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November 07, 2023, 09:24:01 AM
I never imagined a team like Australia struggling against a team like Afganistan. These Afghans have already defeated some of the highly recognised team. They might make Australia realise their position in this cup. Another big upset I feel in the making as Australians are struggling.

Not comfortable with Afghanistan winning as it will change the whole scenario for Pakistan and I wanted them to play in semifinals or you can say view another game with India. For me this game is going from bad to worst for Australian team. Unless a batter comes up an d destroy the Afghan bowling.
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November 07, 2023, 09:18:50 AM
Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today? Knowing Australia I think it is hard for them. Considering the overall performance today, it seems Australia has a upper edge against Afghanistan. They were able to restrict Afghans from going beyond 300 runs. For me that is a positive sign.
If Afganistan wants to win against Australia, they would have to get wickets before the first power play ends. The first 10 overs are critical as it helps the bowling side eliminate the top batters. The situation is similar as of Afghanistan are able to get a few wickets it would become a problem for the Australian batting.
Australia's chances of victory are slowly diminishing. They lost 4 important batsmen for just 49 runs. Azmatullah took two wickets in two balls. I didn't expect to see Australia batting badly in the power play. Maxwell and Labuschagne are batting now. If these two batsmen can survive at the crease, Australia still has a chance to win. But it is much more difficult. The average run of the teams in the second innings on this pitch of Wankhede Stadium is only 196 runs. This is why it is difficult for Australia to win by batting at a target of 292 runs. Moreover, Afghanistan's bowlers are bowling well today.
The Australian team is now in trouble. I never imagined that Australia's  top order would  collapse like this. In the last 5  matches we have seen great performances from Australian players. Especially  the batsmen  played very well. But today they can't stay at the crease against the Afghanistan bowlers. At the end of 12 overs, Australia collected only 61 runs, losing 4 wickets. If Maxwell and Labuschagne can't play big innings then Australia has no chance of winning. Australia has a slim chance of winning if these two batsmen score a century. But the match is now completely under the control of the Afghanistan bowlers.

Australia lost their fifth wicket. Labuschagne was run out at such a crucial moment. I didn't imagine they would play so stupid like that. Australia's batsmen should have batted more carefully. As they lost four wickets very quickly. The way Australia are batting now, it will be difficult for Australia to score 100 runs if Maxwell is out. Australia now collect 72/5. There is no chance of winning the match. Losing this match will make it more difficult for Australia to qualify for the semi-finals. They will play against Bangladesh in the last match. Although Bangladesh is not strong, it is not possible to make predictions about the performance of this team.
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November 07, 2023, 09:05:13 AM
Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today? Knowing Australia I think it is hard for them. Considering the overall performance today, it seems Australia has a upper edge against Afghanistan. They were able to restrict Afghans from going beyond 300 runs. For me that is a positive sign.

If Afganistan wants to win against Australia, they would have to get wickets before the first power play ends. The first 10 overs are critical as it helps the bowling side eliminate the top batters. The situation is similar as of Afghanistan are able to get a few wickets it would become a problem for the Australian batting.
Australia's chances of victory are slowly diminishing. They lost 4 important batsmen for just 49 runs. Azmatullah took two wickets in two balls. I didn't expect to see Australia batting badly in the power play. Maxwell and Labuschagne are batting now. If these two batsmen can survive at the crease, Australia still has a chance to win. But it is much more difficult. The average run of the teams in the second innings on this pitch of Wankhede Stadium is only 196 runs. This is why it is difficult for Australia to win by batting at a target of 292 runs. Moreover, Afghanistan's bowlers are bowling well today.

The Australian team is now in trouble. I never imagined that Australia's  top order would  collapse like this. In the last 5  matches we have seen great performances from Australian players. Especially  the batsmen  played very well. But today they can't stay at the crease against the Afghanistan bowlers. At the end of 12 overs, Australia collected only 61 runs, losing 4 wickets. If Maxwell and Labuschagne can't play big innings then Australia has no chance of winning. Australia has a slim chance of winning if these two batsmen score a century. But the match is now completely under the control of the Afghanistan bowlers.
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November 07, 2023, 09:00:36 AM
I find this hard to believe this is happening with Australia, or are they deliberately playing bad to make troubles for New Zealand and Pakistan?
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November 07, 2023, 08:52:13 AM
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Are we going to see another upset today? Or better say another good performance from Afghanistan today? 291 isn't a bad total against Australia. Naveen-ul-Haq already removed Travis without scoring runs. We know how well Afghanistan's bowling line up. They are one of the teams in Asia and are likely to bowl well in Indian conditions.

