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March 08, 2024, 05:27:21 PM

There is a limit to which friends and family can help an addict. It’s just like trying to save a drowning man; you’ve got to be careful so as to not get drowned yourself.
Someone that’s not an addict that makes a promise and fails to keep that promise over and over would have a hard time getting people to believe him anymore. Then an addict that makes a promise repeatedly and doesn’t keep it, he’ll never be believed.

Someone with an addiction is going to lose everyone that’s close to him. Everyone has issues of their own and wouldn’t want to get drawn into your bullshit anymore than they have to.
Well it is quite difficult to get rid of addiction to gambling because even in this case what you said is true where family and closest people may indeed be quite helpful when someone wants to get out of the vicious circle where addiction has been in themselves but on the other hand it is only an option to increase support because after all someone who is addicted to gambling can only stop when they have the intention to stop in themselves.

As long as there is no intention to stop, the help from family and closest people will seem useless because they do not have the intention to gamble and only like to appreciate the help of those closest to them but do not eliminate the desire to gamble.
Overcoming gambling addiction has undoubtedly been one of the most difficult things for an addict to do, it's possible to do so but being possible doesn't make it easy.
To Overcome addiction, you need more than just a bunch people around you tryna help you get rid of your addiction. What a person really needs the most is the desire to quit the addiction, this desire always comes from within. You'll need to first take that bold step before someone else can step in to help you.
It's more like planting a seed, no matter the amount of water and sunlight you give that seed, if the soil is infertile, all the water and sunlight would be wasted efforts. If a person doesn't first cultivate that determination, then there's no amount of support from friends and loved ones that can effect any positive changes in the victim's life.
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March 08, 2024, 05:21:02 PM
The indirect victims of gambling addiction are people who care about the gambler. It is on this gambling board that we have read stories like
- a man using his money meant for his wedding for gambling.
- a son using the school fees given to him by his parents for gambling.

As long as the gambler has a family and friends, there will always be indirect victims. It therefore rests on us to help out a brother or a friend who is struggling with gambling addiction that is a way to reduce the indirect effects of gambling.
On the aspect of those stories of those who use their wedding money to play bets and those who use their school fees to play bets or anything else that should have really meant something to them and they end up losing their education or marriage, a set of people are the ones I rate as giving their relatives and family members the most form of disgrace, and for the family to either save themselves from such shame or settle whatever problem their gambling decisions have landed them in. 
 
One thing about these people is that they don't feel ashamed of themselves for what they have done; they just see it as a normal thing that can happen to anyone, but those who are close to them are the ones who feel the most shame.
those people who use their school fees for gambling because gambling have a spirit and when you are addicted in gambling You can do anything to ensure that you have gamble order to make money that is why it is good not to be edited in gambling because if you are addicted in gambling There's nothing will make you not to be participating in gambling almost every day and you have the hope not you are going to win a gambling provided that you have won before that we give you motivation to continue to gamble in order to win another money that you want before
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March 08, 2024, 05:14:36 PM
There are gamblers in almost all societies, and all of us have met a gambling addict at least once in our life. I'm sure we all found them in bad shape on most levels. The problem sometimes get more sophisticaed when about the inability to help these cases, especially in areas where there is not sufficient education about them. Gambling addicts suffer from social stigma and are rarely helped.

They are often family and close friends or in treatment centers specializing in this type of disease. I really wish I could obtain data on the cases of recovery from addiction that have been recorded.
These online discussions can raise awareness for players to gamble wisely and for those around them who suffer from excessive gambling addiction. It is a behavioral addiction and one of the most dangerous diseases.
It is clear, with the current existence of online casino gambling, of course many young people are familiar with gambling and they even gamble in their lives. I'm sure that in all countries there are young people who are addicted to gambling, and if we venture out of town and find a group of young people and we ask about online casino gambling, I think at least one of them will definitely know about it or be familiar with it. if they are addicted at a young age of course it will create problems for their future, it is possible that they will have socialization problems.
Yes, that's true, with online discussions like this I also hope to make them aware so they don't gamble excessively which can be detrimental to themselves, including their future. Many people who have a bad view of gambling are due to the actions of the gamblers themselves who gamble beyond their reasonable limits. They hope to get a big win using the amount of money they bet. However, they tend not to see the risks and impacts of excessive gambling.

