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sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
August 28, 2013, 05:54:26 PM
I hope a lot of people will ask for a refund, in that way, the group buys will receive their chips faster Wink
(as I suspect that refunds for group buys are not practically possible)

speak to the group buyer who is responsible for that.

So the "chips are stuck at customs" statement was a lie, he publicly stated a lie to all his investors.  Every judge in every jurisdiction loves that kind of stuff.
Double selling pre-ordered hardware + public lying to investors.
Hope to see you with pirateat40 behind bars.
WE DEMAND A CLEAR DEADLINE FOR REFUNDS, NO EMPTY PROMISES THIS TIME
LOL you coward suddenly you can make refunds, you are afraid of hard time in prison, that's it!

lol! you think if I got the skills to make ASICs don't you think I can run a scam better than this?
to be honest this isn't good for my chi/emotional well being and I'd like to wash my hands of it.

let's hope in the future not doing any pre-sells would solve all these problems.

You don't have the skills to make ASICs, you're a second rate PR hack with delusions of grandeur.
hero member
Activity: 624
Merit: 502
August 28, 2013, 05:54:18 PM


let's hope in the future not making any false promises and communicating would solve all these problems.

sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 251
Avalon ASIC Team
August 28, 2013, 05:52:11 PM
I hope a lot of people will ask for a refund, in that way, the group buys will receive their chips faster Wink
(as I suspect that refunds for group buys are not practically possible)

speak to the group buyer who is responsible for that.

So the "chips are stuck at customs" statement was a lie, he publicly stated a lie to all his investors.  Every judge in every jurisdiction loves that kind of stuff.
Double selling pre-ordered hardware + public lying to investors.
Hope to see you with pirateat40 behind bars.
WE DEMAND A CLEAR DEADLINE FOR REFUNDS, NO EMPTY PROMISES THIS TIME
LOL you coward suddenly you can make refunds, you are afraid of hard time in prison, that's it!

lol! you think if I got the skills to make ASICs don't you think I can run a scam better than this?
to be honest this isn't good for my chi/emotional well being and I'd like to wash my hands of it.

let's hope in the future not doing any pre-sells would solve all these problems.
legendary
Activity: 2800
Merit: 1012
Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
August 28, 2013, 05:51:39 PM
Personally I would love a refund at this point, the faster you can get it out the better.

I do not even mind the 6 Btc I lost for buying 200 chips at .115 off a guy, although this is a shitty way to end this whole debacle.  Man up and offer some sort of deal (like Asicminer does everytime they lower their price in the form of coupons for previous buyers) so that we can all hit the ROI that we paid for.

I honestly think that I could forgive Avalon if they were to make some sort of deal and offer a 2nd chip for every chip ordered or something of that nature.  But leaving us weeks behind after multiple difficulty changes and then offering our money back interest free is pretty low.  You just took a interest free loan, defaulted on it, and then paid back without so much as a "our bad".

Looking at the profitability calculator, ROI with a bitburner OC'ed is still possible, but that is assuming some pretty big if's.  I encourage you to do the right thing in a economy that has been sorely beaten by pre-order promises, please, do the right thing and compensate your buyers and you will make a lot more money in the future, probably a lot of people from these group buys will be happy enough to order again, but mess this up, and you may never see another customer again
hero member
Activity: 746
Merit: 502
Looking for advertising deal
August 28, 2013, 05:49:08 PM
So the "chips are stuck at customs" statement was a lie, he publicly stated a lie to all his investors.  Every judge in every jurisdiction loves that kind of stuff.
Double selling pre-ordered hardware + public lying to investors.
Hope to see you with pirateat40 behind bars.
WE DEMAND A CLEAR DEADLINE FOR REFUNDS, NO EMPTY PROMISES THIS TIME
LOL you coward suddenly you can make refunds, you are afraid of hard time in prison, that's it!
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
Want privacy? Use Monero!
August 28, 2013, 05:48:49 PM
I hope a lot of people will ask for a refund, in that way, the group buys will receive their chips faster Wink
(as I suspect that refunds for group buys are not practically possible)
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
August 28, 2013, 05:47:58 PM
I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

 What is it with certain Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer figureheads, that they have absolutely no sense of irony ?

