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Topic: [ICO] CombiCoin current investors up 75% in 1.5 month! Token sales reopened now! - page 28. (Read 29428 times)

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Quick update on the amount raised:

$1,734,432


Nice morning news! Smiley

 
Yeah I couldn’t find anything in my quick skim of the site but I guess that the token wasn’t used for anything other the placeholder access, so in my books combicoin comes out on top, you could have a nice amount of  combicoin and your TRIA quietly earning away helping you make your stash of combicoin larger 🤑

Yes, in this case, the advantages of the CombiCoin and TriaToken are obvious. Smiley
In my opinion, bqx in an interesting way solves the problem of manually managing the variety of ether tokens, but the purpose of the CombiCoin is quite different.
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where's I can see the spreadsheet of participants, sir ? Spreadsheet with stacks
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Quick update on the amount raised:

$1,734,432
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I’m not too familiar with bitquence but from looking at it quickly it seems like another “diversification” option, where they simply take your investment (ETH) and split it between several accounts with various alts via the “universal wallet”

In a few of their infographs they are comparing themselves to Ledger Nano S, Trezor and such which to mean means there positioning themselves as more of a “universal wallet” then what combicoin is.

I also couldn’t find if they have something like the TRIA token for dividends but it doesn’t seem like it

  Bitquence was created to "bundle" coins based on risk for the average person that knows little about cryptocurrency, its a frontend that combines coins into "bags" with labeling that translates to the average person.  Like ordering your groceries online and saying just get me the top 20 healthiest items at the store this week, then the store delivers it to you neatly packed in a bag, you eat, live long, and prosper..etc !!

  However, your response helped greatly in that if a person that is deep enough into cryptoland can go take a peek at something like Bitquence, and finds the message is maybe not completely clear as to what the core point of the project is, then well, that certainly raises the bar for CombiCoin, in that the message is very simple, very clear in my opinion, and that makes all the difference when reaching out to a wide audience. 

SereneticElectrons

One of the big differences between their solution and our is that we manage the assets actively. What happens when on of the "fresh groceries" becomes to big or worse starts to decline sharply. At the start the risks will be diversified, but at a certain point in time one coin will have a much higher weight then the others. At that point the risks are no longer diversified.

We actively manage the assets, meaning that we ensure the correct top 30 is in CombiCoin and that no single coin will become dominant, because that will nullify all benefits that CombiCoin brings.

Yes, the users of BQX must choose and track the crypto-currencies themselves.
In addition, BQX tokens do not really provide any advantages to owners except, in fact, access to the platform. "BQX is an Functional Token that will be used on the platform to access various features and fees... However, BQX Tokens will NOT: Pay dividends or profits of any kind" (info from the official site).
Token has neither its own value (as opposed to CombiCoin) nor dividends for owners (as opposed to TRIA). Therefore, there are many more differences than similarities.


Yeah I couldn’t find anything in my quick skim of the site but I guess that the token wasn’t used for anything other the placeholder access, so in my books combicoin comes out on top, you could have a nice amount of  combicoin and your TRIA quietly earning away helping you make your stash of combicoin larger 🤑
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When the campaign spreadsheets will be update ? Also I saw you still have not your turkish translator. if you need it I can suggest an experienced person Smiley
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"For 10 USD the first investors will receive a CombiCoin"  this price may vary according to the money collected in the ico process. or is it fixed ? Are you have any information about that ?
Price is fixed.  $10 = 1 CombiCoin + 1 TRIA token.
In the firsts days of the ICO for investors there was a system of bonuses, But now, it seems to me, the only bonus is a 5% more TRIA tokens for investments more then $10000.

Thanks for picking up the question Freqenqerf!

You are right about this.

