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Topic: I'm starting to get fucking pissed (BFL) - page 8. (Read 13704 times)

Bitcoinorama

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Simples, set your own two week theory, and then in two weeks make a real decision based on the fact that was the last two week limit you were prepared to take.

Something may happen in two weeks from now, and you can make a more informed decision.

Something might not happen, and you can safely say that was the last two weeks of my life I was prepared to give to BFL.

That said the OP is in the more awkward position of being a previous buyer with a trade-in device, and he is paying half the original retail price for the goods. In effect he has less to loose, as he is paying less than a quarter of the current retail price for gh/s per US$... Huh

Huh

wrenchmonkey

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Quote from: k9quaint on May 18, 2013, 11:03:00 AM

Quote from: gweedo on May 18, 2013, 10:54:40 AM

Hardware is hard, remember this is custom hardware, it isn't like plans sit on the self and you can just modify those.

It is only hard if you have never done it before. Otherwise it is just like building and shipping any other physical product.

Cool. So when will you be shipping your line of ASIC hardware?

k9quaint

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Quote from: gweedo on May 18, 2013, 10:54:40 AM

Hardware is hard, remember this is custom hardware, it isn't like plans sit on the self and you can just modify those.

It is only hard if you have never done it before. Otherwise it is just like building and shipping any other physical product.

gweedo

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Hardware is hard, remember this is custom hardware, it isn't like plans sit on the self and you can just modify those.

yxt

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simple:

refund now, do not look back.
Never make a business with them again.

or wait, read this "delivery in 14 days" bullshit for another X months
may get a device sometime or get nothing when bfl is insolvent

I think they have real cash flow problems ...
everything fits together on this assumption

Complaining is silly. Either act or forget.

smoothie

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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper

Quote from: Xian01 on May 18, 2013, 08:39:12 AM

I would tread very careful about speaking poorly about BFL, Josh. Your namesake at Butterfly Labs will punitively cancel your order as has been demonstrated already.

You now risk retaliation.

Quote from: joshv06 on May 18, 2013, 04:38:43 AM

There are three things of a Man that you don't mess with.

1.)His Ego
2.)His Woman
3.)His Money

I have 2 pre-orders for Asic SC Singles. I have had it with BFL and their shit. It is easy for someone to say "Oh well just get your refund".

1. I am upgrading from BFL Singles
2. I don't want a refund, I want what I ordered

Getting a refund would be loaning BFL my hard-earned money to do what they want with it, and giving it back to me at no interest months later.

I am tired of these Useless updates from BFL_Josh. They need to hire useful workers and equipment and release the product that so many of us paid for close to a year ago. I don't care if they lose profit, I don't care if BFL_Josh has to put some of his own money to make it happen, they were optimistic with our money, and failed to have a structured business plan. They should be penalized, not us.

And also, to all of the "I told you so" people with sigs saying BFL is a scam, I don't care what you say. You guys just started posting as the delays began and act like you predicted all of this months into the future. You guys aren't helping the cause at all, you all just piggy backing the next guy and putting the same crap in your sig and saying the same things wanting to feel accomplished. Reminds me of "Yes we can" supporters.

Josh

Ok then create a sock puppet account and go on a ranting spree. Then no harm done right?

Malawi

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Quote from: baloo_kiev on May 18, 2013, 07:22:08 AM

Quote from: escrow.ms on May 18, 2013, 06:50:13 AM

Quote from: Bogart on May 18, 2013, 06:46:20 AM

Sell your preorder to a greater fool.

^ best idea but i don't think anyone will buy it now as everyone knows that BFL is not going to ship anything soon.

Look here http://bfl.ptz.ro/ New orders are reported every day.

Is's at least a couple of weeks since I looked at that one last time. Noted that a couple of the early orders have flagged their order as delivered.

Xian01

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Christian Antkow

I would tread very careful about speaking poorly about BFL, Josh. Your namesake at Butterfly Labs will punitively cancel your order as has been demonstrated already.

You now risk retaliation.

Quote from: joshv06 on May 18, 2013, 04:38:43 AM

There are three things of a Man that you don't mess with.

1.)His Ego
2.)His Woman
3.)His Money

I have 2 pre-orders for Asic SC Singles. I have had it with BFL and their shit. It is easy for someone to say "Oh well just get your refund".

