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legendary
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I don't have the talent @dolphriends has for making custom display cases but I am starting to accumulate cards and needed an inexpensive way to store them safely and still be able to enjoy them.

This is probably old news to the long time card collectors here but for newcomers like me the solution I came up with is to use an Ultra Pro Collector's Album with four pocket platinum pages that fit the Ultra Pro magnetic cases just fine.

After I load the cards into the Ultra Pro magnet cases I plan to cover the cases with BCW Team Bags to prevent accidental opening a tip I learned from Sport Card Storage Tips: Magnet Cases. That 3 inch album will be able to hold more cards than I plan to buy. Everything is available on Amazon. Here is a pic before I started loading cards:



sr. member
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https://youtu.be/QPa_mFIYs3o

Around the 1h 40min he goes over hits from the case and shows 3x no numbers.   Watched some of it previously and didnt put the effort into finding exact pull times but should get you started.

To be honest when I saw the first base hit pulled from an X case I was somewhat disappointed and surprised, seemed odd an unnecessary.  But I know next to nothing about card collecting so meh..

I didn't see the three no' #s pulled, only shown at the end.  Actually anything is always possible as I have found in 25 years of card collecting.  Error cards will show up eventually but, this is the first time I have ever heard of cards showing up in cases where they are not on a checklist.  Anything is possible though.
newbie
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https://youtu.be/QPa_mFIYs3o

Around the 1h 40min he goes over hits from the case and shows 3x no numbers.   Watched some of it previously and didnt put the effort into finding exact pull times but should get you started.

To be honest when I saw the first base hit pulled from an X case I was somewhat disappointed and surprised, seemed odd an unnecessary.  But I know next to nothing about card collecting so meh..
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I don't think he was referencing having found black/red/silver that are ALSO a Brooklyn or NNO, rather a base mini of this variation.  I've pulled a base Brooklyn back from an X case, and guessing my experience is far less than the previous commenters.

Got it, could you post a photo of the base brooklyn back you pulled.  Is it regular size or mini? 

Mini.  Admittedly it was of a baseball player (?!) so I didn't give it much thought.  Check out some case/box breaks on YouTube of Ginter X. I've seen a few of each variation pulled on camera.

If you know of a 2018 allen and ginter X case break where a brooklyn or no # or glow in the dark or base regular card(not black) are pulled please post it here.  This I really want to see   I found nothing on you tube

Thanks
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I don't think he was referencing having found black/red/silver that are ALSO a Brooklyn or NNO, rather a base mini of this variation.  I've pulled a base Brooklyn back from an X case, and guessing my experience is far less than the previous commenters.

Got it, could you post a photo of the base brooklyn back you pulled.  Is it regular size or mini? 

Mini.  Admittedly it was of a baseball player (?!) so I didn't give it much thought.  Check out some case/box breaks on YouTube of Ginter X. I've seen a few of each variation pulled on camera.
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If it is a regular base card with brooklyn back, WOW!!!  Most likely has to be a mini
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I don't think he was referencing having found black/red/silver that are ALSO a Brooklyn or NNO, rather a base mini of this variation.  I've pulled a base Brooklyn back from an X case, and guessing my experience is far less than the previous commenters.

Got it, could you post a photo of the base brooklyn back you pulled.  Is it regular size or mini? 
newbie
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I don't think he was referencing having found black/red/silver that are ALSO a Brooklyn or NNO, rather a base mini of this variation.  I've pulled a base Brooklyn back from an X case, and guessing my experience is far less than the previous commenters.
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Just trying to help to make sure no one is searching in boxes where certain cards don't exist.  The ginter x boxes are very hard to find and are quite expensive.  There are still plenty of the original allen and ginter hobby boxes for around 90.00 to 100.00.   

Good luck treasure seekers Smiley
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Chris,  here is what is available from ginter X for the #83 cryptocurrency, you can verify with beckett or Topps

#83  Regular black base card

#83   black mini

#83   red mini  #/5

#83    silver mini  1/1

Perhaps you are confused about the boxes.  There is the regular allen and ginter retail box and hobby box.  Nothing to do with ginter x. Smiley

No, I'm not confused at all. While I can't speak to the #83 card specifically, I've pulled MULTIPLE Brooklyn Back, NNO, and Glow-in-the-Dark mini cards from the Ginter X boxes. Believe me...I know the difference between the A&G Hobby Box and the Ginter X box. I've cracked SEVERAL of each. Wink

Regards,
Chris

If you have pulled a black mini or red mini with a brooklyn back or no # you have a major treasure.  A must have.  If you pulled the regular brooklyn back or a no # from a ginter x box, save that box, and those wrappers for sure.   Smiley  I thought I knew my stuff 100%,  , learn something new everyday.


legendary
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Chris,  here is what is available from ginter X for the #83 cryptocurrency, you can verify with beckett or Topps

#83  Regular black base card

#83   black mini

#83   red mini  #/5

#83    silver mini  1/1

Perhaps you are confused about the boxes.  There is the regular allen and ginter retail box and hobby box.  Nothing to do with ginter x. Smiley

No, I'm not confused at all. While I can't speak to the #83 card specifically, I've pulled MULTIPLE Brooklyn Back, NNO, and Glow-in-the-Dark mini cards from the Ginter X boxes. Believe me...I know the difference between the A&G Hobby Box and the Ginter X box. I've cracked SEVERAL of each. Wink

Regards,
Chris
legendary
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Yes. Those X boxes are not limited (except for gold border, right?)  The "X" boxes have the silver, red and black minis which will not be found in non-X boxes.