Just as there are indirect victims of gambling, there are also indirect harms, such as if a family member is addicted to gambling and practices it openly within the family. It is not surprising that someone learns gambling out of curiosity and becomes addicted as well. There are many cases in which there is more than one person addicted to gambling in the same family. This would definitely be enough to destroy her.
Also, many cases of domestic violence have been recorded in families with gambling addicts. All studies show that cases of addiction may lead, in advanced stages, to a person being aggressive in his attitudes and behaviors.
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March 08, 2024, 04:47:32 PM

There is a limit to which friends and family can help an addict. It’s just like trying to save a drowning man; you’ve got to be careful so as to not get drowned yourself.
Someone that’s not an addict that makes a promise and fails to keep that promise over and over would have a hard time getting people to believe him anymore. Then an addict that makes a promise repeatedly and doesn’t keep it, he’ll never be believed.

Someone with an addiction is going to lose everyone that’s close to him. Everyone has issues of their own and wouldn’t want to get drawn into your bullshit anymore than they have to.
Well it is quite difficult to get rid of addiction to gambling because even in this case what you said is true where family and closest people may indeed be quite helpful when someone wants to get out of the vicious circle where addiction has been in themselves but on the other hand it is only an option to increase support because after all someone who is addicted to gambling can only stop when they have the intention to stop in themselves.

As long as there is no intention to stop, the help from family and closest people will seem useless because they do not have the intention to gamble and only like to appreciate the help of those closest to them but do not eliminate the desire to gamble.
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March 08, 2024, 04:43:18 PM
Partners in dependency - Relatives often try to "understand" the addict and help him, by paying off his debts, while accepting his promise to stop gambling, a promise he is unable to keep. More than once, family members come to the aid process, becoming partners so that they become “addicted” to the therapeutic process. But help works in exactly the opposite direction instead of helping the gambler wean off, they perpetuate his condition. These partners, such as parents or spouses, may find themselves in great distress that requires treatment.


There is a limit to which friends and family can help an addict. It’s just like trying to save a drowning man; you’ve got to be careful so as to not get drowned yourself.
Someone that’s not an addict that makes a promise and fails to keep that promise over and over would have a hard time getting people to believe him anymore. Then an addict that makes a promise repeatedly and doesn’t keep it, he’ll never be believed.

Someone with an addiction is going to lose everyone that’s close to him. Everyone has issues of their own and wouldn’t want to get drawn into your bullshit anymore than they have to.
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March 08, 2024, 04:40:40 PM
There are gamblers in almost all societies, and all of us have met a gambling addict at least once in our life. I'm sure we all found them in bad shape on most levels. The problem sometimes get more sophisticaed when about the inability to help these cases, especially in areas where there is not sufficient education about them. Gambling addicts suffer from social stigma and are rarely helped.

They are often family and close friends or in treatment centers specializing in this type of disease. I really wish I could obtain data on the cases of recovery from addiction that have been recorded.
These online discussions can raise awareness for players to gamble wisely and for those around them who suffer from excessive gambling addiction. It is a behavioral addiction and one of the most dangerous diseases.
That is the societal reality with the pervasive presence of gambling and the unfortunate reality of encountering gambling addicts. It's true that gambling addiction can have severe consequences that impacts people on multiple levels and often leaves them in distressing situations. The lack of awareness and understanding about gambling addiction can contribute to social stigma that makes it difficult for those affected to seek and receive the help they need. But this happens because gamblers are also commonly not socialized people.

People should acknowledge the importance of providing support and resources for gambling addicts, whether through family and friends or specialized treatment centers. There should be an awareness about gambling addiction, education on its causes and effects, and accessibility for support services as the essential steps toward addressing this pervasive issue and providing hope for those struggling with addiction.
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March 08, 2024, 04:33:13 PM
The indirect victims of gambling addiction are people who care about the gambler. It is on this gambling board that we have read stories like
- a man using his money meant for his wedding for gambling.
- a son using the school fees given to him by his parents for gambling.

