Topic: Indirect victims of gambling addiction - page 8. (Read 1257 times)

Yes, if they are given a sense of reality, they can learn to exercise controlling gambling. But almost everyone has an idea about gamblers that they know everything and make any decisions. Many of the addicted gamblers do not have a good financial situation but when they gamble and lose, they do not hesitate to gamble even with the money to cover the family expenses. He knows that he has no way of recovering any of that money if he loses, but he still takes part in the bet. Once a gambler becomes addicted it is difficult but not impossible to recover from it. If a small portion of income is used for gambling on a monthly basis, the gambler's effort to recover will be reduced even if he loses, but if he loses using more money, he will definitely lose more.

Gambling addiction can affect not just the gambler, but also their family, friend and loved ones. It can also impact workplaces and communities, with decreased  productivity, absenteeism, and negative impacts on mental and emotional well-being.

A similar situation happened to a bet company agent who owned a bet shop, although I didn't knew him directly but overhead him while he was making a complain to a friend of his about one of the boys he employed as cashier to work for him, how the cashier has at different time's used the money in one of the computers he is in charge of to play virtual games for himself and due to this he loses money that's above his pay cheque before the end of the month. And the young man was complaining of how the employees'  attitude has affected his usual monthly profit from the business and has therefore decided to sack him in order to save his business.

Something about gambling addicts, they are never to be trusted with access to money, it doesn't matter how big or little the amount of the money could be they just don't think about the impending consequences should they lose that money, all their focus is just to satisfy their urge and it's others that later suffer the negative impact of their actions. 

with the problem of addiction, of course it will harm us primarily, where the loss can be in various aspects, with finances that will definitely become a mess, where when we have a certain amount of money all we can think about is gambling. Therefore, it is possible that gambling will only be done when you have a certain amount of money, while the needs that should be paid attention to may be put aside first. If you are addicted to gambling then it is very likely that the priority will be gambling. Many people experience big losses because they are too ambitious in gambling, because if we are too ambitious it can sometimes end up trapping us. What you say is correct, of course we have responsibilities towards our own family, even if we are not married, there is still no harm in us being able to help with the family's finances or economy, besides, parents will be happy and proud if we can help with the family's finances or economy. When we become addicted to gambling, of course the bad effects can spread to the family, such as finances falling apart or relationships becoming bad. Addiction tends to turn a person into a more stubborn person, and of course this can have an impact on family relationships.

I think if they are still addicted and don't have awareness, chances are they will only ask for financial help, they will ask for money to go back to gambling. Unless they have the awareness to recover from their addiction, maybe at that time they need help from their family such as encouragement so that they can remain consistent in their recovery. It is also clear that the bad effects of gambling addiction will not only be experienced by the main perpetrator, of course the bad effects can occur on the people around him.

With gambling addictions, a person will become addicted to gambling by watching gambling every day better to leave gambling companions and stop going anywhere related to gambling. Play is a fun thing but not all games are fun. such as gambling. Although gambling is played in the name of gambling it is essentially something different from playing. Gambling is a game with which the issues of addiction and addiction come up very strongly. Once an addiction has developed both time and energy are wasted on gambling. Even after hundreds of attempts there is no change in the habit.

That's not unfair but that's how relationships happen, so it's important for us to remind our family or friends so that we are not affected too, after all we have a sense of responsibility to people who are close to us especially family, surely we are affected.

Yes, unless you don't care about them, and ignore them when they ask you for help, but still those gambling addicts will ask for help from others who might help them. Maybe there are some couples who don't tolerate it but you also need to know that maybe when your loved one will be in a different situation, it will be quite complicated if you mix it with feelings, but certainly a gambling addict will have a bad impact on his environment.

There will always be indirect victims that will be experienced by people who do not gamble or are innocent, namely the family of the gambler himself, the family is the first person to be harmed because they are dependent on each other. Indeed, the impact of gambling addiction is very large if the gambler is involved in loans, violence and also emotions. It will be increasingly difficult for them to stop and they will become increasingly out of control and even the family will be overwhelmed by their tough attitude and don't feel guilty. The only way is to give him a little encouragement to stop it, but if he doesn't have the intention to stop then it will be useless drain.