The last two opponents of Australia are not too strong. Bangladesh very much likely to lose against Australia and Afghanistan already playing today. I would love to see some good cricket today.
Whether today's match will be one to remember for Afghanistan, the way Afghanistan's pacers have started is not sure if Australia are bowled out before 150 runs.
If Afghanistan wins today then the World Cup semi-final equation will be completely reversed, in this case if Afghanistan win their next match then Afghanistan will go to the semi-final without any equation.
However, Australia is a much weaker team than their next competitors Bangladesh Afghanistan which Afghanistan have proved in this World Cup. However, Afghanistan's next match is against South Africa where if Afghanistan does well, Australia will not qualify for the semi-finals.
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November 07, 2023, 08:51:20 AM

This victory of Bangladesh will only be a consolation for them. They have lost every previous match but won the last match against Sri Lanka. Shakib Al Hasan has played very well in the last matches, especially because of this, the Bangladesh team has become so weak.  Shakib Al Hasan's good performance in yesterday's match helped Bangladesh to win the match. Bangladesh has earned a lot of reputation in the game of cricket but in this world cup they have played in such a way that they have ruined their reputation
Bangladesh team played very well in this match, it would have been good for them if they had performed well in the previous matches. The performance of the Bangladesh team players was so bad that it was beyond imagination.  I didn't think. Because I first thought maybe Bangladesh team can't win this match but due to their good performance Bangladesh team won very easily.
After a long penance, Bangladesh finally won a match and it looked like we got some oxygen but this oxygen was only to save lives and watch the other team take the cup ha ha. Shakib Al Hasan finally played a match very well.  Although Bangladesh is behind this time, I hope that Bangladesh will show a good performance in the next World Cup

Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today? Knowing Australia I think it is hard for them. Considering the overall performance today, it seems Australia has a upper edge against Afghanistan. They were able to restrict Afghans from going beyond 300 runs. For me that is a positive sign.

If Afganistan wants to win against Australia, they would have to get wickets before the first power play ends. The first 10 overs are critical as it helps the bowling side eliminate the top batters. The situation is similar as of Afghanistan are able to get a few wickets it would become a problem for the Australian batting.
Afghanistan's position is very good so far and although Afghanistan could not give Australia a target of more than 300 runs, their bowling performance has been very good and they have bowled only 9 overs to take Australia's 4 wickets. Afghanistan's performance suggests that they are very likely to win the match.  And I think Afghanistan can win the match by big runs. Australia had won all the last 5 matches but they probably won't win the match today
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November 07, 2023, 08:48:36 AM
Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today? Knowing Australia I think it is hard for them. Considering the overall performance today, it seems Australia has a upper edge against Afghanistan. They were able to restrict Afghans from going beyond 300 runs. For me that is a positive sign.

If Afganistan wants to win against Australia, they would have to get wickets before the first power play ends. The first 10 overs are critical as it helps the bowling side eliminate the top batters. The situation is similar as of Afghanistan are able to get a few wickets it would become a problem for the Australian batting.
Australia's current condition looks like they are under a lot of pressure. Australia have already lost their four wickets for just 49 run.  Australia's big four wickets have already fallen and only 6 wickets are left but they still need 241 runs to touch the target. So that's why I want to say that yes Afghanistan can win today's match.
Today Australia's batsmen seem nervous in front of Afghanistan's bowlers. My expectations were slightly different today however I thought Australia would win this match and qualify for the semi finals. Although Australia's chances of winning today seem low to me, I would still say that Australia should play the match with a cool head.  If you are too hasty to score runs I think the rest of the wickets will fall very quickly. But my ultimate thought is that Australia will lose today.
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November 07, 2023, 08:47:32 AM
Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today?
Ben Stokes!!! Afghans are the favorite now.