-Don

Not at all. I carefully studied the information on investing. Cheesy
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"For 10 USD the first investors will receive a CombiCoin"  this price may vary according to the money collected in the ico process. or is it fixed ? Are you have any information about that ?
Price is fixed.  $10 = 1 CombiCoin + 1 TRIA token.
In the firsts days of the ICO for investors there was a system of bonuses, But now, it seems to me, the only bonus is a 5% more TRIA tokens for investments more then $10000.

Thanks for picking up the question Freqenqerf!

You are right about this.

-Don
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"For 10 USD the first investors will receive a CombiCoin"  this price may vary according to the money collected in the ico process. or is it fixed ? Are you have any information about that ?
Price is fixed.  $10 = 1 CombiCoin + 1 TRIA token.
In the firsts days of the ICO for investors there was a system of bonuses, But now, it seems to me, the only bonus is a 5% more TRIA tokens for investments more then $10000
And 10% more tokens for investments more then $50000.
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I’m not too familiar with bitquence but from looking at it quickly it seems like another “diversification” option, where they simply take your investment (ETH) and split it between several accounts with various alts via the “universal wallet”

In a few of their infographs they are comparing themselves to Ledger Nano S, Trezor and such which to mean means there positioning themselves as more of a “universal wallet” then what combicoin is.

I also couldn’t find if they have something like the TRIA token for dividends but it doesn’t seem like it

  Bitquence was created to "bundle" coins based on risk for the average person that knows little about cryptocurrency, its a frontend that combines coins into "bags" with labeling that translates to the average person.  Like ordering your groceries online and saying just get me the top 20 healthiest items at the store this week, then the store delivers it to you neatly packed in a bag, you eat, live long, and prosper..etc !!

  However, your response helped greatly in that if a person that is deep enough into cryptoland can go take a peek at something like Bitquence, and finds the message is maybe not completely clear as to what the core point of the project is, then well, that certainly raises the bar for CombiCoin, in that the message is very simple, very clear in my opinion, and that makes all the difference when reaching out to a wide audience. 

SereneticElectrons

One of the big differences between their solution and our is that we manage the assets actively. What happens when on of the "fresh groceries" becomes to big or worse starts to decline sharply. At the start the risks will be diversified, but at a certain point in time one coin will have a much higher weight then the others. At that point the risks are no longer diversified.

We actively manage the assets, meaning that we ensure the correct top 30 is in CombiCoin and that no single coin will become dominant, because that will nullify all benefits that CombiCoin brings.

Yes, the users of BQX must choose and track the crypto-currencies themselves.
In addition, BQX tokens do not really provide any advantages to owners except, in fact, access to the platform. "BQX is an Functional Token that will be used on the platform to access various features and fees... However, BQX Tokens will NOT: Pay dividends or profits of any kind" (info from the official site).
Token has neither its own value (as opposed to CombiCoin) nor dividends for owners (as opposed to TRIA). Therefore, there are many more differences than similarities.
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"For 10 USD the first investors will receive a CombiCoin"  this price may vary according to the money collected in the ico process. or is it fixed ? Are you have any information about that ?
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Co-founder Triaconta
I’m not too familiar with bitquence but from looking at it quickly it seems like another “diversification” option, where they simply take your investment (ETH) and split it between several accounts with various alts via the “universal wallet”

In a few of their infographs they are comparing themselves to Ledger Nano S, Trezor and such which to mean means there positioning themselves as more of a “universal wallet” then what combicoin is.

I also couldn’t find if they have something like the TRIA token for dividends but it doesn’t seem like it

  Bitquence was created to "bundle" coins based on risk for the average person that knows little about cryptocurrency, its a frontend that combines coins into "bags" with labeling that translates to the average person.  Like ordering your groceries online and saying just get me the top 20 healthiest items at the store this week, then the store delivers it to you neatly packed in a bag, you eat, live long, and prosper..etc !!

  However, your response helped greatly in that if a person that is deep enough into cryptoland can go take a peek at something like Bitquence, and finds the message is maybe not completely clear as to what the core point of the project is, then well, that certainly raises the bar for CombiCoin, in that the message is very simple, very clear in my opinion, and that makes all the difference when reaching out to a wide audience. 