I always think that every gambling addict must be taught a life lesson so that they don't become dependent on their family, namely by leaving them alone and letting them live their own life with their gambling and when they are on the verge of ruin and despair they will realize by themselves that gambling has destroyed them. his future and he will finally regret it at that time then his family will help and provide assistance by giving good advice and I am sure he will stop even though it is a little difficult after that of course there will be no more indirect victims

Employers can also be indirect victims of the problems that a gambling addict brings. I remember a long time ago when I once had a gambling addict working for me who I felt I could control, and then I gave him money to go get materials for work for me but he ended up using up all the money for gambling, playing virtual games and squandering it all. I was a victim to his gambling addiction as his employer, because it forced me to spend my personal money to get the materials required for delivery of the customers job. Indirectly as the employer of an addict, I became a victim.

I remember long ago I had a guy in my karate classes, who was really into addictive stuff. Not drugs, but he would play games all day and had given up school. Well, to the eyes of the rest of us it seemed like he was causing problems to his family, but we had no idea what was happening behind closed doors. Turns out his father was really strict and wanted to show a perfect image to the outside world. He would use this guy's daughter as a role model and constantly berate him for now following suit. The guy just wanted to earn a living working as a laborer, have a car, drive around and live a simple life. But this fell short of his father's dreams.

A couple of years later after I had stopped karate I learn that his father died of a heart attack. Immediately I thought that it was his addiction to games and gambling that must have driven his father into this state. But it was only a little later that his mother confessed to our family that his dad was abusive and they had separated, although up until his death he would force her to not admit the truth.

This taught me that tough situations often times make people become addicts. If you have someone struggling with addiction near you, try to help them before they have to take more responsibility. Because surely having responsibility while still addicted and before managing to get out of it can have its consequences, also to other people surrounding the addict.

Yes there are many scenarios that can occur that can connect between a gambling addict and a person who is initially completely unfamiliar with gambling and over time a gambling addict will be able to have an indirect impact on others which in turn makes people enter and fall into consciously and unconsciously, and scenarios like this happen in several places or what it means is that it doesn't just happen once but this kind of scenario will continue to occur over time so that the population of people involved in gambling and also gamblers who enter the addiction phase is increasing.

However this is a concerning situation, the worst thing or possibility is yes as you said that there is a potential to increase crime in a country, this happens and is done by most of the addicted gamblers where they want to gamble but do not have the money to fund their gambling activities, so obviously as we know that addicted gamblers always do not hesitate to do things out of control, They seem to justify all means just to get money to fund their gambling activities in the way that you mentioned, namely robbing, stealing or deceiving others and obviously this will cause a lot of chaos, and the hope is that we hope that the government can pay attention to matters of concern like this and build new rules that are effective enough to reduce the population of gamblers so that the crime rate can decrease.

There is a psychology that says, there people who depends on your success to succeed in life.

This statement applies to gambling addiction, if one becomes addicted to gambling to the extent that he or she couldn't make a living, it's certain that at people whom if he was successful would have become successful too through him may not be successful any more psychologically but it can also be falsifiable.

Imagine that of you make it in life and open a company, and you have 1000 workers depending on the salary you pay them just, imagine that you failed to be successful because of gambling addiction you have indirectly caused a 1000 people to be jobless at some point and at the same time some of the can even become poor and broke forever because you failed go do right by yourself. its just a little truth.

Its because that is mostly the end game of those gamblers, they will eventually end up being addicted just because they let themselves to let loose and let their greed to take over, but sometimes what's making gamblers addicted is because of tthe regret of losing money from gambling and they will try to recover their loss and eventually without a notice that they are letting themselves to become addicted to gambling, but for those addicted to gambling that letting other people around them involve because of his addiction is the worst, it means that the gambler is not in a good state anymore because he doesn't carr about other people around them, normally their family and friends, worst if they already have their own family imagine the situation that family will be in.

So if you can't control yourselves anymore, at least don't let other people be affected and involved in your problems; they may help you, but if they do wake up, it means they are ready to be involved in your chaotic life just to help you.

The community is one of the indirect victims of gambling addiction, the fellowship among the members of the community will turn from good to bad because it breaks the harmony of the community, the community will not tolerate gambling addiction because it will bring a bad image on the community as a whole.
Another one is the work or the company the addicted gambler is working for, because he cannot concentrate on his work his performance will depreciate leading to the company's losses in terms of revenues.
These two are indirect victims of gambling addiction and it will further harm the status of the individual addicted to gambling if he neglects to be a good and productive member of these two institutions.

