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Topic: Importance Of Merit Sources || Why do we need merit Source? (Read 432 times)

sr. member
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There's no problem with discussing anything here. From bitcoin to shitcoin & Elon Musk to surgical mask but you are not allowed to create repetitive threads again & again & again. Users more frequent in meta are very familiar with this type of thread & AFAIK, there was a compilation of threads on "Merit" just because someone was too bored. I can't remember when I last saw a thread as of this one; in fact, I can't remember if I have seen even it. But, I'm sure there were a few threads as of this one. That's why some see this as a repetitive thread & one more merit thread LOL.

I got Your point. But I have a different point of view. I am not aware of all those Merit related Topics and neither is everyone. I believe only a Few Old members are aware of it.
So we must be digging a little bit to find them. I remember, Maybe I read somewhere that if a Topic doesn't have any post in the last 120 days. Don't bump it.

To discuss with everyone and gather knowledge, Either I have to bump it or I have to create a thread.
In this case, Non of them were the reason. The Main Reason for the Topic was to discuss the importance of merit sources.

Many people’s idea is very simple, just for the bounty program, and it is really easy to get the first few achievements, it is enough, in fact, there are not many people who are really active or continue to expand their knowledge for the forum, and some maintain the justice of the forum. . The degree of freedom of the forum is not high.

Already Answered by @lovesmayfamilis.

I wrote a similar thread back in 2019 where I tried to find users who have earned a lot of merits but never sent anyone a single one. Maybe you have seen it. Feel free to check the names and compare it with the ones you found, maybe many of them match. The last time I made changes to it was in February of this year when I removed those users who started sending merits to others.

Top 200 Active Members who have earned most Merits but have sent 0 sMerits

Heck Yeah. This is the thing what I was looking for. To see Merit HoDLers  Grin

But discussing the same thing again and again in the different forms is not going to add any value to the content, I just felt why a new merit related again but its just opinion but I am not disrespecting any comments here.

Answered above. Smiley

Yeah. Here it is true!. Grin Finally, I see a real hunter who speaks honestly and directly that he needs merits only to participate in the bounty. And it turns out that there are few freedoms on the forum, as well as active participants who are interested in the direct direction of the forum, that is, in bitcoin.
Buddy, how narrow your horizons are. I am generally surprised how you found this topic, leaving your comfort zone, that is, from the bounty reports section?

Added.
For obvious reasons, your nickname seemed very familiar to me. What made you wake up today? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58724215

To be honest, I am surprised by your Investigation Talent. I am learning from you. I think you are the idle for Bitcointalk Polices Smiley
legendary
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Many people’s idea is very simple, just for the bounty program, and it is really easy to get the first few achievements, it is enough, in fact, there are not many people who are really active or continue to expand their knowledge for the forum, and some maintain the justice of the forum. . The degree of freedom of the forum is not high.

Yeah. Here it is true!. Grin Finally, I see a real hunter who speaks honestly and directly that he needs merits only to participate in the bounty. And it turns out that there are few freedoms on the forum, as well as active participants who are interested in the direct direction of the forum, that is, in bitcoin.
Buddy, how narrow your horizons are. I am generally surprised how you found this topic, leaving your comfort zone, that is, from the bounty reports section?

Added.
For obvious reasons, your nickname seemed very familiar to me. What made you wake up today? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58724215
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
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But why again merit-related thread guys? Its enough, better concentrate on other stuffs like Elon adding Doge as a payment mode. Tongue

I don't think there are any rules that we cannot discuss merits often.
But discussing the same thing again and again in the different forms is not going to add any value to the content, I just felt why a new merit related again but its just opinion but I am not disrespecting any comments here.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
I wrote a similar thread back in 2019 where I tried to find users who have earned a lot of merits but never sent anyone a single one. Maybe you have seen it. Feel free to check the names and compare it with the ones you found, maybe many of them match. The last time I made changes to it was in February of this year when I removed those users who started sending merits to others.