SereneticElectrons

One of the big differences between their solution and our is that we manage the assets actively. What happens when on of the "fresh groceries" becomes to big or worse starts to decline sharply. At the start the risks will be diversified, but at a certain point in time one coin will have a much higher weight then the others. At that point the risks are no longer diversified.

We actively manage the assets, meaning that we ensure the correct top 30 is in CombiCoin and that no single coin will become dominant, because that will nullify all benefits that CombiCoin brings.
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I’m not too familiar with bitquence but from looking at it quickly it seems like another “diversification” option, where they simply take your investment (ETH) and split it between several accounts with various alts via the “universal wallet”

In a few of their infographs they are comparing themselves to Ledger Nano S, Trezor and such which to mean means there positioning themselves as more of a “universal wallet” then what combicoin is.

I also couldn’t find if they have something like the TRIA token for dividends but it doesn’t seem like it

  Bitquence was created to "bundle" coins based on risk for the average person that knows little about cryptocurrency, its a frontend that combines coins into "bags" with labeling that translates to the average person.  Like ordering your groceries online and saying just get me the top 20 healthiest items at the store this week, then the store delivers it to you neatly packed in a bag, you eat, live long, and prosper..etc !!

  However, your response helped greatly in that if a person that is deep enough into cryptoland can go take a peek at something like Bitquence, and finds the message is maybe not completely clear as to what the core point of the project is, then well, that certainly raises the bar for CombiCoin, in that the message is very simple, very clear in my opinion, and that makes all the difference when reaching out to a wide audience. 

SereneticElectrons
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According to the website (https://triaconta.com/presale) if I would invest US$ 10,000 today I would get 1,000 Combicoins + 1,000 TriaTokens.

If I would invest the same in ETH (at today's rate of 1 ETH = US$ 280) this would be about 35.7 ETH. However, according to the site when investing 35 ETH I would get 893 Combicoins + 893 TriaTokens only??

Did I overlook something, is the exchange rate US$ / ETH used on the website not up-to-date or is there something else going on?

Hi,

For every 10 USD you will receive 1 CombiCoin and 1 TRIA token. So when you pay in USD there is no conversion and our form shows exactly how much you will receive.
When you pay in ETH there will be a conversion from ETH to USD based on the average price of ETH on the day payment is received. That is why our form states the following:

Estimated amount of CombiCoins*: xxxxx
Estimated amount of TriaTokens*: xxxxx

* the actual amount CombiCoins and TriaTokens depends on your actual payment and the day the payment is received by the Foundation.
The estimation does not use real time ETH prices.

After receiving payment you receive a confirmation from us with the exact conversion rate and the exact amount of CombiCoins and TRIA Tokens you will receive
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According to the website (https://triaconta.com/presale) if I would invest US$ 10,000 today I would get 1,000 Combicoins + 1,000 TriaTokens.

If I would invest the same in ETH (at today's rate of 1 ETH = US$ 280) this would be about 35.7 ETH. However, according to the site when investing 35 ETH I would get 893 Combicoins + 893 TriaTokens only??

Did I overlook something, is the exchange rate US$ / ETH used on the website not up-to-date or is there something else going on?

You should get also a 5% more TRIA tokens has bonus considering that you are going to invest more then 10k$
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According to the website (https://triaconta.com/presale) if I would invest US$ 10,000 today I would get 1,000 Combicoins + 1,000 TriaTokens.

If I would invest the same in ETH (at today's rate of 1 ETH = US$ 280) this would be about 35.7 ETH. However, according to the site when investing 35 ETH I would get 893 Combicoins + 893 TriaTokens only??

Did I overlook something, is the exchange rate US$ / ETH used on the website not up-to-date or is there something else going on?

Hi the conversion eth/$ should give you the right amount of token, this was previosly asked. I think the op can confirm this.
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According to the website (https://triaconta.com/presale) if I would invest US$ 10,000 today I would get 1,000 Combicoins + 1,000 TriaTokens.