 BitSyncom should just move to Kansas at this rate and merge with another certain disreputable endeavor...
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 102
CLEARSIGHT- THE #1 BLOCKCHAIN JOB PLATFORM
August 28, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Man, you've got quite some nerve for posting this. A full refund will not solve the issue. Please explain the 1+ million chips delivery that showed up in pictures from June? So, where did they end up?

batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.

RIP
hero member
Activity: 624
Merit: 502
August 28, 2013, 05:46:48 PM
I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Man, you've got quite some nerve for posting this. A full refund will not solve the issue. Please explain the 1+ million chips delivery that showed up in pictures from June? So, where did they end up?

batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.

My address is in my signature, refund me, I'm sick of this. I was nice and calm with you originally, giving you the benefit of the doubt, but your response and constant lack of an apology is sickening.

You can't expect to treat people like this Yifu! You actually seem like a nice guy, I don't think you've done this intentionally, maybe things have got out of hand and are unmanageable! Get out the game whilst you can.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Vertrau in Gott
August 28, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Man, you've got quite some nerve for posting this. A full refund will not solve the issue. Please explain the 1+ million chips delivery that showed up in pictures from June? So, where did they end up?

batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.

Yo wont be smiling at next conference? sadly:(
 Stop refunding, we want to keep the chippies and youve ordered them already (dont you?)
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
August 28, 2013, 05:45:43 PM
batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.



What does bitfury have to do with BitSyncom being late for 2 months with chips?


Will you refund chip buyers like you did refund batch 3 customers?
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
August 28, 2013, 05:45:41 PM

I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Man, you've got quite some nerve for posting this. A full refund will not solve the issue. Please explain the 1+ million chips delivery that showed up in pictures from June? So, where did they end up?

batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.
Good to see you respond, way better than silence.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
August 28, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Man, you've got quite some nerve for posting this. A full refund will not solve the issue. Please explain the 1+ million chips delivery that showed up in pictures from June? So, where did they end up?

batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.

So how long will it take to process those 'refunds' on this refund form?...
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
August 28, 2013, 05:43:46 PM
 Shocked Wow,is all I can say...............other than........................... Roll Eyes

If Y I FU refunds the chips,it'll be another 2-3 months before we see the refund  Roll Eyes

No more Avalon for me............  Angry
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 251
Avalon ASIC Team
August 28, 2013, 05:42:35 PM
I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Man, you've got quite some nerve for posting this. A full refund will not solve the issue. Please explain the 1+ million chips delivery that showed up in pictures from June? So, where did they end up?

batch 3? the amount was never 1+ million chips. if one 1+ million chips did show up in june, none of this would be happening and difficulty would NOT be this low, do some math.

also people seem to not make the connect to sudden raise of difficulty to us shipping batch 3 and bitfury's http://ghash.io pool coming online...

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
August 28, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
that number stopped forwarding a while ago, since people are so hell bend on thinking we are selling chips to somebody in china first I'll address that.

there is a lot of people who bought chips purely for reselling, however the stock is 10k or so at most like all the other orders. I hope people did not think only people outside of china bought Avalon chips. ( out of the 800k chips, more than 50% are chinese orders.)

In addition, these resellers only have small quantity of chips ( since we didn't ship that many yet.) whether is alibaba or the chinese forums, I'd love to see anyone make a large purchase from these "resellers", because they simply do not have the chips, despise what they may advertise.

In other news, we are shipping as per usual like our last update and are doing the best we could but probably simply going to offer full refund soon, I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Is this the official update we've been awaiting since August 9?  Did it take you 19 days to write these 6 sentences?
full member
Activity: 202
Merit: 100
August 28, 2013, 05:35:44 PM

My thinking is that if we keep calling him, leaving him voicemails and pressuring him to address the issues he will step up.


How long before he changes phone number?

spiccioli



that number stopped forwarding a while ago, since people are so hell bend on thinking we are selling chips to somebody in china first I'll address that.

there is a lot of people who bought chips purely for reselling, however the stock is 10k or so at most like all the other orders. I hope people did not think only people outside of china bought Avalon chips. ( out of the 800k chips, more than 50% are chinese orders.)