Their seamers doing India here. They are giving Australia the same treatment as SL's batters and the scorecard looks glorious (Sri Lankans should not feel alone now lol). I placed a bet on them when they were struggling during 40-ish overs and the odds were @3.50. I wasn't serious about it but now it's looking good.

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November 07, 2023, 08:46:00 AM
Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today? Knowing Australia I think it is hard for them. Considering the overall performance today, it seems Australia has a upper edge against Afghanistan. They were able to restrict Afghans from going beyond 300 runs. For me that is a positive sign.

If Afganistan wants to win against Australia, they would have to get wickets before the first power play ends. The first 10 overs are critical as it helps the bowling side eliminate the top batters. The situation is similar as of Afghanistan are able to get a few wickets it would become a problem for the Australian batting.

Australia's chances of victory are slowly diminishing. They lost 4 important batsmen for just 49 runs. Azmatullah took two wickets in two balls. I didn't expect to see Australia batting badly in the power play. Maxwell and Labuschagne are batting now. If these two batsmen can survive at the crease, Australia still has a chance to win. But it is much more difficult. The average run of the teams in the second innings on this pitch of Wankhede Stadium is only 196 runs. This is why it is difficult for Australia to win by batting at a target of 292 runs. Moreover, Afghanistan's bowlers are bowling well today.
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November 07, 2023, 08:32:14 AM
Can Afghanistan win against the Australian team today? Knowing Australia I think it is hard for them. Considering the overall performance today, it seems Australia has a upper edge against Afghanistan. They were able to restrict Afghans from going beyond 300 runs. For me that is a positive sign.

If Afganistan wants to win against Australia, they would have to get wickets before the first power play ends. The first 10 overs are critical as it helps the bowling side eliminate the top batters. The situation is similar as of Afghanistan are able to get a few wickets it would become a problem for the Australian batting.
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November 07, 2023, 08:06:36 AM
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Are we going to see another upset today? Or better say another good performance from Afghanistan today? 291 isn't a bad total against Australia. Naveen-ul-Haq already removed Travis without scoring runs. We know how well Afghanistan's bowling line up. They are one of the teams in Asia and are likely to bowl well in Indian conditions.

The last two opponents of Australia are not too strong. Bangladesh very much likely to lose against Australia and Afghanistan already playing today. I would love to see some good cricket today.
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November 07, 2023, 07:48:27 AM
Afghanistan makes 291, they must be pleased with that, very good innings from Rashid Khan — thanks to him they reached this score, and well deserved hundred from Ibrahim. Chase is on for the Aussies.
A late cameo of 35 from Rashid Khan and Ibrahim Zadran's unbeaten 129 helped Afghanistan to 291 in the end. Ibrahim Zadran is probably the first opening batsman to bat in an innings from the start to the end of a World Cup tournament. 

The target level for Australia is 292 runs, if we consider the performance of Australia in other matches, the target of 292 runs is not a very big target for Australia but since they have the likes of Rashid Khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Naveen-ul-Haq, Noor Ahmad in the opposition team. It can be assumed that this match will be a tough fight.
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November 07, 2023, 07:25:08 AM

This victory of Bangladesh will only be a consolation for them. They have lost every previous match but won the last match against Sri Lanka. Shakib Al Hasan has played very well in the last matches, especially because of this, the Bangladesh team has become so weak.  Shakib Al Hasan's good performance in yesterday's match helped Bangladesh to win the match. Bangladesh has earned a lot of reputation in the game of cricket but in this world cup they have played in such a way that they have ruined their reputation
Bangladesh team played very well in this match, it would have been good for them if they had performed well in the previous matches. The performance of the Bangladesh team players was so bad that it was beyond imagination.  I didn't think. Because I first thought maybe Bangladesh team can't win this match but due to their good performance Bangladesh team won very easily.
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November 07, 2023, 07:20:37 AM
Afghanistan makes 291, they must be pleased with that, very good innings from Rashid Khan — thanks to him they reached this score, and well deserved hundred from Ibrahim. Chase is on for the Aussies.
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November 07, 2023, 07:04:35 AM
Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.
Afghanistan's first innings total could go between 290 and 300. If Afghanistan can score 290 to 300 runs in the first innings against Australia, then I would say that this Afghanistan match is much more special than other matches. Australia have a great bowling line-up, Afghanistan 290 to 300 runs against that great bowling line-up means Afghanistan have developed a lot in their batting. Afghanistan's total is now 259 runs in 47.2 overs, with two set batsmen on the wicket and 16 balls still in hand so I'm considering Afghanistan's first innings total between 290 and 300. If Afghanistan can score 300 runs then this match will be very difficult for Australia. I believe so much that Afghanistan's bowling lineup is much more reliable than its batting lineup.
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November 07, 2023, 06:55:54 AM
It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.