If I would invest the same in ETH (at today's rate of 1 ETH = US$ 280) this would be about 35.7 ETH. However, according to the site when investing 35 ETH I would get 893 Combicoins + 893 TriaTokens only??

Did I overlook something, is the exchange rate US$ / ETH used on the website not up-to-date or is there something else going on?
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  I read through (scanned) a lot of posts, so forgive me if this has been brought up.  If CombiCoin where asked to differentiate themselves from Bitquence at this point in time, what would be the key points where the two differ to a great degree ?

Second, in the future it seems Bitquence would likely be interested in focused development of a system like this as a feature of their coin.

Lastly, have CombiCoin and Bitquence ever had an exchange of words ? The two projects seem very much complimentary, it seems to me larger gains could be had with CombiCoin "Combined" with Bitquence.

I know nobody wants to hear all that with all the high energy and excitement, as well as a very successful round of fundraising, so everything aside, I wish you guys well..It's a great idea in it's user facing simplicity and backend complexity.

SereneticElectrons



I’m not too familiar with bitquence but from looking at it quickly it seems like another “diversification” option, where they simply take your investment (ETH) and split it between several accounts with various alts via the “universal wallet”

In a few of their infographs they are comparing themselves to Ledger Nano S, Trezor and such which to mean means there positioning themselves as more of a “universal wallet” then what combicoin is.

I also couldn’t find if they have something like the TRIA token for dividends but it doesn’t seem like it
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  I read through (scanned) a lot of posts, so forgive me if this has been brought up.  If CombiCoin where asked to differentiate themselves from Bitquence at this point in time, what would be the key points where the two differ to a great degree ?

Second, in the future it seems Bitquence would likely be interested in focused development of a system like this as a feature of their coin.

Lastly, have CombiCoin and Bitquence ever had an exchange of words ? The two projects seem very much complimentary, it seems to me larger gains could be had with CombiCoin "Combined" with Bitquence.

I know nobody wants to hear all that with all the high energy and excitement, as well as a very successful round of fundraising, so everything aside, I wish you guys well..It's a great idea in it's user facing simplicity and backend complexity.

SereneticElectrons

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Brand new account with zero posts, take your FUD somewhere else, i think hello kitty island adventure would be better suited to you as you don’t seem to understand cryptocurrency and are just here to troll

No. No we don't. Go back to trading stocks big you want regulation, child.

I came back hoping there are some reasonable answers and this is what I get Sad
But thanks for the "child comment", made me feel younger Smiley
No need to talk about your assumption that anybody who wants regulations should go back to stocks.

Primitive 1st comment is just ridiculous. Obviously you don't understand cc. Yes the anonymity cc brings is good. Also that you don't need a 3rd party. Not to talk about cost savings.
But it doesn't mean that any kind of regulation is bad and it definately doesn't mean that the only alternative is stocks Cheesy
There've already been a lot of scams with ICOs.
You might say that those people deserve it because they were stupid enough to fall for this scams.
But in fact a lot of people trade cc who aren't "professionals". Many of them have full-time jobs or a family or both. They don't have time to investigate sufficiently.
Also people seem to be more lavish with cc than with fiat. (maybe because many made big profits already)
To protect them, we need regulations for ICOs.

Back to topic. Any good counterarguments? Or just more stupid comments?

Lets keep it friendly in this threat Smiley.

Other people responded to you already I think they already covered most of your questions.

We agree that regulations need to happen, and they eventually will be there. But now it is still not the case. We are real people who put are name and reputation on the line.
Not only our names (from the founders) but also from our advisors like Professor Dr. Arie Buijs. We understand this very well and do not want to do anything that might harm his reputation.
We are very thankfull that he invested his time in helping us and he even has a position in the supervisory board of our foundation.

If we missed any of your questions let me know!

Best,

Don
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