As long as the gambler has a family and friends, there will always be indirect victims. It therefore rests on us to help out a brother or a friend who is struggling with gambling addiction that is a way to reduce the indirect effects of gambling.
On the aspect of those stories of those who use their wedding money to play bets and those who use their school fees to play bets or anything else that should have really meant something to them and they end up losing their education or marriage, a set of people are the ones I rate as giving their relatives and family members the most form of disgrace, and for the family to either save themselves from such shame or settle whatever problem their gambling decisions have landed them in. 
 
One thing about these people is that they don't feel ashamed of themselves for what they have done; they just see it as a normal thing that can happen to anyone, but those who are close to them are the ones who feel the most shame.
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March 08, 2024, 04:27:56 PM
Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?
The indirect victims of gambling addiction are people who care about the gambler. It is on this gambling board that we have read stories like
- a man using his money meant for his wedding for gambling.
- a son using the school fees given to him by his parents for gambling.

As long as the gambler has a family and friends, there will always be indirect victims. It therefore rests on us to help out a brother or a friend who is struggling with gambling addiction that is a way to reduce the indirect effects of gambling.
Sometimes when I read the things that gamblers do, it's just amazes me and I don't know how someone let themselves get so addicted to till the part of actually selling their properties and even cancelling their marriage plans because of gambling, I mean these things are really crazy. As a brother or sister, friend and children of an addict, you would also suffer a great portion to the unwholesome behavior and character of that gambler because all the benefits that you are supposed to enjoy is being spoilt by that one crazy habit.
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March 08, 2024, 04:22:12 PM
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regardless of age and sometimes even children who Underage people are already involved in this type of gambling and the public seems to be very familiar with slot games.
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Yes, this does not look at age, even many underage children play it like ordinary games.
This is actually the main focus, when gambling games become common games and the role of government is not good enough in managing gambling games like this.

Everyone can access it easily, just with a smartphone, and play using coins earned for free the first time of the game,
but this will run out and eventually will buy the Chips sold by the game reseller.

I also like slot games, but of course there are limits, this has become a general game realm,
not a special game and can only be accessed on gambling websites that limit the age of its users.

One of the biggest causes that affect it in my opinion is in terms of the environment and also social media, which maybe we also know that nowadays most children who are minors spend more time playing social media or watching YouTube shows after school, and there are so many sites that do large promotions in several social media which are clearly very likely for a child who is still underage to eventually be influenced and involved in gambling.

We hope that the government can really limit or even prohibit promotional impressions made by online casinos on several social media because after all it has a very negative impact and influence on someone who is underage and it can have an impact on their personality and future, and also on the other hand the role of parents is also very important where parents must be able to limit the activities carried out by their children, especially in the use of smart phones, because after all prevention is always better than cure. In the event that you're looking to get a new home, you'll want to make sure that you've got a good idea of the kind of home you're looking for, and that you've got a good idea of the kind of home you want, But for the problem of risk I think this type of game is much greater than other types of gambling because there are so many temptations and things that look tempting that it is very difficult to ignore but it is difficult to become a reality and to get a win you have to be really lucky, many gamblers who run out of large amounts of money in just one session because of the difficulty of controlling emotions when something that looks tempting is very difficult to get.
One of the main things that makes parenting would really be challenging is that you would really be needing to check your kids or children because in todays era then it would really be that so hard
to avoid for those kids not to see those things and not only on the things they do see online but also into those people who are in surrounding on which doing that gambling activity.
Anyone could really be able to influence you on which even if you are adult then you are really that prone into such possibility. Gambling addicts wont really be minding about into those people who would really be that affected or would be influenced on what they are doing. They would really be minding on their own interest in mind and people around could neither be affected or not.
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March 08, 2024, 03:54:46 PM
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regardless of age and sometimes even children who Underage people are already involved in this type of gambling and the public seems to be very familiar with slot games.
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Yes, this does not look at age, even many underage children play it like ordinary games.
This is actually the main focus, when gambling games become common games and the role of government is not good enough in managing gambling games like this.

Everyone can access it easily, just with a smartphone, and play using coins earned for free the first time of the game,
but this will run out and eventually will buy the Chips sold by the game reseller.

I also like slot games, but of course there are limits, this has become a general game realm,
not a special game and can only be accessed on gambling websites that limit the age of its users.

One of the biggest causes that affect it in my opinion is in terms of the environment and also social media, which maybe we also know that nowadays most children who are minors spend more time playing social media or watching YouTube shows after school, and there are so many sites that do large promotions in several social media which are clearly very likely for a child who is still underage to eventually be influenced and involved in gambling.