I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.

@Sithara007 I’m disappointed in Shakib and Bangladesh because they won at the cost of the integrity of this beautiful game and honestly I’m surprised as he had no regrets over this because even the umpires asked him if he was sure which showed that they clearly saw this as a poor decision. Lastly I hope that ICC can change this rule to a certain extent because I don’t want to see what I saw yesterday ever again in any match.
It's okay to understand that everyone has their own perspective. In my view, there's no need to be disappointed because Angelo Mathews' timing out was in accordance with the rules. Rules exist for a reason, right? Shakib made the correct decision as a captain. Mathews should have acted more professionally in this situation. He called for something without seeking permission from the opposing team's leader or the umpire. In the end, it's the umpire's decision.
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November 07, 2023, 06:51:07 AM
Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.

They are at 217/4 after 45 overs. In the next 17 overs, if they can score at 10 runs per over, then they can get to 260-280, which would be an exceptional total against a strong team like Australia. Ibrahim Zadran and Mohammad Nabi are looking quite comfortable out there. But I have concerns about the Afghan middle-order after repeated failures. Anyway, 280 would be enough at the Wankhede Stadium. And in that case, it will be somewhat difficult for Australia to qualify for the semi-finals. But the good thing is that they already have 10 points.
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November 07, 2023, 06:48:22 AM
It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.
I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.
@Sithara007 I’m disappointed in Shakib and Bangladesh because they won at the cost of the integrity of this beautiful game and honestly I’m surprised as he had no regrets over this because even the umpires asked him if he was sure which showed that they clearly saw this as a poor decision. Lastly I hope that ICC can change this rule to a certain extent because I don’t want to see what I saw yesterday ever again in any match.

I cannot agree with you. First, it is the Rules. of ICC And secondly, as a result of this, the Bangladesh team could have suffered in two ways. Firstly, if Mathews had played well, it would have been difficult for Bangladesh to win if Sri Lanka had given a big target. Secondly, we have seen in several matches where the fielding team is penalized for slow overs. Mathews wasted time, and if Shakib hadn't taken this opportunity, and if Bangladesh had been penalized for a slow over later, Shakib would have had to shoulder the blame entirely. However, there is an opportunity to simplify the ICC rules a little more. ICC may think about it after the World Cup if the Sri Lanka Cricket Board appeals.
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November 07, 2023, 06:39:34 AM
It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.

I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.

@Sithara007 I’m disappointed in Shakib and Bangladesh because they won at the cost of the integrity of this beautiful game and honestly I’m surprised as he had no regrets over this because even the umpires asked him if he was sure which showed that they clearly saw this as a poor decision. Lastly I hope that ICC can change this rule to a certain extent because I don’t want to see what I saw yesterday ever again in any match.
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November 07, 2023, 06:14:51 AM
Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.

Although their scoring rate is low, they have wickets in hand. Both the batters are playing sensible cricket, continuously rotating strikes and getting some boundaries here and there. With 14 overs left in the first inning, the stage is perfectly set for the upcoming Afghanistan batsmen to score big from here. I think Afghanistan will be looking for a total of 260-290. Australian death bowling is very good, and the Afghanistan batsmen have to be at their absolute best to score at 9 or 10 runs per over from here on. The pitch looks slow, and Afghanistan spinners might trouble Australian batsmen. Australia will try to attach in the powerplay to mitigate the required run rate problem.
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