maxwell, Green, and Inglish can become fatal for the opposition. It is not an easy target to chase for Pakistan, they would need exceptional batting from Babar today. Since it is a practice match if Pakistan loses this match it won't affect them in any way.

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OK.. Now there is confirmation that the match between India and Netherlands have been abandoned. It has been raining continuously for the last 72 hours in Thiruvananthapuram, and there was no chance that a result could be obtained. There was a brief lull in rain from around 2pm to 4pm, but now the reports indicate that rains have returned. India had a recent ODI series against Australia, so they won't be much bothered. But it is a huge loss for the Netherlands, as they don't get the opportunity to face India that often.

@Sithara007 since it’s an warmup match I’m not upset but I’ll be truly disappointed if any key match gets washed out due to rains once the World Cup begins. Lastly while the Netherland player’s will indeed be disappointed but they should not take the day off and instead prepare indoors because now they can’t afford their fitness levels to drop heading into the World Cup.

Several warm up matches were delayed due to rain. And some matches were abandoned. Weather in India is not good at this time. I don't know if ICC has made the World Cup fixture keeping in mind the weather. India is a very big country. Weather may be bad in some states. ICC should have made the fixer considering the weather. Every match in the World Cup is very important for the teams. It is really unfortunate for the team when a match is delayed or abandoned due to rain. And it might stand in the way of a team qualifying for the semi-finals.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 03, 2023, 06:03:13 AM

OK.. Now there is confirmation that the match between India and Netherlands have been abandoned. It has been raining continuously for the last 72 hours in Thiruvananthapuram, and there was no chance that a result could be obtained. There was a brief lull in rain from around 2pm to 4pm, but now the reports indicate that rains have returned. India had a recent ODI series against Australia, so they won't be much bothered. But it is a huge loss for the Netherlands, as they don't get the opportunity to face India that often.

@Sithara007 since it’s an warmup match I’m not upset but I’ll be truly disappointed if any key match gets washed out due to rains once the World Cup begins. Lastly while the Netherland player’s will indeed be disappointed but they should not take the day off and instead prepare indoors because now they can’t afford their fitness levels to drop heading into the World Cup.

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OK.. Now there is confirmation that the match between India and Netherlands have been abandoned. It has been raining continuously for the last 72 hours in Thiruvananthapuram, and there was no chance that a result could be obtained. There was a brief lull in rain from around 2pm to 4pm, but now the reports indicate that rains have returned. India had a recent ODI series against Australia, so they won't be much bothered. But it is a huge loss for the Netherlands, as they don't get the opportunity to face India that often.

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