Top 200 Active Members who have earned most Merits but have sent 0 sMerits

jr. member
Activity: 54
Merit: 1
Many people’s idea is very simple, just for the bounty program, and it is really easy to get the first few achievements, it is enough, in fact, there are not many people who are really active or continue to expand their knowledge for the forum, and some maintain the justice of the forum. . The degree of freedom of the forum is not high.
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 851
I don't think there are any rules that we cannot discuss merits often.
There's no problem with discussing anything here. From bitcoin to shitcoin & Elon Musk to surgical mask but you are not allowed to create repetitive threads again & again & again. Users more frequent in meta are very familiar with this type of thread & AFAIK, there was a compilation of threads on "Merit" just because someone was too bored. I can't remember when I last saw a thread as of this one; in fact, I can't remember if I have seen even. But, I'm sure there were a few threads as of this one. That's why some see this as a repetitive thread & one more merit thread LOL.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 523
OP, how long did it take you to check all the holders and donors of merits? Your screenshots say little, it was enough just to say about it.
In my opinion, it is quite easy to get merits today. Some sources of merit, to spend the entire treasury, send merit in a circle for the same posts.
Others help to distribute merit, not in their local section, but where they are not even a native speaker, using and evaluating posts through Google Translate.
Isn't that enough? And as for those who only receive merit, but do not distribute it. Referring to their message history, most often these are people who are not at all interested in receiving merit, and when receiving such, they most likely do not worry about not giving back. Is there a rule that when we receive something, we must return it?  Smiley

It takes maybe Half an Hour? Yeah, It's easy to get merit if you are creative and constructive enough. Also, If your English is good enough. Look at Russian Board. Most of the Russian members don't post on the Global section. What would happen if they don't have any dedicated merit source? This is the Biggest Local board in Bitcointalk.
Nope, there are no rules about when we receive something, We don't have to return it. But my point is, Is there any benefit for HoDLing s-Merit?


I see my (supposed) alt account is very active lately. Lol. Grin

Oh, C'mon bro. That was Nightmare for me. Someone accuses that kind of thing without evidence just because you let me post on your thread. LOL. I understand maybe you are used to it. But, Imagine if a newbie gets a bad impression on his starting. How it would feel?

On my local board, there are some profiles that are not too proliferating when it comes to sending sMerits (despite earning a fair share), but I much prefer their contributions through their posts than anything else, and if they don’t want to participate in the Merit System, then that’s their prerogative really.


I don't have any problem with that too. Since sMerits is everyone's personal things. You can contribute as long as you have sMerits. But, If you run out of sMerits, and no one contributes on your local thread, Either you have to earn more merit for sMerits, Or Ask theymos to Top up your sMerit (I am not sure how merit source macanism works)

Don't believe everything you read online.


Okay.

According to that link I am #4 most generous giving merit. Hiding in plain sight, I am also one of the biggest sMerit holders of the forum.


Maybe Just because you are a Merit Source. That's why you have more sMerits. I guess

If you know 27-ish posts that deserve 50 Merit, please post them in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source Smiley


I don't think there are too many"Unmerited" Good Posts that deserve 50 Merits. There are too many Good posts but either they have a few merits (1-5) or more merits. Maybe I can suggest some posts that deserve more merits.

But why again merit-related thread guys? Its enough, better concentrate on other stuffs like Elon adding Doge as a payment mode. Tongue

I don't think there are any rules that we cannot discuss merits often.

Far more important things in life, genuinely puzzles me why people give a shit that much.

I guess you should be a newbie again to understand it. No?
legendary
Activity: 3556
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I cannot understand this extraordinary fascination with merits ... perhaps one of the people with immense amounts of time on their hands to analyse who does and doesn't give out their merits could instead assess whether there have been more posts about merits and the merit system than good posts that the merit system has directly encouraged ... Wink

Far more important things in life, genuinely puzzles me why people give a shit that much.
hero member
Activity: 1029
Merit: 712
I cannot understand this extraordinary fascination with merits ... perhaps one of the people with immense amounts of time on their hands to analyse who does and doesn't give out their merits could instead assess whether there have been more posts about merits and the merit system than good posts that the merit system has directly encouraged ... Wink
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
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We already have 111 of them and probably more will come in future, 34K merits per month? That's huge and along with all the sMerits is getting distributed more leniently will push the merit system to become useless, so more harder to earn merits then people will try to make more efforts for improving their Post quality.

But why again merit related thread guys? Its enough, better concentrate on other stuffs like Elon adding Doge as a payment mode. Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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You will find this thread useful: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits
Don't believe everything you read online. According to that link I am #4 most generous giving merit. Hiding in plain sight, I am also one of the biggest sMerit holders of the forum.

If you know 27-ish posts that deserve 50 Merit, please post them in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source Smiley
legendary
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In my opinion, it is quite easy to get merits today.
...But like me or another user here that new in the forum and also new in crypto, we can say that it's hard to get merits
It was hard for me when I started a year and 9 months ago, but I did still actually received merits at the early stage as often. Just best to read than post and get acquainted of what is happening here on this forum. As days, weeks and months passes by, the better you will be. And the statement is 'getting easier to receive merit now than before', it is true when theymos increased merit sources this year.
sr. member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 346
In my opinion, it is quite easy to get merits today.
You can say that because you are knowledgeable enough about crypto/bitcoin and you are also one of the older users here who contributed well to the forum. But like me or another user here that new in the forum and also new in crypto, we can say that it's hard to get merits cause we don't know where to start contributing here in the forum cause we can not share anything about bitcoin because we are still in the stage of learning,


, because some people (merit sources) will leave the forum, or they will stop being so active distributing merits, but I don't think we will need many more, and even less soon.