1. I am upgrading from BFL Singles
2. I don't want a refund, I want what I ordered

Getting a refund would be loaning BFL my hard-earned money to do what they want with it, and giving it back to me at no interest months later.

I am tired of these Useless updates from BFL_Josh. They need to hire useful workers and equipment and release the product that so many of us paid for close to a year ago. I don't care if they lose profit, I don't care if BFL_Josh has to put some of his own money to make it happen, they were optimistic with our money, and failed to have a structured business plan. They should be penalized, not us.

And also, to all of the "I told you so" people with sigs saying BFL is a scam, I don't care what you say. You guys just started posting as the delays began and act like you predicted all of this months into the future. You guys aren't helping the cause at all, you all just piggy backing the next guy and putting the same crap in your sig and saying the same things wanting to feel accomplished. Reminds me of "Yes we can" supporters.

Josh

baloo_kiev

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Quote from: escrow.ms on May 18, 2013, 06:50:13 AM

Quote from: Bogart on May 18, 2013, 06:46:20 AM

Sell your preorder to a greater fool.

^ best idea but i don't think anyone will buy it now as everyone knows that BFL is not going to ship anything soon.

Look here http://bfl.ptz.ro/ New orders are reported every day.

escrow.ms

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Quote from: Bogart on May 18, 2013, 06:46:20 AM

Sell your preorder to a greater fool.

^ best idea but i don't think anyone will buy it now as everyone knows that BFL is not going to ship anything soon.

Bogart

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Sell your preorder to a greater fool.

loshia

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Quote from: tigerfree on May 18, 2013, 06:09:45 AM

Quote from: smoothie on May 18, 2013, 04:41:28 AM

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

I'm in Texas. I can't imagine BFL customers traveling to Kansas for this. I got a lot going on right now. I should just get what I paid for.

That is your problem as i said you are going to loose. You do not realise that your 2-5K are lost already do you? You will get 9 BTC refund at top for 1000 USd invested (90 BTC or so math maight be wrong just an example). That is just ridiculous
Any way i am not trying to get in fight with you but with your thinking you are gonna be victims. The weakest BFL point is that they are US business and US citizens also.

I feel sorry for you guys...I do really wish you to have your BFL toys soon and to enjoy
Good luck!

tigerfree

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Quote from: joshv06 on May 18, 2013, 06:04:27 AM

Quote from: tigerfree on May 18, 2013, 05:59:56 AM

Quote from: loshia on May 18, 2013, 05:40:14 AM

Quote from: smoothie on May 18, 2013, 04:41:28 AM

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

I'm in Texas. I can't imagine BFL customers traveling to Kansas for this. I got a lot going on right now. I should just get what I paid for.

you wont get you want , you have to waitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt tttt long time you get refund buy miner IC build your miner cheaper

joshv06

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Quote from: tigerfree on May 18, 2013, 05:59:56 AM

Quote from: loshia on May 18, 2013, 05:40:14 AM

Quote from: smoothie on May 18, 2013, 04:41:28 AM

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

I'm in Texas. I can't imagine BFL customers traveling to Kansas for this. I got a lot going on right now. I should just get what I paid for.

tigerfree

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Quote from: loshia on May 18, 2013, 05:40:14 AM

Quote from: smoothie on May 18, 2013, 04:41:28 AM

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

tom_o

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Quote from: joshv06 on May 18, 2013, 05:45:15 AM

Are there any BFL Pre-Order holders here who'd like to chime in?

It's a risk, it's your money. Do what you think is best and if it isn't, well hindsight is a bitch.

dan99

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if i were u get a refund... why wait? Josh is probably using your miner to mined , he get double and thanks 2 you.

joshv06

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Are there any BFL Pre-Order holders here who'd like to chime in?

PeZ

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Quote from: tigerfree on May 18, 2013, 05:26:00 AM

get refund buy some IC or ASICminer .

It's actually tiring to all the lurkers who read this forum to see people either a) bump up one year old BFL threads or b) start another BFL complaint thread. I think we all get the idea.

If you hate their business practices, either do something about it or move on. The best course of action would be for you to get a refund and move on.

But they might ship next week! Cheesy

Cheesy

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

loshia

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Quote from: smoothie on May 18, 2013, 04:41:28 AM

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

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