We hope that the government can really limit or even prohibit promotional impressions made by online casinos on several social media because after all it has a very negative impact and influence on someone who is underage and it can have an impact on their personality and future, and also on the other hand the role of parents is also very important where parents must be able to limit the activities carried out by their children, especially in the use of smart phones, because after all prevention is always better than cure. In the event that you're looking to get a new home, you'll want to make sure that you've got a good idea of the kind of home you're looking for, and that you've got a good idea of the kind of home you want, But for the problem of risk I think this type of game is much greater than other types of gambling because there are so many temptations and things that look tempting that it is very difficult to ignore but it is difficult to become a reality and to get a win you have to be really lucky, many gamblers who run out of large amounts of money in just one session because of the difficulty of controlling emotions when something that looks tempting is very difficult to get.
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March 08, 2024, 10:14:30 AM


As with any addiction, the effects of addiction to games of chance and betting do not fall on the gambler alone. It affects the family, friends, relatives, and everyone around him, and may lead to the deterioration of their conditions.
Many individuals who struggle with gambling addiction find themselves entangled in a cycle of debt. When they exhaust their funds for betting, their immediate solution often involves seeking loans to sustain their habit. Despite the looming burden of debt, the fear of accumulating more obligations fails to deter them from indulging further in gambling activities. Tragically, a significant portion of this debt ends up being shouldered by their families, who later bear the financial consequences of their loved one's addiction.Thus, the vicious cycle perpetuates, with the gambler sinking deeper into debt while their family members bear the brunt of the financial strain caused by their compulsive behavior.

Gambling and accumulated debts  lead the gambler to a moral collapse that may even amount to an existential threat to family members.

Addiction to gambling frequently pushes sufferers into a debt cycle where their need to gamble takes precedence over sound money management. The first thing a gambler does when their money runs out is look for loans to keep fueling their addiction. As a result, they lose interest in the debt they accrue since they are too busy betting on their next big idea to be frugal. Sadly, these debts usually fall on their families, who are then left to deal with the financial fallout.As a result of loved ones having to deal with the fallout from the gambler's uncontrolled conduct, a cycle of financial pressure and emotional upheaval is perpetuated.

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March 08, 2024, 08:58:40 AM
Hi community,

As with any addiction, the effects of addiction to games of chance and betting do not fall on the gambler alone. It affects the family, friends, relatives, and everyone around him, and may lead to the deterioration of their conditions.
Sure, gambling addiction doesn’t affect only the gambler, it has negative impacts on people close to them. Money that’s supposed to be spent on family members, addicted gamblers will end up spending the money that is supposed to be spent on their family members on gambling, leaving them suffering, most of them don’t even provide for the family. The money that is supposed to be used to provide food items for their family members will end up being used for gambling. Some of them do sell their properties, like houses and other valuable things, leaving their family members homeless and suffering.

Gambling and accumulated debts  lead the gambler to a moral collapse that may even amount to an existential threat to family members.
Most addicted gamblers are in debt because they have no money left to gamble with, so they end up taking loans just to keep on gambling, hoping to hit a jackpot so that they will be able to repay the loan that they took, but they do end up losing everything, and they won’t have any way to pay back the loan that they took.
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March 08, 2024, 08:58:00 AM
Of course gambling addiction is something that both the gambler and people close to him suffer. Sometimes some persons may think that the only one affected by gambling addiction is the addict himself but this is not true due to the fact that the irresponsibility of a gambler indirectly affects people close to him especially family members or close relatives.
Aside from the fact that gambling addiction brings rise to unnecessary loss of funds on the part of the addict, making him unable to do certain important things that require financial solution, it also creates a form of vacuum between the addict and his loved ones. People that we love who are also close to us love to always spend time with us and if unfortunately you are an addict you end up spending more time in gambling activities that you spend with your loved ones which leads to distancing in your relationship with them.
So as an individual who has a companion or close acquaintance or relative who is addicted to gambling, we must have our own decision and plan in life, let's not let the people around us affect or influence us because we have different mindset than those people who always thinking about money, how to win and of course, gambling. The truth is, the most affected in this situation are those normal people who are not involved in gambling, why? Because they see the situation and they see what is happening and the problems that come in their lives, they are the ones who feel the most stress every time their relative does something wrong because of his gambling addiction.
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March 08, 2024, 08:28:47 AM
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regardless of age and sometimes even children who Underage people are already involved in this type of gambling and the public seems to be very familiar with slot games.
-snip-
Yes, this does not look at age, even many underage children play it like ordinary games.
This is actually the main focus, when gambling games become common games and the role of government is not good enough in managing gambling games like this.

