Topic: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W - page 19. (Read 55212 times)
They mined them to shit, enjoy your paperweight
I’m really surprised people still trust Innosilicon with their track record of underperforming miners and slow delivery among many other things. I get we all want cheap miners and competition, but they’ve already been known to deliver less than acceptable products.
The miners were FAR from cheap. At the time of announcement, it cost $10,000 USD for an A5 specced at 30.2 GH/s drawing 750w was definitely overpriced compared to the D3 that had just come out a few days or a week prior at 15 GH/s drawing 1200w. The D3's cost? I believe it was $2600~2700 USD for that first batch.
I think a lot of miners, myself included, wanted to give Innosilicon the benefit of the doubt. IF they delivered on time with promised specs, they'd prove all the haters wrong. Innosilicon proved them all right. You try to give any competitors to Bitmain the benefit of the doubt and you're going to get screwed for it. I hate the way Bitmain is pumping out D3s like candy, flooding the market, and killing the difficulty for us, but I still see them as the lesser evil in every case. At the very least, they deliver on time.
I’m really surprised people still trust Innosilicon with their track record of underperforming miners and slow delivery among many other things. I get we all want cheap miners and competition, but they’ve already been known to deliver less than acceptable products.
I dont thing Innosilicon will keep customer anyway ...
As i can read, what ever comportment of Innosilicon and solution he provide ...
This company cant be trust AT ALL, i never buy your thing cause at my pov it was to expensive.
But with this experience, i never go buy YOUR product competitive or not
This company is a SHAME for regular business
As i can read, what ever comportment of Innosilicon and solution he provide ...
This company cant be trust AT ALL, i never buy your thing cause at my pov it was to expensive.
But with this experience, i never go buy YOUR product competitive or not
This company is a SHAME for regular business
hi i have news for everybody ,after dozens email to innosilicon explaine them the big trouble to us with the dash network raise ,they ask me about this threat in the forum and aske me for the link...we will see what they do for us ,we need be a single voice in that and request a solution for this catastrophe roi .
thx
thx
I think 1 free A5 miner with every A5 miner purchase is the only real compensation they can give, that would still be 5000 USD for each miner which is more than fair to them
0.6 or 0.7 increase hash rate is generous but does not make their product profitable
So it's really Innosilicon's boss's decision; either
1. compensate fairly and retain the loyal customers; use the experience and get better at future product launches so they don't have to compensate
2. Scoop short term profits and abandon pre order loyal customers who will in turn abandon Innosilicon and fill the interenet with permanent negative feedback
Up to them...
Sorry for being negative but if your looking at difficulty now and think its a low ROI were going to get, remember it doesnt stay constant, it only increases with time making ROI worse and worse ...
I'm wondering, how much did you pay for the A5 ?
I did not purchase any of these miners.. but if i remember correctly, they had some really shtty btc/usd rate. I think they were going with the local china rates.. which worked out to around 20% more?
Like i said, my memory is a bit fuzzy, as this was awhile back.
But hey, i think if you bought 10 units they threw in 1 free unit.
I'm wondering, how much did you pay for the A5 ?
Innosilicon is now telling us that if they don't ship our A5 by 30 days after the last day in the shipping window (which for most people who bought in the first batch is apparently Nov 26), then we'll be getting an A4+ as compensation. If they ship within the month after they promised they'd ship them, we get extra miner hashrate, hashpower, or some coupons for you to get scammed by Inno again sometime in the future. This company is the best.
If i remembered correctly, when the inno a5 was up on the website for sale. Wasnt the btc exchange rate based on china exchange rate?
Didnt you guys end up paying like 12kusd in btc for each unit?
My apology if my memory is fuzzy, but i think thats what i calculated out during that time.
Didnt you guys end up paying like 12kusd in btc for each unit?
My apology if my memory is fuzzy, but i think thats what i calculated out during that time.
The a5 is magically ready when it earns <30$ per day.
The a4+ will be just the same.
The difficult increase isn't just due to dr100 and d3 - they've probably been mining with these, who wouldn't? There was a time when that would have yielded 100$+/day per machine.
I'm so glad I didn't buy these. ROI will never occur.
The a4+ will be just the same.
The difficult increase isn't just due to dr100 and d3 - they've probably been mining with these, who wouldn't? There was a time when that would have yielded 100$+/day per machine.