I believe the Ginter X boxes only have the higher end, rarer base-color mini cards — NNO, Brooklyn Back, and Glow-in-the-Dark — as well as the Ginter X exclusive minis — Black, Red (/5), and Silver (1/1).

The lower end, more common base-color mini cards — base, A&G Back, and Black Border — are found in the hobby and retail packs/boxes.

The gold border minis are found in the retail packs/boxes only.

(At least, this is my experience after breaking a few cases/boxes of each flavor.)

Regards,
Chris
sr. member
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Chris,  here is what is available from ginter X for the #83 cryptocurrency, you can verify with beckett or Topps

#83  Regular black base card

#83   black mini

#83   red mini  #/5

#83    silver mini  1/1

Perhaps you are confused about the boxes.  There is the regular allen and ginter retail box and hobby box.  Nothing to do with ginter x. Smiley



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I have to say that the best return on the money was on those mega-size 10x14 posters hand numbered to 99.  Cost $23 and sold for as high as 600 (26x).

I"m sure a few members on this thread bought several dozen and are sitting on a gold mine.
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Let me explain,  there were around 200 cases of the ginter x where the black mini's would be, they sold out in one hour and so a large portion has been opened. The no# comes from the regular allen and ginter as well as ginter x with a much larger population and there probably is about 25% that has been opened.  That is why the black mini's are gone and there is still about 35  of the no #'s still out there.    Hope this helps.  

My clarification is in red.

Regards,
Chris

I get it now. a ginter x case is like seeing a unicorn on leap year day.  Quite rare.

Correct, and the no # is not available from the ginter X

I disagree (which is what I meant to clarify in the red comments above). I've pulled more than one NNO from a Ginter X box.

Regards,
Chris

EDIT: FYI, Ginter X also has the Brooklyn Back minis. I know, because I've pulled more than one of those too.

Yes. Those X boxes are not limited (except for gold border, right?)  The "X" boxes have the silver, red and black minis which will not be found in non-X boxes.  I wish i had known that BEFORE i spent funds on two non-X cases looking for those 3 unicorns.  

One cool think that i noticed with the X box pulls is that when you see an otherwise normal looking mini, it is actually a glow-in-the-dark.

Dolphriends (or some helpful member) has since said that it is cheaper just to buy the cards you want than to go on wild goose chases.  I totally agree now.

legendary
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Let me explain,  there were around 200 cases of the ginter x where the black mini's would be, they sold out in one hour and so a large portion has been opened. The no# comes from the regular allen and ginter as well as ginter x with a much larger population and there probably is about 25% that has been opened.  That is why the black mini's are gone and there is still about 35  of the no #'s still out there.    Hope this helps.  

My clarification is in red.

Regards,
Chris

I get it now. a ginter x case is like seeing a unicorn on leap year day.  Quite rare.

Correct, and the no # is not available from the ginter X

I disagree (which is what I meant to clarify in the red comments above). I've pulled more than one NNO from a Ginter X box.

Regards,
Chris

EDIT: FYI, Ginter X also has the Brooklyn Back minis. I know, because I've pulled more than one of those too.
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Let me explain,  there were around 200 cases of the ginter x where the black mini's would be, they sold out in one hour and so a large portion has been opened. The no# comes from the regular allen and ginter as well as ginter x with a much larger population and there probably is about 25% that has been opened.  That is why the black mini's are gone and there is still about 35  of the no #'s still out there.    Hope this helps. 

My clarification is in red.

Regards,
Chris

I get it now. a ginter x case is like seeing a unicorn on leap year day.  Quite rare.

Correct, and the no # is not available from the ginter X
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Let me explain,  there were around 200 cases of the ginter x where the black mini's would be, they sold out in one hour and so a large portion has been opened. The no# comes from the regular allen and ginter as well as ginter x with a much larger population and there probably is about 25% that has been opened.  That is why the black mini's are gone and there is still about 35  of the no #'s still out there.    Hope this helps. 

My clarification is in red.

Regards,
Chris

I get it now. a ginter x case is like seeing a unicorn on leap year day.  Quite rare.
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Still getting used to the lingo ... anyone have a picture of the no # card being discussed please? Thanks.

Here you go!

legendary
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Let me explain,  there were around 200 cases of the ginter x where the black mini's would be, they sold out in one hour and so a large portion has been opened. The no# comes from the regular allen and ginter as well as ginter x with a much larger population and there probably is about 25% that has been opened.  That is why the black mini's are gone and there is still about 35  of the no #'s still out there.    Hope this helps. 

My clarification is in red.

Regards,
Chris
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