Everyone can access it easily, just with a smartphone, and play using coins earned for free the first time of the game,
but this will run out and eventually will buy the Chips sold by the game reseller.

I also like slot games, but of course there are limits, this has become a general game realm,
not a special game and can only be accessed on gambling websites that limit the age of its users.



Unfortunately, with the advance of technology and online casinos, it has become quite common in our society. I personally haven't witnessed such a case myself, but I have heard similar ones from acquaintances and, of course, on local news internet pages.
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Advances in technology have indeed made everything easier and this also makes it easier for games that should not be played by children,
can reach their hands and become games that will make them addicted.

Cases of addiction due to slot games have occurred a lot and even made someone commit suicide.
This is a problem that needs to be handled, it needs to be limited so that it is not played by underage children.
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March 08, 2024, 07:56:56 AM
To any indirect victims of gambling addiction out there, do not let your future depend on anyone, the addicted is been trapped by his own mind and they are battling to come out of it, if you have tried so much to bring them back and it fail, it's time to make decisions for yourself, be less dependant on anyone, go out there and start making ways for yourself.

I believe that no one should be affected by addicted gamblers, even if they are your father or siblings, you should start depending on yourself and make ways, some people don't have anyone, they are raised by the street, or in homeless locations, they strive and survive, don't let an addict who was supposed to be your sponsor be the downfall of your own life.

From this moment onward, make sure that you rely solely on yourself, this will make you to get stronger, always remember that some people don't even have a soul to help them, try to stand for yourself only and if you fail, the brave enough to take the blame, not on someone else.
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March 08, 2024, 07:43:14 AM
Of course gambling addiction is something that both the gambler and people close to him suffer. Sometimes some persons may think that the only one affected by gambling addiction is the addict himself but this is not true due to the fact that the irresponsibility of a gambler indirectly affects people close to him especially family members or close relatives.
Aside from the fact that gambling addiction brings rise to unnecessary loss of funds on the part of the addict, making him unable to do certain important things that require financial solution, it also creates a form of vacuum between the addict and his loved ones. People that we love who are also close to us love to always spend time with us and if unfortunately you are an addict you end up spending more time in gambling activities that you spend with your loved ones which leads to distancing in your relationship with them.
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March 08, 2024, 07:15:26 AM
Of the many who answered who was indirectly affected by gambling addicts, the average answer was those who were close to the addict himself, whether it was family or friends in his neighborhood, maybe for family it must be clear because they have blood relations and other things like that, including friendship.

The funny thing about friends who are indirect victims of gambling addicts is that when someone who does not know gambling but hangs out with gambling addicts, he will be said to be a gambler too by residents, this claim often occurs in environments where gambling is considered very bad, including in my neighborhood, even though that person does not know gambling at all but is also labeled as a gambler because the gambling addict who has been recognized by residents hangs out with him.
Plus sometimes the act can actually rub off the person who doesn't know anything about gambling but seems to be comfortable with the addict himself playing these games and that's why some people tend to labels these friends as gamblers themselves because I know one thing for and thats the fact that you can't be hanging out with a gambler everything and actually not get influence to get involved in the act yourself especially when the gambler always tell you about his winning and never release the loses that he faces.
hahaha... That's right, the beginning of my acquaintance with gambling was also hanging out with gamblers, and they always showed and showed the game and victory so that I was interested in trying it and with a long time I experienced being a gambling addict, but back then it was not really familiar with crypto casinos because most in my neighborhood mostly only used sites available locally to gamble, But indeed it is contagious and influences us to be interested in gambling, and yes the claims of people out there when we gather with gambling people are also not wrong, because we will definitely be entangled in gambling and our name is bad if we are in an environment that strongly condemns gambling.
If you are someone whose that person being addicted or really that doing gambling and you do really goes with him on active manner or too often on which it would really be something that will really be influential.
If you wont really be that careful then you would really be finding yourself that doing gambling which you would really be getting in line with him or someone. This is why it would be always best that you should really know when it comes to moderation when it comes to money spending. There are ones who are really that easily been that influenced and there are ones who arent.