Yes, you're right some merit sources will leave or be inactive distributing merits here in the forum.  One of them is my fellow countrymen Cabalism13 cause he is busy In real life.
But we will wait for the decision of theymos if he adds some merits source for this biggest community.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
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On my local board, I keep track of this forum wide, in a thread I update monthly (see sMerit - Generosos y Tacaños - Foro Español). Although I focus on the Spanish local board, the Google Doc in my post contains a tab called "Foro Global" where data for all merited profiles is available, and with a filter by sMeritGenerated and ordering by %sMeritsSent you can obtain a global view of that depicted in the OP here. Of course, airdropped sMerits and Merits Source sMerits are not deal with there.

On my local board, there are some profiles that are not too proliferating when it comes to sending sMerits (despite earning a fair share), but I much prefer their contributions through their posts than anything else, and if they don’t want to participate in the Merit System, then that’s their prerogative really.
legendary
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I see my (supposed) alt account is very active lately. Lol.

 Grin

In my opinion, it is quite easy to get merits today.

Yeah, I think the same. I'm OK with 111 merit sources, no matter if some of them don't spend their merits. There are enough merits to be distributed and merits flow, that's what's important.

If I were theymos, I wouldn't want to put in too many merit sources either, so that everyone would have an inflated merit number.

Some merit sources usually give a minimum of 4 or 5 merits per post. I bet that if they were not merit sources they would give only 1 merit to many posts.

I guess theymos will be appointing some more merit sources from time to time, because some people (merit sources) will leave the forum, or they will stop being so active distributing merits, but I don't think we will need many more, and even less soon.
legendary
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OP, how long did it take you to check all the holders and donors of merits? Your screenshots say little, it was enough just to say about it.
In my opinion, it is quite easy to get merits today. Some sources of merit, in order to spend the entire treasury, send merit in a circle for the same posts.
Others help to distribute merit, not in their local section, but where they are not even a native speaker, using and evaluating posts through Google Translate.
Isn't that enough? And as for those who only receive merit, but do not distribute it. Referring to their message history, most often these are people who are not at all interested in receiving merit, and when receiving such, they most likely do not worry about not giving back. Is there a rule that when we receive something, we must return it?  Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 523
There are 111 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 34139 sMerit per 30 days. [Ref.]
I think that's enough. The last time theymos appointed new merit sources was July 5.
Number of merit sources increased from 97 to 111 and total number of source merits generated per 30 days increased from 21171 to 34139.

Thanks for the info. I was not aware of it.

I found a few Profiles who usually don't send merits to others for some reason. Some of them either forget how to send Merit or believe In HoDling sMerit.
Are those merit holders still active and regularly log in to this forum? If they are no longer active, we can understand why they didn't send their sMerit.
But for those merit holders who are still active in this forum, it is very unfortunate to know they don't care about spending their sMerit. Well, they may think they have no obligation to send their sMerit, but what's the purpose of holding it? No worth of holding sMerit, it is not BTC.  Grin  

Yes. They are active on the forum. But They keep HoDLing Their sMerit. Maybe they think Merit total Supply will be finished in near future. After that s-Merit will be rare and they will sell them. Grin

Not sure to say we will have a merit crisis without merit sources. There are still many generous members who regularly spend their sMerit although they are not a merit source. But I can agree if merit sources have a big role to spread sMerit. Without them, sMerit can be very limited and possibly lead to a crisis if the awareness of spending merit among members be worsen.

Even all member spends their s-Merit, There will be a merit crisis after a certain time if theymos remove merit sources. Because you get 0.5 sMerit for 1 merit.

I listed only Active members. Smiley
I've got no problem with those so-called merit hodlers.  Everyone's got their own opinion of the system and no one is required to participate in it, so I wouldn't be quick to lay a guilt trip on them.  Just my opinion.
Since everyone has their freedom about merit. We cannot blame anyone for that. I just shared this to show the importance of merit sources.

Right. But, As far I know we have 111 Merit sources only. it's been a long time since theymos didn't add any new merit sources.