In addition, these resellers only have small quantity of chips ( since we didn't ship that many yet.) whether is alibaba or the chinese forums, I'd love to see anyone make a large purchase from these "resellers", because they simply do not have the chips, despise what they may advertise.

In other news, we are shipping as per usual like our last update and are doing the best we could but probably simply going to offer full refund soon, I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Ya know what?  I don't even care if I get banned for this; it needs to be said.
Go fuck yourself.  Go fuck yourself with a rusty goddamn kitchen knife, you rank amateur.

All anyone has asked for was for YOUR COMPANY TO HOLD UP TO ITS COMMITMENTS.
Ya know, how you posted a 'no bs' bulk chip order policy?  9-10 weeks lead time, no refunds, no games, no bs?

So much for no bs.  You just can't admit that you / your company failed to hold up their end of the bargain, failed to give prompt and clear communication as to what was going on, and brought the entire situation upon yourselves.  What did you think was going to happen, everyone was just going to be happy go lucky about having deadlines blown with no communication or answers as to why?
YES, sometimes things happen.  Delays happen.  It's the way it is.  But when you're dealing with someone purporting to be a business, you usually expect at least some communication in a PROMPT fashion - not this sit and let everyone stew and worry and speculate for a few weeks, pop in with excuses and promises of shipping again by end of week, and then disappear again for a few more weeks before popping in again with more excuses and saying oh now we're shipping again like we said we would be a week or 2 ago, and blaming the community and your own customers for YOUR failings.


Of you ban Silvas, ban me too for thinking same.
full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
August 28, 2013, 05:33:31 PM
In other news, we are shipping as per usual like our last update and are doing the best we could but probably simply going to offer full refund soon, I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Here is nothing toxic. Just explain in detail and honestly at what stage are the chip orders...
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
August 28, 2013, 05:31:10 PM

My thinking is that if we keep calling him, leaving him voicemails and pressuring him to address the issues he will step up.


How long before he changes phone number?

spiccioli



that number stopped forwarding a while ago, since people are so hell bend on thinking we are selling chips to somebody in china first I'll address that.

there is a lot of people who bought chips purely for reselling, however the stock is 10k or so at most like all the other orders. I hope people did not think only people outside of china bought Avalon chips. ( out of the 800k chips, more than 50% are chinese orders.)

In addition, these resellers only have small quantity of chips ( since we didn't ship that many yet.) whether is alibaba or the chinese forums, I'd love to see anyone make a large purchase from these "resellers", because they simply do not have the chips, despise what they may advertise.

In other news, we are shipping as per usual like our last update and are doing the best we could but probably simply going to offer full refund soon, I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Ya know what?  I don't even care if I get banned for this; it needs to be said.
Go fuck yourself.  Go fuck yourself with a rusty goddamn kitchen knife, you rank amateur.

All anyone has asked for was for YOUR COMPANY TO HOLD UP TO ITS COMMITMENTS.
Ya know, how you posted a 'no bs' bulk chip order policy?  9-10 weeks lead time, no refunds, no games, no bs?

So much for no bs.  You just can't admit that you / your company failed to hold up their end of the bargain, failed to give prompt and clear communication as to what was going on, and brought the entire situation upon yourselves.  What did you think was going to happen, everyone was just going to be happy go lucky about having deadlines blown with no communication or answers as to why?
YES, sometimes things happen.  Delays happen.  It's the way it is.  But when you're dealing with someone purporting to be a business, you usually expect at least some communication in a PROMPT fashion - not this sit and let everyone stew and worry and speculate for a few weeks, pop in with excuses and promises of shipping again by end of week, and then disappear again for a few more weeks before popping in again with more excuses and saying oh now we're shipping again like we said we would be a week or 2 ago, and blaming the community and your own customers for YOUR failings.
full member
Activity: 202
Merit: 100
August 28, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
Don't find excuses in words: "other do it also".
It is not acceptable.

What happened to idea "we are not doing this because of money", answer Avalon team!
How many BTC you have received from mining since February?
How big your mining clusters are?

Speak up now, game is over, it is all clear.
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