It would really be just that depending on how they would really be making out such actions because not all would really be having that kind of level of control when it comes to things. Gambling addiction is something
that you cant really be able resist if you are really that having those thoughts and insights towards gambling as a source of income. You would really be finding yourself on playing
on it sooner or later and this is something that you do need to consider and look out.
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March 08, 2024, 06:54:19 AM
Re: Indirect victims of gambling addiction
This is an excellent title, it attracted me to read the thread.

Hi community,

As with any addiction, the effects of addiction to games of chance and betting do not fall on the gambler alone. It affects the family, friends, relatives, and everyone around him, and may lead to the deterioration of their conditions.
There's a Nigerian adage that said; "The embarrassment a mad man brings has no effect on the mad man, but rather to the family members". This is because it is the family members that are sane to receive the embarrassment.

The gambler invests his attention in gambling at the expense of the spouse, whom he sometimes repays to cover his infidelity.
I'm glad to know a wider definition of infidelity. I have thought that infidelity is unfaithfulness to spouse while been faithful with another. Not knowing someone can be faithful to gambling.

Gamblers do not hesitate to sell property to finance their debts, take loans from relatives without any ability to repay the debts, and in extreme cases they may even physically harm family members.
Not all gamblers. You can simply put that, gambling addicts do not hesitate...

Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?

The society at large because of child abuse, increase rate of crime and more. These are the negative effects of gambling.
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March 08, 2024, 06:40:21 AM
Of the many who answered who was indirectly affected by gambling addicts, the average answer was those who were close to the addict himself, whether it was family or friends in his neighborhood, maybe for family it must be clear because they have blood relations and other things like that, including friendship.

The funny thing about friends who are indirect victims of gambling addicts is that when someone who does not know gambling but hangs out with gambling addicts, he will be said to be a gambler too by residents, this claim often occurs in environments where gambling is considered very bad, including in my neighborhood, even though that person does not know gambling at all but is also labeled as a gambler because the gambling addict who has been recognized by residents hangs out with him.
Plus sometimes the act can actually rub off the person who doesn't know anything about gambling but seems to be comfortable with the addict himself playing these games and that's why some people tend to labels these friends as gamblers themselves because I know one thing for and thats the fact that you can't be hanging out with a gambler everything and actually not get influence to get involved in the act yourself especially when the gambler always tell you about his winning and never release the loses that he faces.
hahaha... That's right, the beginning of my acquaintance with gambling was also hanging out with gamblers, and they always showed and showed the game and victory so that I was interested in trying it and with a long time I experienced being a gambling addict, but back then it was not really familiar with crypto casinos because most in my neighborhood mostly only used sites available locally to gamble, But indeed it is contagious and influences us to be interested in gambling, and yes the claims of people out there when we gather with gambling people are also not wrong, because we will definitely be entangled in gambling and our name is bad if we are in an environment that strongly condemns gambling.
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March 08, 2024, 06:39:49 AM
With advances in online gambling technology, it has had a huge impact on the growth of gamblers in various circles and ages as well as the increasing number of cases and addicts becoming more rampant.
We can distinguish the technological progress of online gambling which continues to develop from before, and currently in my opinion online gambling, especially slot machines, is no longer foreign to various groups and ages because everyone does it because of its convenience. Even those who are not involved or do not know directly about slot gambling are targets of ridicule or insults because many negative cases have occurred.
And often slot gambling addicts not only harm themselves, but also harm their closest friends, family and partners. Because they will
being a target who can make money by continuing to gamble after everything they have is gone and there is nothing left, and that really upsets them and can affect their socialization.
And when everyone doesn't care, the last resort is a crime just to get money to continue gambling.
And actually their mistake was gambling without realizing the risks involved, which they should have anticipated and been able to control themselves if there were signs. And for everything that happens, I don't blame advances in online gambling technology, but rather the gamblers themselves who play excessively beyond their limits and think that gambling can make money when in reality it's the opposite.
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