Yes, we have 111 merit sources but not all active givers because of some reason. If theymos add some merit source I think must be better if he adds in other local boards who suffering to get merit.
Cause many local boards only have a few or worst 1 merit source. But in overall there's still generous giver in the global section all we need to do is report unmerited post/thread so that some active merit source take an action.


I am not sure if all of them are active or not. But Bitcointalk is a large community. Even if all of them are active, I doubt maybe they cannot cover the whole community. I don't know about others, But I am upset about my local thread. There are a lot of Potential good members. I know A few Local boards and thread has Dedicated Merit Sources. But we do not have any merit source for our local thread. There is a Pending Merit Source Application by @BitcoinDream. I would like to quote one of my Post From there for everyone;

BUMP, All the way up.

We were expecting a dedicated local board. An application has been pending for a while. We Bangladeshis are still limited to one thread. We have no local board. Some countries do not have local boards. There is only one reason. High-rank members are not active in this thread. The thread creator created it as self-moderated, and he himself is not active. As a result, even though there is a low-quality post (One Line Post), there is no one to watch. There are only 2-3 active brothers, of which Little_Mouse & Review Master brothers are the most active in this thread. The local board application has been pending for a while now but is not being approved. Just because most of the high-ranked members don't contribute there. Here are a few reasons,

If you visit the Local board often, You will see a lot of Questions raised by newbies. They ask a lot of things about bitcoin but the reality is most of the member doesn't reply to them just because they are newbies. This is true that when you will give a lot of effort to writing a good post and only newbies read that, You won't get merited. I think this is the only reason why newbies don't get their questions answer. If your board has few High-rank members, Then the case is a bit different. If you write a good post on the local board, Your Other good ranked local board mate will appreciate your post. But, If there are only a few people. Your post won't be appreciated. This is the reason why people don't contribute to their local board. I think Our Merit source Members should visit Local boards more Often and take a look.


Look like we are not going to get a Merit source in near future.  Sad
Look like a bunch of Merit sources are already engaged on this thread. I am seeking attention from Our Respectable Merit sources @LoyceV, @The Pharmacist, @suchmoon, @Royce777. I am here to share a few stats

Number of Post Per Local Board


Merit Per Post Ratio


*This data could be wrong, I will update as soon as I get an update from Rikafip.

Even if everyone spent all their sMerit, the merit system would eventually run out of sMerit. Without merit sources, the total amount of merit that could be sent would be appropriately (but under) the amount of merit that was air dropped.

Right. Agree with you. I think everyone knows how the Merit system works.


legendary
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But for those merit holders who are still active in this forum, it is very unfortunate to know they don't care about spending their sMerit. Well, they may think they have no obligation to send their sMerit, but what's the purpose of holding it? No worth of holding sMerit, it is not BTC.  Grin 

Ordinary users (not merit sources) don't have an obligation to send those sMerits so there is nothing wrong with those users who don't. Maybe they don't have the time or just don't care about the merit system.

I've got no problem with those so-called merit hodlers.  Everyone's got their own opinion of the system and no one is required to participate in it, so I wouldn't be quick to lay a guilt trip on them.  Just my opinion.

Zaktly.

This is a discussion forum. All those extra trinkets like merits etc are great for those who care but I'd take one contributing non-spamming merit-hoarding member over 3000000 account-farming merit-hunting spammers any day.
copper member
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I listed only Active members. Smiley
Yeah, and it was inevitable that what you listed would happen.  Not everyone here cares about the merit system, and I doubt Theymos expected everyone was going to.  So yeah, merit sources are a necessity to keep the whole machine greased and operating smoothly--and obviously Theymos was very forward-looking in having members volunteer to be sources.

I've got no problem with those so-called merit hodlers.  Everyone's got their own opinion of the system and no one is required to participate in it, so I wouldn't be quick to lay a guilt trip on them.  Just my opinion.
Even if everyone spent all their sMerit, the merit system would eventually run out of sMerit. Without merit sources, the total amount of merit that could be sent would be appropriately (but under) the amount of merit that was air dropped.

Obviously, not everyone will care about anything, but I think the response to implementing the merit system was very strong. I think a lot of farmers pushback on the merit system pretty strongly (they also tried to use their air dropped sMerit to their advantage, often without success).
sr. member
Activity: 1148
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Right. But, As far I know we have 111 Merit sources only. it's been a long time since theymos didn't add any new merit sources.

Yes, we have 111 merit sources but not all active givers because of some reason. If theymos add some merit source I think must be better if he adds in other local boards who suffering to get merit.
Cause many local boards only have a few or worst 1 merit source. But in overall there's still generous giver in the global section all we need to do is report unmerited post/thread so that some active merit source take an action.
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