I'm so glad I didn't buy these. ROI will never occur.
hi i have news for everybody ,after dozens email to innosilicon explaine them the big trouble to us with the dash network raise ,they ask me about this threat in the forum and aske me for the link...we will see what they do for us ,we need be a single voice in that and request a solution for this catastrophe roi .
thx
thx
I too am disappointed with them because of the delay
We paid on time (actually in advance) so we should get the miners on time
they were so in a hurry to compete with Bitmain's D3, that knowingly mislead about shipping dates, i am sure We paid on time (actually in advance) so we should get the miners on time
Yeah the numbers dont add up. The price these units were sold for, everybody was hoping to get them by the date inno promised to ship. That was the advantage, and people were willing to pay the high prices for these units. Now they delay also giving a free a4 miner or a higher hashrate %. Thats a crook move. They should offer a refund. These things just became everybodys worst nightmare. Those extra % or miner does not make up for these shipping delays
This is History repeating itself with Inno.....it's not the first time they have failed to deliver on their promises. Plus the whole "we will give you a free A4+ sounds very scammy to me. Companies are not in the business of giving away free equipment.....I just don't buy it.
Saying they might be scamming us might be a little overboard and will scare pre-order customers who already paid them like me
Misleading us though, hell yeah
This is actually the first time I have ever done business with Innosilicon and I can say the whole experience was disappointing from start to finish (hopefully will recieve my miners and there will be a finish)
If they give me free miners/compensation I will obviously be happy because it cuts some losses and I will actually consider buying from them again in the future knowing that if they do mess up they eventually compensate
If they didn't, then they would have lost pre order customers who trusted them bye bye forever and brace themselves for a storm of negative feedback online that will deter prospect buyers
Therefore, it's a no brainer and makes perfect sense for them to compensate us with miners
Note: I haven't received an email about free a4+ yet
Yeah the numbers dont add up. The price these units were sold for, everybody was hoping to get them by the date inno promised to ship. That was the advantage, and people were willing to pay the high prices for these units. Now they delay also giving a free a4 miner or a higher hashrate %. Thats a crook move. They should offer a refund. These things just became everybodys worst nightmare. Those extra % or miner does not make up for these shipping delays
This is History repeating itself with Inno.....it's not the first time they have failed to deliver on their promises. Plus the whole "we will give you a free A4+ sounds very scammy to me. Companies are not in the business of giving away free equipment.....I just don't buy it.
agree. I am not a promoter of Bitmain, and we all want to have MORE competitors, but Bitmain shipped thier D3 on time - unlike Inno
I too am disappointed with them because of the delay
We paid on time (actually in advance) so we should get the miners on time
they were so in a hurry to compete with Bitmain's D3, that knowingly mislead about shipping dates, i am sure We paid on time (actually in advance) so we should get the miners on time
Yeah the numbers dont add up. The price these units were sold for, everybody was hoping to get them by the date inno promised to ship. That was the advantage, and people were willing to pay the high prices for these units. Now they delay also giving a free a4 miner or a higher hashrate %. Thats a crook move. They should offer a refund. These things just became everybodys worst nightmare. Those extra % or miner does not make up for these shipping delays
This is History repeating itself with Inno.....it's not the first time they have failed to deliver on their promises. Plus the whole "we will give you a free A4+ sounds very scammy to me. Companies are not in the business of giving away free equipment.....I just don't buy it.
To all owners of Inno-Mines: how do you monitor these ?
Yeah the numbers dont add up. The price these units were sold for, everybody was hoping to get them by the date inno promised to ship. That was the advantage, and people were willing to pay the high prices for these units. Now they delay also giving a free a4 miner or a higher hashrate %. Thats a crook move. They should offer a refund. These things just became everybodys worst nightmare. Those extra % or miner does not make up for these shipping delays
Man I hope Innosilicon are reading this thread
This is like a gold mine to them, or should I say crypto mine
I too am disappointed with them because of the delay
We paid on time (actually in advance) so we should get the miners on time
Being compensated is only fair
If Innosilicon take their customer's feedback seriously,
The means of compensation is not as important as it's effect on the bottom line for preorder customers
Compensation could be
- Free Miners
- Credit in Innosilison store
- BTC refund of part of the price
The list can be a lot longer,
but the main point is that Innosilicon need to look at the ROI that people spent 10k based on, and make the compensation something to get them at least near the ROI - but not very near that ROI
This is because difficulty was at 400,000 - 600,000 when we all made those preorders
Now with its moving between 5,000,000 - 10,000,000
so us customers share some of the risk (network difficulty rising at an unprecedented rate ) like were supposed to but not all of it
Plus, satisfied customers are loyal customers and it's far cheaper for Innosilicon to sell to loyal/repeat customers than going out to find new ones
This might be a really silly question, but the Innosilicon A5 DASHmaster is for DigitalCash (DASH) only?.....
Any x11 algo coin can be mined with these....if they ever get released
This might be a really silly question, but the Innosilicon A5 DASHmaster is for DigitalCash (DASH) only?.....
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