From the explanation you gave, I see that your explanation focuses more on the family scope, and I think that is very clear. Therefore, here I will try to discuss further within the scope of friendship or association.

“If you associate with a perfumer, you will get his fragrance. However, if you hang out with a blacksmith, you will get sparks whose sparks can hurt yourself, and even if you are not hit by these sparks, at least you will get a very unpleasant smell of smoke." And the same goes for the scope of friendship or social relations. If we are friends with someone who is wise enough, has extensive knowledge and is able to control himself well in every activity he does, including gambling, then we will also get many benefits from that friendship, thus encouraging us to continue to behave positively. However, if we are wrong how to socialize and be friends with a gambling addict, then gradually we will also fall into the same hole, and there are many out there who fall into this bad thing just because of the influence of the wrong friends. And even if we can avoid this gambling addiction, it will still be another bad thing. will follow us, where we will share in the responsibility for the bad things our friends do. For example; we are not gambling addicts, but because we associate with gambling addicts, we are indirectly framed that we are gambling addicts. which could make other people continue to have a negative view of us.

Therefore, be wise in sorting and choosing your relationships.

You can basically sum it up to anyone that the person with addiction interacts with really. At least to the level of where they are either involved with each other everyday, or to the point where said addict can ask for money from the other party with no repercussions. Yes, I'd even include the ones that give loans here, even ones outside of personal relationships e.g., banks/loan sharks. They technically still get affected but I don't think banks (or any proper establishment really) would ever give out a loan to someone with a record of gambling expenditure that big to warrant a loan, it's why credit exists nowadays after all.

But well outside of gambling that's literally what happens even if you just simply exist. You affect everyone you interact with. Addiction simply amplifies one factor/portion of it which is money/financial-related stuff.

You have just dropped a piece that I have been on with, pondering about it whenever I read about gambling addicts. Is it that they prefer the negative aspect of the impact of gambling on them tuan the positive that a whole lot of gamblers that are not addicts are testifying of . In as much as you don't have to be an addict for you be guaranteed a lump win in gambling I see no reason why gamblers should allow themselve's into addiction.

When gambling addictions lead to failure in delivering on ones responsibilities and a rapid change in character that make others uncomfortable, then there will be many victims, most of whom might not even been considered to be victims. For instance, a situation where the addicted gambler becomes aggressive to the family members, then the effect will be felt by the children and many others. Children of gambling addicts whose addiction has gotten to the point of making him aggressive to the family, will surely grow up with  thinking that domestic violence is a normal things. So , I agree that there are indirect victims of gambling addiction which include families and loved ones. .

Paying back their debt and not setting any limit that will help them stop their gambling habit is not doing the gambler any good in the first place; you are just indirectly fueling their actions without even realising it, because as soon as you clear their loan, they will have more opportunity to take more loans and sponsor their gambling addiction.
 
Many fall into this category and think they are helping the person, but rather they are just making things worse and wasting money on the unnecessary.
 
The next set of people who suffer indirectly from all this gambling addiction are those who are close to them; When you have someone like this living close to you, they might not even feel the shame that they are bringing upon themselves, but you who are close to them will be the ones to suffer it the most, as they can't foot their bills and provide for themselves because of their reckless spending on gambling. Most of their bills will be on you, especially when you have a heart of pity.

You actually summed up almost the effects of gambling to the collaterals that ultimately affect the immediate family members whenever a person is addicted to the said act. I guess another sector of people who are indirect victims of gambling are your co-workers.

Once a person gets addicted to gambling, your relationship with your colleagues and friends will be prejudiced greatly given that you will be asking for loans to anyone just to satisfy this urge.

The reason on why I said colleagues is because this was a personal experience to me before. I had this high school friend who was once rich during our youth and he would treat everyone with almost anything. Suddenly during my college years, he would message our friends asking for loans and cash. Then I soon discovered that he suffered this massive gambling debt by borrowing cash from Chinese loan lords that are already threatening against his own life.

That's irresponsible gambling when an addicted gambler disturb that are not gambling addicts and they don't have money to gamble and they keep disturbing those relatives of theirs that they're depending too.

It is a crazy thing and shameful act of a gambler when he does it and then don't have his/her own pocket to pick money for gambling activities.

Those type of gamblers should just be ashamed of themselves when they're finding some fault of themselves and wanting people that surrounds them to feel pity about them.